Will Lee Evans Ever Be 100% (Or Even Play?)

[darklight1216]

[quote name='neoi78' timestamp='1318574604' post='822779']
Im really suprised by some of our fans responses. Some of you have obviously never had ankle or leg injurys. They hurt to walk on, much less run full speed, sprinting down the sideline of a football field awaiting a defender to tackle you. Sprain your ankle, and I'd like to see you run full speed within 30 days! I used to skateboard, so I wrecked my ankle on a consistant basis. Its hard to rebound from in short time
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Interesting perspective... I've never sprained my ankle, but I've known people who have and some of them returned to their sport (basketball) fairly quickly; maybe some people are thinking of incidents like that.


[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1318557420' post='822694']
Skilled position players depend on their ankles and hamstrings a little more than the big fellas up front.
Can't help but wonder why these ankle injuries are lagging a little longer with l.evans and j.smith. 3 and 4 weeks for ankles, some ppl return faster on mcl acl sprains.
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Smith has a high ankle sprain. That one always takes a really long time to come back from. Four weeks is closer to the minimum amount of time for recovery from what I understand.

I don't really know what's going on with Evans, though.

[Twistidfunk]

From what I have seen watching football over the years High Ankle Sprains can take 6-8 weeks. Jimmy sounds close so he falls right in that time frame. My guess is probably Arizona.

Lee, I am not so sure what is up with his ankle. I bet he could probably play like he did in Tennessee but he is not 100% so why risk it. I am thinking Arizona game for him also but definitely in time for Pittsburgh. His time will come and when it does, our offense will look very different

[jdynamite]

[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1318574925' post='822782']
its called depth.. We got some
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What does depth have to do with speaking about players recovery rate from different injuries such as mcl, acl sprains versus ankle injuries.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='neoi78' timestamp='1318574604' post='822779']
Im really suprised by some of our fans responses. Some of you have obviously never had ankle or leg injurys. They hurt to walk on, much less run full speed, sprinting down the sideline of a football field awaiting a defender to tackle you. Sprain your ankle, and I'd like to see you run full speed within 30 days! I used to skateboard, so I wrecked my ankle on a consistant basis. Its hard to rebound from in short time
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My comments aren't really critical of them for having ankle injuries that last this long, because I have watched the NFL and NBA long enough to see players like Deion Sanders or Shaq be greatly affect by "turf toe" and other injuries that may seem minor to a viewer.
As for people suffering ankle injuries, believe me I have suffered plenty of ankle injuries playing pick-up basketball on concrete courts, it happens, I mean even had my left kneecap broken when I was hit by a drunk driver, but with world class training staffs and doctors to help with rehab, seems a little ugh.....
Even when I played highschool football, ( which in no way is comparable to the NFL) we had ankle, knee injuries all we could afford to do is wrap it up ,soak in episom salt baths, ice it down, rub bengay joint cream on it lol

[Tank 92]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1318588533' post='822815']
[i][b]Interesting perspective... I've never sprained my ankle, but I've known people who have and some of them returned to their sport (basketball) fairly quickly; maybe some people are thinking of incidents like that.[/b][/i]






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It depends on the severity of the sprain. When I sprained mine, the ortho surgeon said it would have been better if I had broken the bone. A lot of connective tissue in there that bears a lot of load. If you think about it, the ankle joint has to swivel in all directions, a knee just pivots back and forth. Severe ankle injuries are bad news.

[FerrariFan87]

Do we know Evans has a "sprain"? I don't trust anything Harbs or the Ravens have to say about player injuries lol.

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1318620260' post='823088']
Do we know Evans has a "sprain"? I don't trust anything Harbs or the Ravens have to say about player injuries lol.
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lol! that's a good point. I'm starting to doubt his return all together.

[H8R]

I'm just wondering how much comes from pain tolerance. I really do. I walked with a broken hip, pelvis and torn spleen..... then again, I'm a MACHINE JERK. HAHAH

[CapoRocky]

I posted on a similar thread that I think that he will be back by Nov. 6th. I don't see him running at full speed before then. It's always suspicious when a team dumps a player that has been a starter since he was drafted. Stallworth and Housh didn't live up to the hype last year and it's highly probable that Evans will be back to catch a few passes this year. The best case would be a game winning catch to beat the Steelers again in the hillbilly ketchup palace.

[pick6raven]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1318447753' post='821731']

Maybe he shouldnt have overthrown Torrey in the Jets game
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yeah and several of the deep balls thrown torreys way in st. louis were overthrown...including the second TD he just made a great catch.. hate to be negative here but for all the talk about what a great cannon flacco has hes only completed 4 out of over 20 attempted passes 20+ yards this season. that honestly worries me. please tell me if im being foolish, or maybe hes just so rusty throwing it deep after throwing it 10 yards to mason the past three years(oh!)

[Tank 92]

[quote name='pick6raven' timestamp='1318631184' post='823258']
yeah and several of the deep balls thrown torreys way in st. louis were overthrown...including the second TD he just made a great catch.. hate to be negative here but for all the talk about what a great cannon flacco has hes only completed 4 out of over 20 attempted passes 20+ yards this season. that honestly worries me. [i][b]please tell me if im being foolish,[/b][/i] or maybe hes just so rusty throwing it deep after throwing it 10 yards to mason the past three years(oh!)
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You are being foolish.

It's a team effort. Given time and reps they will click.

The ball to Torrey in the jets game was thrown perfectly. Revis was grabbing all over him and slowed his route. Should have been a PI call(or at least illegal contact), but it seems that Revis gets away with more than most because of his reputation as the best.

[wizard1]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1318529453' post='822435']

Fine. Then who would you rather have quarterbacking the Ravens?
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David Garrard until we can develope Taylor more--At least he doesn't fold up under pressure. I'm going to shut up on Flacco and see how things go with Houston. If he plays like I expect I'm calling out the Maryland National Guard Sunday Night or at least call for a mutiny!

[BloodRaven]

When he's healthy he'll also need to find a way to run faster, since Flacco doesn't overthrow.

[wizard1]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1318511486' post='822272']

I hope that one day the argument will evolve into pudding.
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Is that a Flacco aka? I like that-Puddin Joe has to go-you have to admit it has flair as well as some merit! lol

[wizard1]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1318660828' post='823458']
When he's healthy he'll also need to find a way to run faster, since Flacco doesn't overthrow.
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Um since when does Flacco not overthrow-he's only completed 49.9 % of his passes?

[wizard1]

[quote name='jt3751' timestamp='1318635023' post='823309']

You are being foolish.

It's a team effort. Given time and reps they will click.

The ball to Torrey in the jets game was thrown perfectly. Revis was grabbing all over him and slowed his route. Should have been a PI call(or at least illegal contact), but it seems that Revis gets away with more than most because of his reputation as the best.
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you are not being foolish. Flacco is a real problem. Everyone says give him time-how much time does he need exactly? Since the average career of an NFL QB is 4.44 years we don't have much time left? Either he gets it done or we have to find someone who will. This is turning into another Boller type Twilight Zone.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1318707446' post='823648']
you are not being foolish. Flacco is a real problem. Everyone says give him time-how much time does he need exactly? Since the average career of an NFL QB is 4.44 years we don't have much time left? Either he gets it done or we have to find someone who will. This is turning into another Boller type Twilight Zone.
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The average career of an NFL QB actually has no merit. It factors in all those lovely one yr people who can't produce. Joe has never missed a start. I don't think he's even missed a snap. I mean, you really think he's done playing around game 7 this season? Get real. As for time, he's improved every single season. Every single one. After only 4 games you want to try to claim that this season is different? Your argument might carry more weight if we were sitting at week 10, 11, 12 or so and he had been inconsistent throughout the season. Right now, it just makes you look silly.

As for Evans, he looked good until that horse collar tackle so I keep wondering if that is what either injured the other ankle or aggravated the existing injury. (as it's hard to get a handle on whether or not it is the same ankle). I think right now they are more playing it safe with him. I figure him to be back for the Steelers game if not the week before.

[wizard1]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1318708908' post='823660']

The average career of an NFL QB actually has no merit. It factors in all those lovely one yr people who can't produce. Joe has never missed a start. I don't think he's even missed a snap. I mean, you really think he's done playing around game 7 this season? Get real. As for time, he's improved every single season. Every single one. After only 4 games you want to try to claim that this season is different? Your argument might carry more weight if we were sitting at week 10, 11, 12 or so and he had been inconsistent throughout the season. Right now, it just makes you look silly.

As for Evans, he looked good until that horse collar tackle so I keep wondering if that is what either injured the other ankle or aggravated the existing injury. (as it's hard to get a handle on whether or not it is the same ankle). I think right now they are more playing it safe with him. I figure him to be back for the Steelers game if not the week before.
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Thanks for your assessment of me but I am not basing my observations on whether I might look silly. Just stating what I believe to be facts. It is undeniable tha Flacco is an average quarterback. He is surrounded by one of the most amazing defenses ever. It is rare ( if ever) that Falcco stands up at the worst of times and shoulders our team and says come on guys I'll get you there. It is much more likely that Joe will make the big mistake when he is under pressure and throw an interception or make a fumble. Had it not been for our defense we would have surely lost the Jets game based on Joes mistakes. and tho we blew out the steelers it wasn't because of Joe it was because of our defense. and well St. Louis?? Everybody is beating St.Louis these days. For me the defining moment in Joes career is the Houston game and it's time for him to suit up and stop saying "he's pretty damn good" and show it!

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1318710141' post='823665']
Thanks for your assessment of me but I am not basing my observations on whether I might look silly. Just stating what I believe to be facts. It is undeniable tha Flacco is an average quarterback. He is surrounded by one of the most amazing defenses ever. It is rare ( if ever) that Falcco stands up at the worst of times and shoulders our team and says come on guys I'll get you there. It is much more likely that Joe will make the big mistake when he is under pressure and throw an interception or make a fumble. Had it not been for our defense we would have surely lost the Jets game based on Joes mistakes. and tho we blew out the steelers it wasn't because of Joe it was because of our defense. and well St. Louis?? Everybody is beating St.Louis these days. For me the defining moment in Joes career is the Houston game and it's time for him to suit up and stop saying "he's pretty damn good" and show it!
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I dont know why you are trying to knock Joe when he had a good game in Pit. He was under a lot of pressure that game because of the media, saying he needed this win because we havent beat the Steelers when Ben is playing.

As far as completion ratio goes, his career % is 60.9. Which puts him at 24th [b]of all time[/b]. Right above Matt Ryan (60.8)
[url="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_cmp_perc_career.htm"]http://www.pro-footb...perc_career.htm[/url]

Anyways, on topic. Didn't Evans injure his other foot this time and not the one he injured last year?

[BmoreRavens732]

This wizard guy can't be 4real? I've seen haters but DAM!!! Go find a new team man flacco is our QB now and the FUTURE...I'm not knocking you or your opinions but this is the hardest I've ever seen some1 come at him or any other player....Joe has his flaws but way more upside then you insist man. Anyway I think lee and Jimmy will come back next game

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1318643443' post='823397']
[b]David Garrard [/b]until we can develope Taylor more--At least he doesn't fold up under pressure. I'm going to shut up on Flacco and see how things go with Houston. [u][b]If he plays like I expect [/b][/u]I'm calling out the Maryland National Guard Sunday Night or at least call for a mutiny!
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stop! just stop bruh! smh!

Flacco's gameplay pisses me off at times as well but he is our QB. no need to call for a mutiny or uprising to get rid of him. like you...i will definitely be watching for some [u][b]"key"[/b][/u] things from Flacco myself in reference to his gameplay in that game. so just chill! lay low and watch the game tomorrow and let's see how he does (along with the entire team) after being off and well rested!

~Mili

[PurpleCorsair]

David Garrard? What is this I don't even....

[PeRK82]

[quote name='neoi78' timestamp='1318574604' post='822779']
Im really suprised by some of our fans responses. Some of you have obviously never had ankle or leg injurys. They hurt to walk on, much less run full speed, sprinting down the sideline of a football field awaiting a defender to tackle you. Sprain your ankle, and I'd like to see you run full speed within 30 days! [b]I used to skateboard, so I wrecked my ankle on a consistant basis.[/b] Its hard to rebound from in short time
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Thats funny you say that. I skated too. And didnt realize i broke my ankle 10 yrs after the fact. I found out you could still walk on a broken ankle and trust me , looking back , it was broken. People over 50 yds away heard the POP. But i understand why people are wondering why its taking so long for him to heal and honestly , i am too. Its been over a month. I think of it this way. He has the best doctors, he has had time and he should have a really high metabolism. He honestly should be almost fully healed by now or atleast 90%. A month is plenty of time to heal for a sprain ankle. Just look at Stallworth , last year. He broke his foot or ankle and he was back in a little over 2 months.


On a side note = I do have good memories from skateboarding, but i have nothing to show for it except bad Knees and ankles now.