Joe Flacco Carried This Offense

[Guest RBates]

The combination blocking scheme was horrible in the first half. You had guys coming free, right at Joe. We still have a lot of work to do on offense. As it stands right now Ray Rice should get signed to a heftier contract then Joe. Sorry. Ray Rice carries this team on offense and it wont be long before all the NFL defenses figure this out. Stop Ray and you stop the Ravens.

[Radinho84]

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The combination blocking scheme was horrible in the first half. You had guys coming free, right at Joe. We still have a lot of work to do on offense. As it stands right now Ray Rice should get signed to a heftier contract then Joe. Sorry. Ray Rice carries this team on offense and it wont be long before all the NFL defenses figure this out. [b]Stop Ray and you stop the Ravens.[/b]
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i don´t think it will be that easy. we have boldin, dickson, pitta, torrey, tandon and lee to play for us. smith gets behind defenders pretty easy and you cannot shut down boldin a whole game with all the other threats we do have now. i agree that rice is one of our best weapons but we could survive without him. having him is very nice though.

flacco had those great throws when the game was on the line. he won this for us. no doubt about that. he is not perfect yet but everybody can see that he is on his way to become a great nil quarterback. i feel very comfortable with him as our future...

[Ed_Reed20]

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The combination blocking scheme was horrible in the first half. You had guys coming free, right at Joe. We still have a lot of work to do on offense. As it stands right now Ray Rice should get signed to a heftier contract then Joe. Sorry. Ray Rice carries this team on offense and [b]it wont be long before all the NFL defenses figure this out[/b]. [b]Stop Ray and you stop the Ravens.[/b]
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It's been over two full seasons and they still haven't figured it out. Plus, we've seen Flacco carry the offense or do enough to help the team numerous times since Rice's emergence.

So your last sentence isn't really true.

[Tiz]

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It's been over two full seasons and they still haven't figured it out. Plus, we've seen Flacco carry the offense or do enough to help the team numerous times since Rice's emergence.

So your last sentence isn't really true.
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Against pitt and st.l the early deep passes opened up things for rice so even if teams prepare to stop rice once they get hit with a deep td the focus shifts.

Defense goes from ” stop ray” to ” oh that ish cannot happen again”

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1318933904' post='827129']

What about the fumble did you forget that. Now i will be the first to Admit he had some nice passes under heavy pressure--- stood in there and delivered, with a fumble and an int and 1- 1 yard rushing touchdown he look like Andy Dalton out there. You do understand that this is why haters hate. You guys must see a totally different game then us. I would say he bounced back a lil in the second half, but to say that he carried the offense??????/ That has always been Ray Rice.
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Love you guys and your Andy Dalton/Kyle Boller comparisons! Hahaha!

First half - oline and Rice struggled mightily = so did Flacco. Second half - changed the blocking scheme, got Rice going, opened up the intermedate routes and then bam, deep balls started connecting. Its all relative and is connected. But you know this having played and being a RB.

[Perfekt]

I honestly feel Flacco played well given what was presented. The game plan that was prepared for offense failed an they still went an executed although not perfect but good enough to get the win. Are we forgetting that Rice went to Cam an told him to change what he was doing which was why the offense picked up late in the game? I'm sure Flacco was doing his best to make the most out of the game plan as well but Wade Phillips had Cams number. The Texans front seven was in Flacco face almost every play yet he still connected with his receivers. Yea Flacco still has stuff to fix but what player doesn't?

[Militant X 1]

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I was very proud of Joe. Even with the constant pressure, he completed the majority of his passes, and he made some fantastic passes downfield. I can't wait until he gets Lee back and continues to build chemistry with Torrey, Boldin and Dickson/Pitta. This offense has the potential to be great, and [b]I think the offense will [u]keep improving [/u]going into the second half of the season[/b].
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fixed that for ya!

i am hoping for the same thing bruh! starting with the Jaguars.

~Mili

[Guest RBates]

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Love you guys and your Andy Dalton/Kyle Boller comparisons! Hahaha!

First half - oline and Rice struggled mightily = so did Flacco. Second half - changed the blocking scheme, got Rice going, opened up the intermedate routes and then bam, deep balls started connecting. Its all relative and is connected. But you know this having played and being a RB.
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I was specifically talking about the first half turnovers. Overall for the game though---------Joe was a little below average. A fumble that leads to seven and a pick are not plays that carry and offense in a defensive game. That's all im saying. What was impressive, was how he hung in the pocket, took the shot, and delivered bombs. I give credit where credit is due. Just need to see him have second half's like that more often.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1318937112' post='827140']

It's been over two full seasons and they still haven't figured it out. Plus, we've seen Flacco carry the offense or do enough to help the team numerous times since Rice's emergence.

So your last sentence isn't really true.
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Two full seasons? So when we had Todd Heap and Derrick Mason that was not enough to warrant a little respect in the passing game. So even then, it was just Rice and Flacco? Leading into this game Ray Rice lead the team in rushing and probably receiving yards. So yeah stop him you stop the Ravens. (So true.)

[RivenHale]

He led the team in rushing and receiving yards because [i]good freakin' luck stopping Ray Rice[/i].

[AsianRice]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1318971453' post='827703']
Two full seasons? So when we had Todd Heap and Derrick Mason that was not enough to warrant a little respect in the passing game. So even then, it was just Rice and Flacco? Leading into this game Ray Rice lead the team in rushing and probably receiving yards. So yeah stop him you stop the Ravens. (So true.)
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Don't look too far, just look at the last game against Houston. Houston stopped Rice almost 3 quarters and the only yardage Rice had was recieving. How do you stop Rice from recieving when you have a LB on him? or put a CB on him and Rice will toy him from the backfield.

Ok, Flacco made 300yrds when he was pressured all night; he was poised and made throws when he knew he will get hit from both sides.

Here is your solution to stop Rice: Stack on the line of scrimmage, put extra men on Rice on recieving scheme, and assign OLBs, SS, and LBs to eyehawk Rice. I think that will shut down Rice, BUT Joe will bomb away with Torrey when you stack too many in the middle, abuse the middle and sidelines with Boldin attack, and deepball in the middle to Dickson. Joe will do that all night if you focus 100% on Rice. Joe will gladly take humongous stats when you go mad on stopping RIce.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1318971203' post='827694']
I was specifically talking about the first half turnovers.  Overall for the game though---------Joe was a little below average.  A fumble that leads to seven and a pick are not plays that carry and offense in a defensive game.  That's all im saying.  What was impressive, was how he hung in the pocket, took the shot, and delivered bombs.  I give credit where credit is due.  Just need to see him have second half's like that more often.
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No, I understand...you're going to look for the negatives and if there happen to be a positive or two, maybe you'll mention them too . The bottom line is (thanks Ray) that the ENTIRE offense struggled the first half. Once those adjustments were made, we started to get things going and still mustered together a 30 burger (almost).

[Guest RBates]

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No, I understand...you're going to look for the negatives and if there happen to be a positive or two, maybe you'll mention them too [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png[/img]. The bottom line is (thanks Ray) that the ENTIRE offense struggled the first half. Once those adjustments were made, we started to get things going and still mustered together a 30 burger (almost).
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Yeah, i gotta admit im happy with all these points though.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1318990493' post='827999']
Yeah, i gotta admit im happy with all these points though.
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I think the biggest thing to take away from that game was ADJUSTMENT and the fact that they occurred. Once they were made, it was like night and day. Still didn't punch some red zone drives in for 7, but imagine if we had 2 or 3 of those (not greedy and asking for all) drives go for 7. We'd be looking at 37 or 41 to 14.

[Guest RBates]

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I think the biggest thing to take away from that game was ADJUSTMENT and the fact that they occurred. Once they were made, it was like night and day. Still didn't punch some red zone drives in for 7, but imagine if we had 2 or 3 of those (not greedy and asking for all) drives go for 7. We'd be looking at 37 or 41 to 14.
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What was that horrid combination blocking scheme that we were running in the first half? Guys had a free run at Joe. Totally unblocked! We have a lot of work to do on offense. I can't wait until Ben Grubbs gets back.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1318990983' post='828008']
What was that horrid combination blocking scheme that we were running in the first half? Guys had a free run at Joe.  Totally unblocked! We have a lot of work to do on offense. I can't wait until Ben Grubbs gets back.
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Yeah, I was perplexed and couldn't get over it!! It was never ending and the dude was running for his life. Grubbs back will make a huge difference (I hope).

[Crabcakes&Football]

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The combination blocking scheme was horrible in the first half. You had guys coming free, right at Joe. We still have a lot of work to do on offense. As it stands right now Ray Rice should get signed to a heftier contract then Joe. Sorry. Ray Rice carries this team on offense and it wont be long before all the NFL defenses figure this out. Stop Ray and you stop the Ravens.
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If they haven't figured that out yet, they never will. Joe can win games when the run game stalls or the defense, he has before. Stop Ray and you leave yourself open to getting burned by Joe.

[Greatness]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1318857033' post='826122']
Flacco completed 61% of his throws including some downfield throws. Our offense is explosive because of how agressive Flacco is, and the opportunities he takes downfield. He makes the wr's around him better, and he is making strides and improving every game. He has even started to extend plays and help his offensive line. Mistakes are part of the game. Brady threw 2 interceptions this week. It is not realistic to think that Flacco will go an entire game without any mistakes. But how he bounces back from the mistakes is key. And he continued to make good throws and move the chains.

Now the bad, Flacco was too passive in the red zone, but Flacco understands the defense that he has behind him. He doesn't need to force throws when he has a great defense behind him. So as long as he gets points out of those red zone possessions then it is a success. We will beat a lot of teams if we put up 30 points a game.
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Finally! Someone gets it! Roger Godell has told people putting up an offensive explosion is the only way to win in this league, so everyone gripes when we don't '07 Patriots every team we play. We do need to fix our redzone offense, though, but if I'm going to put up 2 TD's 5 field Goals and only 1 defensive TD? Yeah, I'll take that every game on my way to Indy to deal with the NFC champions.

[lowrider]

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Finally! Someone gets it! Roger Godell has told people putting up an offensive explosion is the only way to win in this league, so everyone gripes when we don't '07 Patriots every team we play. We do need to fix our redzone offense, though, but if I'm going to put up 2 TD's 5 field Goals and only 1 defensive TD? Yeah, I'll take that every game on my way to Indy to deal with the NFC champions.
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But think about it. How many teams can beat us if our offense puts up 29 points a game? There is a handfull. And our team lost the turnover battle and we still won by 15. How often is that going to happen, where our defense doesn't get any turnovers? What that says to me is that our team still has room for improvement, which is a scary thought. We can be critical over Flacco because he didn't throw any td passes and made a few mistakes, but he put up points and makes the big play when we need him too.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Crabcakes&Football' timestamp='1319001791' post='828111']

If they haven't figured that out yet, they never will. Joe can win games when the run game stalls or the defense, he has before. Stop Ray and you leave yourself open to getting burned by Joe.
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Sure Joe will be fine i saw alot of improvement in the Houston game. Our major concern is the lack of red-zone production right now. We have to start blowing teams of the line of scrimmage.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1318972434' post='827731']
Don't look too far, just look at the last game against Houston. Houston stopped Rice almost 3 quarters and the only yardage Rice had was recieving. How do you stop Rice from recieving when you have a LB on him? or put a CB on him and Rice will toy him from the backfield.

Ok, Flacco made 300yrds when he was pressured all night; he was poised and made throws when he knew he will get hit from both sides.

Here is your solution to stop Rice: Stack on the line of scrimmage, put extra men on Rice on recieving scheme, and assign OLBs, SS, and LBs to eyehawk Rice. I think that will shut down Rice, BUT Joe will bomb away with Torrey when you stack too many in the middle, abuse the middle and sidelines with Boldin attack, and deepball in the middle to Dickson. Joe will do that all night if you focus 100% on Rice. Joe will gladly take humongous stats when you go mad on stopping RIce.
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If they stopped the run, Rice may them pay in the passing game. Im not going to put on here how to stop our back, but defensive coordinators have to already know that you cant cover him with a backer. Joe is getting alot of respect in the deep game as well. I expected this transition on offense, just thought it would come together a little sooner.

[thrash5]

GO JOE!!!!!!!!