Bye Week Adjustments

[The Raven]

It's the bye week, what adjustments do you think the team should make during the bye week?

I want to see a change in the blocking scheme. The zone blocking scheme is kind of a "boom-or-bust" scheme. It's a big gain for the offense, or it's a gain of nothing or even a loss, especially against good defenses like the Jets. The blocking scheme has hindered the ability of our OL.

I also want to see Laquan Williams and/or Torrey Smith get looks at returners. They're fast and explosive and I think they could be quality returners.

what do you think?

[Reed the Raven]

Consistent offensive gameplan, mixing up the run and the pass more instead of doing one more than the other.

[ravensfan2424]

Best idea would be to put Laquan as our PR and put Mccann at KR until Reed returns. I would also like to see Jimmy, Ellerbe, and Carr work back into the system with the help of the defense that has already been playing. The biggest thing would have to be getting the MAIN offensive line (Mckinney-Grubbs-Birk-Yanda-Oher) more time to work together.

[Alexir]

Torrey needs to focus on his routes and getting chemistry with Joe. McCann can focus on PR/KR.

The best thing about the bye is that we should have 4 guys back from injury in Grubbs, J-Smitty, Lee Evans and Carr.

[K-Dog]

Rest, relax, clear your minds. Get healthy. After that figure out how to get Joe on track and keep him there.

[colljb9]

absolutely nothing defensively besides working in our hurt guys, the rotation being used should have most of our defense relatively fresh even after 4 games. Offensively i want see flacco work on his timing. A lot of his inaccuracies against the Jets were because he was throwing into very tight windows, but even with perfect coverage he could have realistically had two touchdown passes to torrey smith potentially. Work on the timing, incorporate our tight ends more into the gameplan, and just let the offense fly

[Lovely sir]

idk if this would be an adjustment but flacco getting to know his receivers better (timing) is what i want. i disagree with the zone blocking being thrown out, if we can get it to the execution that the texans run it, Ray Rice would thrive even more. that'll probably take more than two weeks tho. Defensively, just a couple of schemes for those west-coast types of QB's.

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='Lovely sir' timestamp='1317788398' post='816562']
idk if this would be an adjustment but flacco getting to know his receivers better (timing) is what i want. i disagree with the zone blocking being thrown out, if we can get it to the execution that the texans run it, Ray Rice would thrive even more. that'll probably take more than two weeks tho. Defensively, just a couple of schemes for those west-coast types of QB's.
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I agree, the zone blocking has worked greatly and it's still brand new to us. Ray Rice is running much better than he was last year, it's why we beat the Steelers the way we did. Will be great for everyone to learn more of their playbooks. Because the schemes are new for everyone on both sides of the ball.

[Alexir]

Defense should of had the week off and offense should of put in work....

However, that would cause some lockerroom tension but seriously, the defense has done amazing this year so far.

[redrum52]

Bench Flacco, fire Cam and quit the 3 man rush... my bad, new season. GET HEALTHY. Its hard for me to say but I trust all our coaches right now and have a feeling Cam was just trying out a few tweaks and trying to get looks in case we play them again while also trying to build chemistry and rhythm among the players. Most important for the bye would be more effective 2nd half game plan though I cant complain with having large leads which can contribute to why we slowed down as well. Also just coming back with everyone back in place. Can't wait to see Jimmy take the field and Lee and Torrey torching secondaries.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1317794218' post='816605']
Defense should of had the week off and [b]offense should of put in work....[/b]

However, that would cause some lockerroom tension but seriously, the defense has done amazing this year so far.
[/quote]

a lot of work!!

seriously though...i also want the Ravens to rest and heal up. enjoy their time off with their families and then come back focused on getting that 4th win. offensively? maaaan! let me just say, i am looking for some serious improvements after the bye and i will leave it at that for now.

~Mili

[BmoreLAT52]

Offensive game plan changes. Again. cam Cameron is too hot or old. Stop running Boldin on deep routes, let him run Masons out and crossing routes, more two TE sets, and Please, please adapt to what the opposing defense is doing. We should do better in the second half, not worse.

[FerrariFan87]

I'd like to see Cam call more quick slants, bubble screens, and regular RB or TE screens, especially when facing teams with a really good pass rush. Not only will it allow Joe to get into a rhythm with his receivers, but we have the playmakers that will make a big play and give the whole offense confidence and slow down the pass rush coming at Joe, opening up deeper pass plays later.

[RavensFan2110]

They need to fix up their offense. They need a new game plan/strategy.
This will also be a great time to experiment a bit with different strategies.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

Haha the Irony here is hilarious. I have stated my opinion about Cam and his play calling much to the lament of people on these boards, saying that I needed to see more.

I loved the Jets game and how cam called it lol. I like the fact that we went after their secondary and showed that we were unafraid and that we were going to attack them in all phases, and even make Revis earn his pay that day. Now were we getting a little too pass heavy in the first and run heavy in the second yeah probably, but we were aggressive and I loved it. It did not necessarily work well this time but a few games like that, like lets say against the Texans and Joe will get to 4,000 by week 15. I though in the end it all balanced out.

I also wonder a lot of people were calling for Cam to be more aggressive (myself included) but then in the Jets game you are saying run more !! Well which is it, do you want to be aggressive the whole game or do you want to play it cagey (rethink steeler's playoff loss)? I want them to be going for broke no matter what (until we get to the superbowl and are beating the packers by 20 with 5 left in the game). this whole start to run it out midway through the 3rd quarter is just retarded and can not believe some people were calling for that. Are you insane we finally have the ability to make people pay through the air and you want to run the ball. I think it is important to have balance and all but it has been said for years that when Baltimore gets an offense it is going to be scary. If we can combine a passing attack that can rival that of the Saints, Packer's, Charger's and so on with our defense there is not a team in the league that can beat us heads up..

I would love to see the O work on more trips formations, with Lee on one side and Reed/Doss/LaQuan along with boldin and Torrey. I think if we can establish those guys as all people who can make you pay on the back end then Defense's wont be able to key on personnel as much when putting game plans together. I would also like to see just a better mixture of formations, I would love the trips but you have to keep them off balance. Run Trips, then a 2 TE set, then a 3 wr and RB, etc etc.... Just become unpredictable.

joe and his receiver's need to develop chemistry in a huge way, he also need to acquaint himself with both of his deep threats so there will be less overthrows and missed opportunities.

As for the blocking scheme, I have a feeling the reason we went to it was because of the inexperience of the Oline as a whole and the lack of knowledge of protections calls, sight adjustments, audible's and so on, so you could just ask them to dominate a gap and be done with it. I would like to see more hat on a hat but lets not rule out the zone blocking either, again balance and unpredictability.

So I guess what I am saying is Balanced Aggressiveness if that is even a phrase, and if it is not it should be and you heard it here first.

[757RavensFan]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1317834437' post='816855']
I'd like to see Cam call more quick slants, bubble screens, and regular RB or [b]TE screens[/b], especially when facing teams with a really good pass rush. Not only will it allow Joe to get into a rhythm with his receivers, but we have the playmakers that will make a big play and give the whole offense confidence and slow down the pass rush coming at Joe, opening up deeper pass plays later.
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Loved the TE screen when they sent Rice in motion out to the right and then the screen pass to Pitta on the left. It was a thing of beauty.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1317838279' post='816902']
Haha the Irony here is hilarious. I have stated my opinion about Cam and his play calling much to the lament of people on these boards, saying that I needed to see more.

I loved the Jets game and how cam called it lol. I like the fact that we went after their secondary and showed that we were unafraid and that we were going to attack them in all phases, and even make Revis earn his pay that day. Now were we getting a little too pass heavy in the first and run heavy in the second yeah probably, but we were aggressive and I loved it. It did not necessarily work well this time but a few games like that, like lets say against the Texans and Joe will get to 4,000 by week 15. I though in the end it all balanced out.

I also wonder a lot of people were calling for Cam to be more aggressive (myself included) but then in the Jets game you are saying run more !! Well which is it, do you want to be aggressive the whole game or do you want to play it cagey (rethink steeler's playoff loss)? I want them to be going for broke no matter what (until we get to the superbowl and are beating the packers by 20 with 5 left in the game). this whole start to run it out midway through the 3rd quarter is just retarded and can not believe some people were calling for that. Are you insane [b]we finally have the ability to make people pay through the air [/b]and you want to run the ball. I think it is important to have balance and all but it has been said for years that when Baltimore gets an offense it is going to be scary. If we can combine a passing attack that can rival that of the Saints, Packer's, Charger's and so on with our defense there is not a team in the league that can beat us heads up..

I would love to see the O work on more trips formations, with Lee on one side and Reed/Doss/LaQuan along with boldin and Torrey. I think if we can establish those guys as all people who can make you pay on the back end then Defense's wont be able to key on personnel as much when putting game plans together. I would also like to see just a better mixture of formations, I would love the trips but you have to keep them off balance. Run Trips, then a 2 TE set, then a 3 wr and RB, etc etc.... Just become unpredictable.

joe and his receiver's need to develop chemistry in a huge way, he also need to acquaint himself with both of his deep threats so there will be less overthrows and missed opportunities.

As for the blocking scheme, I have a feeling the reason we went to it was because of the inexperience of the Oline as a whole and the lack of knowledge of protections calls, sight adjustments, audible's and so on, so you could just ask them to dominate a gap and be done with it. I would like to see more hat on a hat but lets not rule out the zone blocking either, again balance and unpredictability.

So I guess what I am saying is Balanced Aggressiveness if that is even a phrase, and if it is not it should be and you heard it here first.
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not just yet imo.

~Mili

[Mick0311]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1317838279' post='816902']
Haha the Irony here is hilarious. I have stated my opinion about Cam and his play calling much to the lament of people on these boards, saying that I needed to see more.

I loved the Jets game and how cam called it lol. I like the fact that we went after their secondary and showed that we were unafraid and that we were going to attack them in all phases, and even make Revis earn his pay that day. Now were we getting a little too pass heavy in the first and run heavy in the second yeah probably, but we were aggressive and I loved it. It did not necessarily work well this time but a few games like that, like lets say against the Texans and Joe will get to 4,000 by week 15. I though in the end it all balanced out.

I also wonder a lot of people were calling for Cam to be more aggressive (myself included) [b]but then in the Jets game you are saying run more !! Well which is it, do you want to be aggressive the whole game or do you want to play it cagey (rethink steeler's playoff loss)?[/b] I want them to be going for broke no matter what (until we get to the superbowl and are beating the packers by 20 with 5 left in the game). this whole start to run it out midway through the 3rd quarter is just retarded and can not believe some people were calling for that. Are you insane we finally have the ability to make people pay through the air and you want to run the ball. I think it is important to have balance and all but it has been said for years that when Baltimore gets an offense it is going to be scary. If we can combine a passing attack that can rival that of the Saints, Packer's, Charger's and so on with our defense there is not a team in the league that can beat us heads up..

I would love to see the O work on more trips formations, with Lee on one side and Reed/Doss/LaQuan along with boldin and Torrey. I think if we can establish those guys as all people who can make you pay on the back end then Defense's wont be able to key on personnel as much when putting game plans together. I would also like to see just a better mixture of formations, I would love the trips but you have to keep them off balance. Run Trips, then a 2 TE set, then a 3 wr and RB, etc etc.... Just become unpredictable.

joe and his receiver's need to develop chemistry in a huge way, he also need to acquaint himself with both of his deep threats so there will be less overthrows and missed opportunities.

As for the blocking scheme, I have a feeling the reason we went to it was because of the inexperience of the Oline as a whole and the lack of knowledge of protections calls, sight adjustments, audible's and so on, so you could just ask them to dominate a gap and be done with it. I would like to see more hat on a hat but lets not rule out the zone blocking either, again balance and unpredictability.

So I guess what I am saying is Balanced Aggressiveness if that is even a phrase, and if it is not it should be and you heard it here first.
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Not even remotely close to the same thing. I want him to make the right calls, especially the obvious one. I think he has done much better this year. In the Jets game, there was zero, and I mean ZERO, indication that the Jets offense was going to mount a comeback. The only way teams in their situation come back is if you allow them to with turnovers. Ask the Cowboys, they know exactly what I am talking about. So, what does Cam do? He continues to allow an obviously struggling QB to throw the ball repeatedly. Not a little mixing of both, but there were two drives that were 3 passes, punt. That is ridiculous. The playoff game last year was entirely different. The Steelers had the ability to come back on their own with a few good plays. The Jets couldn't have come back if their lives depended on it. The only way was if we helped them, which Joe tried to do twice in the game up to that point. So, throw it more!!! LMAO. NO!

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='Mick0311' timestamp='1317845044' post='816988']


Not even remotely close to the same thing. I want him to make the right calls, especially the obvious one. I think he has done much better this year. In the Jets game, there was zero, and I mean ZERO, indication that the Jets offense was going to mount a comeback. The only way teams in their situation come back is if you allow them to with turnovers. Ask the Cowboys, they know exactly what I am talking about. So, what does Cam do? He continues to allow an obviously struggling QB to throw the ball repeatedly. Not a little mixing of both, but there were two drives that were 3 passes, punt. That is ridiculous. The playoff game last year was entirely different. The Steelers had the ability to come back on their own with a few good plays. The Jets couldn't have come back if their lives depended on it. The only way was if we helped them, which Joe tried to do twice in the game up to that point. So, throw it more!!! LMAO. NO!
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Everything you just said could have been said about the Steeler's game, and actually a lot of people were saying their offense could not score on our defense. Shows what those people knew right?? Where as had we kept the momentum and called plays that made sense we would have gone up by at least another touch instead of forgetting about screens and draws that were working so well that game.

It seems to work for GB when they pass all over the place, and to be honest when healthy I like our receiver's more. If you dont want us to be a passing offense then fine , but you wont be laughing when we are sitting on the couch watching another team in the Superbowl. When was the last time a primarily running team won the superbowl. When was the last time that a team that did not play aggressive for 4 quarters win the SB. There really hasnt been one lately.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1317844853' post='816986']

not just yet imo.

~Mili
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Really ? Even after teh bye when we get evans back you dont think evans, boldin, and torrey could give people fits. Maybe I am just optimistic but 2 very fast guys and a great YAC guy I think could be very potent.

[colljb9]

Cameron needs to sit down for 24 hours and watch the pariots and how they use their right ends. After that he needs to look at the ravens and go wow, we have 2 very good tight ends as well and we have 2 wide receivers with great speed and a great underneath wide receiver as well. Then he'll go, wow we have a top 10 offensive line and perhaps the best duel threat running back in the NFL. Then he needs to sit back and ask himself how to devise a gameplan to efficiently and effectively get these playmakers the ball

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='colljb9' timestamp='1317847241' post='817006']
Cameron needs to sit down for 24 hours and watch the pariots and how they use their right ends. After that he needs to look at the ravens and go wow, we have 2 very good tight ends as well and we have 2 wide receivers with great speed and a great underneath wide receiver as well. Then he'll go, wow we have a top 10 offensive line and perhaps the best duel threat running back in the NFL. Then he needs to sit back and ask himself how to devise a gameplan to efficiently and effectively get these playmakers the ball
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That would be fine if they had the talent at receivers that we did, but if we are putting our best players on the field then by virtue we should run more spread sets than they do because I dont think they have a single receiver that is better than any of ours.

[The Raven]

I don't think zone blocking has to go, but it's working very inconsistently. It killed the Steelers, but the Jets murdered our running game for the most part. I'd have to rewatch the game to be positive, but it looked like we stopped running all those zone plays, and started running man blocking schemes and Iso plays in the 4th quarter. And what do ya know, we could run the ball.

Screens should be implemented a lot more. With an athletic offensive line and a great RB, screens should be run a lot more than they currently are. The TE screens are great as well. I'd like to point out though, Cam called a WR screen to Torrey, but Boldin missed his block.

[slugz1]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1317834437' post='816855']
I'd like to see Cam call more quick slants, bubble screens, and regular RB or TE screens, especially when facing teams with a really good pass rush. Not only will it allow Joe to get into a rhythm with his receivers, but we have the playmakers that will make a big play and give the whole offense confidence and slow down the pass rush coming at Joe, opening up deeper pass plays later.
[/quote]
word....and a lil more boldin screens too. the tight end screens will kill D's. the adjustment we nee to make is when we get up by 24 or so we need to run here and there then just dink and dunk with screens all over the place and short passes then when they defend the short pass hit them deep.

[Kevin Mullins]

There is a multitude of things that should be worked on during the break, obviously coinciding with the return to health of our team.

1. Cam needs to watch the Packers, Patriots, and Saints, and realize he has a gunslinger, and a multitude of athletic targets that can do special things and attempt to mimic their utilization.
-------------a. The Ravens possess two very skilled tight ends like the Patriots, and the Packers. The Ravens offense should be utilizing Dickson's speed and Pitta's certain hands to move sticks.
-------------b. For the first time in Raven history, the WR position is well filled with speed. We can mimic the Saints by utilizing Evans as our Meachem, Boldin as our Colston, and Torrey as our Henderson. David Reed can be Lance Moore. Boom shakalakah
-------------c. I feel we are designed to stretch the field and get deeper into routes, especially as our line builds a relationship. Let's stop running 7 and in's, and instead stretch them to 12's. Let's force corners to make decisions.

2. Our defense is AMAZING!

However, I want to see more out of Kindle as the season progresses because I still believe he can be a dynamic pass rusher. Otherwise, I just want Jimmy to get Healthy and get some time at nickel over the next few games so that he can be apart of a 3 man rotation when we play the Patriots in the AFC championship game.


Lastly, I want to see our special teams get creative, we have a few dynamic guys, and we can utilize their speed to score some spoints.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Kevin Mullins' timestamp='1317879187' post='817246']
There is a multitude of things that should be worked on during the break, obviously coinciding with the return to health of our team.

1. Cam needs to watch the Packers, Patriots, and Saints, and realize he has a gunslinger, and a multitude of athletic targets that can do special things and attempt to mimic their utilization.
-------------a. The Ravens possess two very skilled tight ends like the Patriots, and the Packers. The Ravens offense should be utilizing Dickson's speed and Pitta's certain hands to move sticks.
-------------b. For the first time in Raven history, the WR position is well filled with speed. We can mimic the Saints by utilizing Evans as our Meachem, Boldin as our Colston, and Torrey as our Henderson. David Reed can be Lance Moore. Boom shakalakah
-------------c. I feel we are designed to stretch the field and get deeper into routes, especially as our line builds a relationship. Let's stop running 7 and in's, and instead stretch them to 12's. Let's force corners to make decisions.

2. Our defense is AMAZING!

However, I want to see more out of Kindle as the season progresses because I still believe he can be a dynamic pass rusher. Otherwise, I just want Jimmy to get Healthy and get some time at nickel over the next few games so that he can be apart of a 3 man rotation when we play the Patriots in the AFC championship game.


Lastly, I want to see our special teams get creative, we have a few dynamic guys, and we can utilize their speed to score some spoints.
[/quote]

i like it!

now seeing it on the field is another issue. we'll see after the bye.

~Mili

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1317838279' post='816902']
Haha the Irony here is hilarious. I have stated my opinion about Cam and his play calling much to the lament of people on these boards, saying that I needed to see more.

I loved the Jets game and how cam called it lol. I like the fact that we went after their secondary and showed that we were unafraid and that we were going to attack them in all phases, and even make Revis earn his pay that day. Now were we getting a little too pass heavy in the first and run heavy in the second yeah probably, but we were aggressive and I loved it. It did not necessarily work well this time but a few games like that, like lets say against the Texans and Joe will get to 4,000 by week 15. I though in the end it all balanced out.

I also wonder a lot of people were calling for Cam to be more aggressive (myself included) but then in the Jets game you are saying run more !! Well which is it, do you want to be aggressive the whole game or do you want to play it cagey (rethink steeler's playoff loss)? I want them to be going for broke no matter what (until we get to the superbowl and are beating the packers by 20 with 5 left in the game). this whole start to run it out midway through the 3rd quarter is just retarded and can not believe some people were calling for that. Are you insane we finally have the ability to make people pay through the air and you want to run the ball. I think it is important to have balance and all but it has been said for years that when Baltimore gets an offense it is going to be scary. If we can combine a passing attack that can rival that of the Saints, Packer's, Charger's and so on with our defense there is not a team in the league that can beat us heads up..

I would love to see the O work on more trips formations, with Lee on one side and Reed/Doss/LaQuan along with boldin and Torrey. I think if we can establish those guys as all people who can make you pay on the back end then Defense's wont be able to key on personnel as much when putting game plans together. I would also like to see just a better mixture of formations, I would love the trips but you have to keep them off balance. Run Trips, then a 2 TE set, then a 3 wr and RB, etc etc.... Just become unpredictable.

joe and his receiver's need to develop chemistry in a huge way, he also need to acquaint himself with both of his deep threats so there will be less overthrows and missed opportunities.

As for the blocking scheme, I have a feeling the reason we went to it was because of the inexperience of the Oline as a whole and the lack of knowledge of protections calls, sight adjustments, audible's and so on, so you could just ask them to dominate a gap and be done with it. I would like to see more hat on a hat but lets not rule out the zone blocking either, again balance and unpredictability.

So I guess what I am saying is Balanced Aggressiveness if that is even a phrase, and if it is not it should be and you heard it here first.
[/quote]

I agree with you in the sense that we are now complaining about Cam being too aggressive not so long after we were calling him out for not being aggressive enough but the Jets game is a little bit different IMO. Joe hadn't completed a pass for a long while, we had a two score lead but the constant pass-first philosophy just meant that the defense was out there for longer, giving the Jets more opportunity to score. He should have called plays to the situation and tried to get the ground game running earlier. It's the same thing as it was last season: he didn't make sufficient in game adjustments to change what wasn't working.

[ravensdfan]

Not sure we really need adjustments per se. I think we just need guys to get healthy. More time in with Joe and his new receiving corps (including the TEs) should fix much of the inaccuracy in the passing game IMO as it is mostly a timing issue. The offense cannot get better if we run all the time. Airing the ball out is the only way that is going to happen and there will be mistakes. We have a young, inexperienced receiving corps outside of Boldin and Evans. It is Evans first year with Joe and only Boldin's 2nd year. I see big things for this offense and their new attack mentality. It just requires some patience as the kinks get worked out.

[Crabcakes&Football]

Just get everyone healthy for now. We have been very good at gameplanning so far this year, it's just the in-game adjustments after 1st quarter that we need to improve.

[brandon3315]

The ravens have had problems staying consistent in the past few years. I would like to see them stay focused and dedicated and play every game all four quarters. Even though we lost to the Titans I think we played well, just need to clean up our offense a little. Cam had Joe on too many dropbacks versus the Jets. He should get back to what they do best and that is run, run, play action. Work on timing with the receivers and I think we are Superbowl bound. I am even more excited to see we should get some key players back after the bye. We are only going to be more dangerous.