The Trade Block

[The Raven]

Guys, as much as he is bad, Levoir will not be traded. We'd have like, 7 linemen if we did that. That's not enough depth!!!

If anyone goes on the trade block I think it's actually Jarret Johnson. He can't pass rush, he's slow, and he has no more upside. On top of that, we have Kruger, Kindle, and McClellan behind him who can all do a solid job. I'm hoping Krugers starting after the bye.

Now, I don't think we will trade JJ, but he's the player that makes the most sense to trade imo.

[ball hawkin 20]

Am i the only one that sees our lack of talent at WR? Sure we have Q, Evans, Smith, and LaQuan and Reed.. But almost none of them are proven or have experience.

[ball hawkin 20]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1317412220' post='809527']
Simple, we trade Redding, to a team that needs a DE. I say trade Redding, Levoir, and our first round pick, for another teams first rounder, and a young FS.
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Ew, No.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1317497179' post='810155']
Guys, as much as he is bad, Levoir will not be traded. We'd have like, 7 linemen if we did that. That's not enough depth!!!

If anyone goes on the trade block I think it's actually Jarret Johnson. He can't pass rush, he's slow, and he has no more upside. On top of that, we have Kruger, Kindle, and McClellan behind him who can all do a solid job. I'm hoping Krugers starting after the bye.

Now, I don't think we will trade JJ, but he's the player that makes the most sense to trade imo.
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As much as I would like to see that happen, Harbaugh won't even dress Kindle for pass rush situations and Kruger is not half as good at setting and holding an edge as JJ is. McClellan is a ST's lifer. Im getting sick of seeing him on the field instead of Kindle. Kindle can run down the field for 5 touchbacks a game.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1317505670' post='810256']
As much as I would like to see that happen, Harbaugh won't even dress Kindle for pass rush situations and [b]Kruger is not half as good at setting and holding an edge as JJ is.[/b] McClellan is a ST's lifer. Im getting sick of seeing him on the field instead of Kindle. Kindle can run down the field for [b]5 touchbacks a game.[/b]
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Not [i]entirely [/i]true. I can't even count how many outside runs I've seen on his side that went for big gains. I'm starting to think JJ is overrated even against the run. He's good at stuffing the LOS, but he cannot contain the outside run to save his life, and as an OLB in a 3-4 defense that is his priority in the run - [u]to contain[/u]! Kruger is a better pass rusher, and ain't that bad in coverage either. He's underrated against the run as well. Kruger has a ton of upside. JJ has none.

I think kick return teams have been bold enough to prove that there will not be 5 touchbacks a game - they've been very aggressive. I still wouldn't mind seeing Kindle in there, but obviously, McClellan must have more value to the team than Kindle.

The coaches know these players better than we do. It's a simple fact.

[redrum52]

Colts just released a corner. No harm in giving him a shot, I think it was Justin Tryon. Free agent and no risk. I also heard they were trying to trade Curry for a late round pick(I think 7th) anyway and I see no problem with giving him a shot even though the roster is full of lbs. Still though we must remember you dont just think about the season at hand. If we win it this year like we hope we will Ray is gone and JJ is in the last year of his contract so it couldnt hurt especially if Kindle doesnt pan out as planned. I see Kruger being able to step in for JJ and also think they could possibly move him to mlb. I think just picking up another corner and G for depth wouldnt hurt just to be sure for the long run.

[CapoRocky]

I don't see us having many backup players that other teams may want. It is interesting to hear about trading for Samuels. I don't see this happening. The Eagles aren't exactly tearing up the competition right now. If one of the starters goes down, then it is in their best interest to have a viable backup. Redding, Levoir, or Johnson will not be moved unless there is an offer that we can't refuse.

[sflegend89]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1317409873' post='809478']
My friend who's a seahawks fan predicted curry was gonna have a breakout year.. yeah about that [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png[/img]

He's not intelligent enough for defense in the NFL. All the physical characteristics are there, he's just not good enough on the mental side. I can't imagine the Ravens would even be interested (let's be realistic, it really doesn't make sense). I'd be interested in him for a 4th rounder, his youth an potential will drive up the asking price. I would assume they want a 3rd round pick or a 4th and a player. Some team not named the Ravens will over pay for him, I see the bengals or dolphins possibly making an offer. [b]If I had to give my honest guess on his landing spot it be Oakland, They are weak at OLB, in the AFC, plus Al Davis loves raw athletes and loves overpaying for talent.[/b]
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RIP Al but I was right on the money!

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1318455932' post='821925']

RIP Al but I was right on the money!
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lol yea man, you called it

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1317409873' post='809478']
My friend who's a seahawks fan predicted curry was gonna have a breakout year.. yeah about that [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png[/img]

He's not intelligent enough for defense in the NFL. All the physical characteristics are there, he's just not good enough on the mental side. I can't imagine the Ravens would even be interested (let's be realistic, it really doesn't make sense). I'd be interested in him for a 4th rounder, his youth an potential will drive up the asking price. I would assume they want a 3rd round pick or a 4th and a player. Some team not named the Ravens will over pay for him, I see the bengals or dolphins possibly making an offer. If I had to give my honest guess on his landing spot it be Oakland, They are weak at OLB, in the AFC, plus Al Davis loves raw athletes and loves overpaying for talent.
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Sadly, Al Davis has gone to that great football league in the sky; where, I want to add, he no doubt immediately began resuming his 20 year war with Pete Rozelle. We now have to find a new scapegoat for crazy NFL business decisions. I think Dan Snyder really wants the job though. (Note: I have tons of respect for Al Davis and what he did for both the league and the players during his life, and I mean no disrespect to either him or Pete. Without either of them, we wouldn't have football the way it is today.)

[CapoRocky]

Pick up Curry for a late rounder then keep him in case the pass rush fails.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1318539491' post='822569']
Pick up Curry for a late rounder then keep him in case the pass rush fails.
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Wow, go a few posts up

[Kevin Mullins]

Why would we, as drivers of our own fate, even consider trading at this point.

Trading is reserved for teams LOOKING for missing pieces, not trying to get rid of proven vet.

I will say this absolutely confidently...If we were to trade JJ or Redding we would lose not only two good veteran players that play exceptional roles for our defense, but a part of the locker room that can't be replaced.

JJ has been a Raven all the way, is not flashy, and doesn't impress anyone with outright athleticism....However, Rex Ryan made a point of REPEATEDLY discussing his abilities in the pre-game press conferences..........and I honestly think his opinion outweighs ANYONE on this forum considering he is paid to make football decisions, and comes from a pedigree of good football minds. JJ is an irreplacable player because he does the little [profanity deleted] that other players often avoid because they want the flash (AKA blowing up hines ward at the LoS).

Redding is a vet who played on an extremely uncompetitive team in Seattle, and as a result wants to win just as bad as anyone else in the league. he is a team first player who doesn't mind being a rotation with good young ends/linebackers...but as a result...he is fresh and able to play to his best on all plays.

The only move I can forsee us doing is sending Ellerbe to Philly for a conditional pick

[ball hawkin 20]

We defientetly (sp lol) need to get Brandon Marshall. Hell even trading 2 second rounders for it is a good deal. Our receivers aren't that great and he's a pro bowler. Q is getting older and isn't getting as much seperation, Torreys a rookie, Lees hurt, Doss is a rookie, Reed doesn't even have a career catch. I'd love to do a deal for him.

EDIT: He's not on tradeblock but he's trying to leave the Dolphins

[Kevin Mullins]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1318558311' post='822698']
We defientetly (sp lol) need to get Brandon Marshall. Hell even trading 2 second rounders for it is a good deal. Our receivers aren't that great and he's a pro bowler. Q is getting older and isn't getting as much seperation, Torreys a rookie, Lees hurt, Doss is a rookie, Reed doesn't even have a career catch. I'd love to do a deal for him.

EDIT: He's not on tradeblock but he's trying to leave the Dolphins
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He also has horrible character issues, lacks work ethic, and would complain about not getting targeted enough...I speak for most of our forum when I say....PASS...
He

[ball hawkin 20]

[quote name='Kevin Mullins' timestamp='1318559032' post='822704']



He also has horrible character issues, lacks work ethic, and would complain about not getting targeted enough...I speak for most of our forum when I say....PASS...
He
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Hey, borderline personality is a serious problem and its not his fault, jkjk but i think it'd be worth it. Not to many players complain while they're with the Ravens, and he wants to be on a good team, and we have an acutal chance to win a SB. I think he'd behave good, especially with Ray and Reed

[Kevin Mullins]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1318559330' post='822706']

Hey, borderline personality is a serious problem and its not his fault, jkjk but i think it'd be worth it. Not to many players complain while they're with the Ravens, and he wants to be on a good team, and we have an acutal chance to win a SB. I think he'd behave good, especially with Ray and Reed
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We have serious cap issues heading forward as is, and a need to resign young talent such as Ray Rice, Joe Flacco, and Ben Grubbs...heck...even Ed Reed is due for a contract in the next few years (if he continues to keep playing).

BY getting another veteran receiver we would once again stunt the growth of our young talent because they would not play...and would not develop as a result. I think that Marshall is not a good number 1 anymore, thus making him a number two...which would make our current team full of number 2 and 3 receivers...with Boldin MAYBE filling the notion of a true 1 guy. Evans WAS the 1 guy in Buffalo, but his inability to play over the middle limits his effectiveness.

[ball hawkin 20]

Oooh, Brandon Lloyd is on trade block to. I think we should try to get him on a cap-friendly contract

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1317497179' post='810155']
Guys, as much as he is bad, Levoir will not be traded. We'd have like, 7 linemen if we did that. That's not enough depth!!!

If anyone goes on the trade block I think it's actually Jarret Johnson. He can't pass rush, he's slow, and he has no more upside. On top of that, we have Kruger, Kindle, and McClellan behind him who can all do a solid job. I'm hoping Krugers starting after the bye.

Now, I don't think we will trade JJ, but he's the player that makes the most sense to trade imo.
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You...are...insane. I wouldn't trade J.J. for a 2nd round

[JO_75]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1318560272' post='822719']
Oooh, Brandon Lloyd is on trade block to. I think we should try to get him on a cap-friendly contract
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We have like $7 Million in cap Room and he is only making $1.395 Million in the final year of the deal so we would be able to afford him but why??? So he can take away playing time from Torrey Smith? At this point have Boldin and Smith be our 1-2 on the depth chart, end of story.

Now I expect the Titans to go after him, the Rams especially since Josh McDaniels is over there and Lloyd showed he can excel in McDaniels' system and the Rams desperately need a WR. Honestly this would be a bad move for Denver, Tebow showed he can be a QB, and taking a receiver from him isn't going to help him. Hell Denver is already lacking offensive weapons so this would further damage the Broncos offense. They should keep him, Franchise him next off-season and if they are in a position to Draft Alshon Jeffery or Justin Blackmon then trade him to a team that way you know Tebow will have a receiver to throw to, instead of trading him away... unless this is part of Elway's plan to "Suck For Luck."

[ball hawkin 20]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1318560277' post='822720']
You...are...insane. I wouldn't trade J.J. for a 2nd round
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Why not? He's good and all, but he's in the twilight of his prime, and in his prime he really wasn't that great. I could be wrong but this is his contract year, and Sergio has a lot more potential. I doubt this would happen but a 2nd rounder for him is a good deal

[ROH522155]

The insane thing in my opinion is thinking somebody would give up a 2nd round pick for JJ

[I AM LEGEND]

[quote name='ROH522155' timestamp='1318561395' post='822731']
The insane thing in my opinion is thinking somebody would give up a 2nd round pick for JJ
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Seriously

[CalvinSmoke]

Would our team have any interest in Brandon Lloyd?

[admartian]

[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1318561609' post='822734']
Would our team have any interest in Brandon Lloyd?
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Probably not at the price that he would command.

[ball hawkin 20]

Well, i think we should at least take a look at Lloyd, he is after all an all-pro receiver still in his prime. He's also on a 1 year contract so we can have him for just this year, and also would greatly increase our chances of reaching the SB, which seems to be the teams goal. Also there only looking for a 3rd - 5th rounder, thats such a good deal. It's not like adding a starting veteran receiver is Torrey is going to completely stunt his growth. He is still a rookie, and only 22 and still has a lot more to learn, and we're still going to use him to stretch the field.

Hopefully i convinced some people and Ozzie

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1318560277' post='822720']
You...are...insane. I wouldn't trade J.J. for a 2nd round
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I would, JJ's contract is up not this year but next year and he's 32 with under 20 career sacks. A second round pick would be a gross steal.

[Free Agent]

I don't think we are interested in Brandon Lloyd. No need to bring in another 30 year old WR when we just traded for Lee Evans.

[Kwothdaraven]

[quote name='Free Agent' timestamp='1318565346' post='822756']
I don't think we are interested in Brandon Lloyd. No need to bring in another 30 year old WR when we just traded for Lee Evans.
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who might not even play this season. brandon lloyd is better anyway and could be had for a 5th rd pick according to the broncos

[Free Agent]

[quote name='Kwothdaraven' timestamp='1318565518' post='822758']
who might not even play this season. brandon lloyd is better anyway and could be had for a 5th rd pick according to the broncos
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Evans has practiced this week, so I see no reason that he won't be playing this season. And I believe Lloyd's price tag is a third and a fifth, not only a fifth.