Depleted CBs As Webb Doing KR?

[AsianRice]

There's an article on the Ravens frontpage, reporting Webb will replace injured D. Reed as KR. The article didn't have the comment entry, so I like to discuss in here.

As bad as cornerback situation right now, we want to risk another potential CB starter. I know it's football, and injury will likely happen to anyone. Why don't we limit the unfortunates instead of increasing the chance of the unfortunate to happen? It's easy to acquire a KR player than a potential starting CB nowaday.

I don't understand the idea of this at all.......

[url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/09/23/webb-could-be-kick-returner/"]http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/09/23/webb-could-be-kick-returner/[/url]

[Guest Moderator 6]

If Webb goes down we have problems in the secondary (never thought I would say that). It would make more sense to put LaQuon Williams in at KR this week.

[AsianRice]

[quote name='Moderator 6' timestamp='1316810544' post='802007']
If Webb goes down we have problems in the secondary (never thought I would say that). It would make more sense to put LaQuon Williams in at KR this week.
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LaQuan was doing PR during the preseason, but he can do KR also....

[Blex64]

I'd much rather see Allen or LaQuan doing returns. Webb is probably better...but injuries are a concern. Then again, I think Webb is likely to be in on ST whether he's returning or not so maybe it won't make much of a difference.

[AsianRice]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1316811074' post='802012']
I'd much rather see Allen or LaQuan doing returns. Webb is probably better...but injuries are a concern. Then again, I think Webb is likely to be i on ST whether he's returning or not so maybe [b]it won't make much of a difference.[/b]
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The difference you will see is Cary and Foxworth/Carr are starting CBs......

[Kwothdaraven]

This coaching staff baffles me sometimes. You could easily put out torrey smith or laquan, guys who don't contribute anywhere else. Makes absolute no sense to have webb out there.

[edreedfromtheu]

There's really no more risk in him getting injured on a return than there is of him coming up and tackling a RB on a running play. I'd rather have Ed Reed returning kicks, but that's obviously not happening and I believe Webb is the next best option and gives us that ability to take it all the way!

[gabefergy]

Honesty I dont understand why Webb will be the KR other than because he has done it before. I know its not necessarily a more risky job, but we are so thin at CB I would rather not see him out there taking hits when he doesnt need to. Torrey Smith and Tandon Doss both returned kicks in college and were pretty good at it. I say give one of them the KR duties.

[berad]

I'd rather see Smith or Doss but they probably have a lot more confidence in Webb, seeing as he was pretty productive the last time he did it.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1316812556' post='802040']
There's really no more risk in him getting injured on a return than there is of him coming up and tackling a RB on a running play. I'd rather have Ed Reed returning kicks, but that's obviously not happening and I believe Webb is the next best option and gives us that ability to take it all the way!
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True in a sense but having him doing the double duty increases his chances of an injury. With L. Williams sitting around there just isn't any plausible reason to risk injury to Webb for ST.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='Kwothdaraven' timestamp='1316812361' post='802037']
This coaching staff baffles me sometimes. You could easily put out torrey smith or laquan, guys who don't contribute anywhere else. Makes absolute no sense to have webb out there.
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Agreed. For that reason I don't think Webb will see all of the returns, he'll be sharing with Torrey or LaQuan. It just makes zero sense.

[Purple_Polo89]

I see it like this Webb will likely return kicks..but I think Williams and Smith will take turns with punt returns while being eased into the offense while Doss starts as the third..unless it's Smith who starts as the third while Williams and Doss are eased in....Either way sunday is going to be an interesting day

[Blex64]

[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1316811660' post='802023']
The difference you will see is Cary and Foxworth/Carr are starting CBs......
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I don't quite get what you're saying.

You mean if he's injured? Obviously. But he's probably going to be on ST coverage if he's not a returner, and if that's the case and he's our best return option we might as well utilize him.

[PeRK82]

Thats pretty stupid if you ask me, he is our 1 or 2 and they are going to risk him getting hurt.
How bout put in T.Smith, we have depth in WR not the CB position or even Laq. Williams but i actually want him to be in the line up in the wr position. Im telling you this guy has that IT factor, you can see it the way he plays , he hungry and definitely has the skill. He needs to atleast be our number 3 wr.

Mark my words ,if this kid gets the thrown to , he will light it up and will move up the ranks.

You can stamp that one

[PeRK82]

[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1316810251' post='802004']
There's an article on the Ravens frontpage, reporting Webb will replace injured D. Reed as KR. The article didn't have the comment entry, so I like to discuss in here.

As bad as cornerback situation right now, we want to risk another potential CB starter. I know it's football, and injury will likely happen to anyone. Why don't we limit the unfortunates instead of increasing the chance of the unfortunate to happen? It's easy to acquire a KR player than a potential starting CB nowaday.

I don't understand the idea of this at all.......

[url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/09/23/webb-could-be-kick-returner/"]http://blogs.baltimo...-kick-returner/[/url]
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I think everyone is thinking the same thing, What are the Coaches thinking man, its unreal, i dont care if he can return it for a TD. There is a possibility that he could get hurt. Why in the world would you risk it especially when we have T.Smith who can return and hasnt done jack in the offense. I say put T.smith in and let Laq. be our number 3.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='Kwothdaraven' timestamp='1316812361' post='802037']
This coaching staff baffles me sometimes. You could easily put out torrey smith or laquan, guys who don't contribute anywhere else. Makes absolute no sense to have webb out there.
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They have made more than a few questionable decisions, especially so far this season. I like Harbs as a guy, but he's not making a lot of sense right now.

There's no reason to have Webb do anything on special teams the way our injury situation is right now. With all the wasted roster spots Harbs saves for purely special teams guys, there's bound to be somebody who can kneel in the endzone for us this week.

[BloodRaven]

I'm surprised Tyrod Taylor isn't returning kicks.

[The Raven]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1316835334' post='802320']
I'm surprised Tyrod Taylor isn't returning kicks.
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My sarcasm detector is malfunctioning. Were you serious? lol

I want Reed, Williams, or Smith back there. With our DB situation, webb shouldn't be back there,

[Alexir]

Harbaugh, it wasn't wise to place Jimmy on special teams when he was recovering from a groin injury.
Harbaugh, it's not wise to bench Sergio Kindle or Tandon Doss when our pass rush and passing game isn't reaching it's potential.

Harbaugh, Don't you DARE risk one of our corners health just to garner a 9 yard gain on a punt. I get it you are a special teams coach, which is important, but there are no 3 and outs in special teams, there are no 5-8 minute drives on special teams, its ONE PLAY. And you want to put your best current CB on KR?

Do you want to get run out of Baltimore?

We all obviously love Harbaugh's style of coaching but I think this is crossing the line, and no I wouldn't run him out of town but this would probably be the stupidest thing I've seen Baltimore do in it's history....well that and Elvis Grbac.

[Bltravens]

Are we really surprised...honestly?

[H8R]

LaQuan is probably the easiest fit.

[AsianRice]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1316848585' post='802368']
Are we really surprised...honestly?
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Not really, but things need to change.....What if Webb got caught up in pile of opposing players who are trying to bring him down and twisted his ankle. Harb would say it's an accident, you really can't avoid it, and he would get injured covering opposing WRs too. Then, we have Cary, hamstring Carr, and ACL Foxworth starting CBs. That's very optimistic consequences.....

[BloodRaven]

I'm going to laugh on the day when one of our receivers is forced to play corner.

[AsianRice]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1316874901' post='802450']
I'm going to laugh on the day when [b]one of our receivers [/b]is forced to play corner.
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If somehow that reciever is playing well, he'll be put in KR for some more score......

[gametyme]

I agree with pretty much all the posts on this topic. It doesnt seem to be worth the risk to lose Webb on a KR. Let Torrey or L. Williams do it. I'm not sure why T. Smith woulndt be doing this anyway, unless he cant catch the kickoff or punt.

[ravensfan2424]

Torrey Smith:

ACC career kick return yards record

ACC single-season kick return yards record (2008)

ACC single-season kick return yards record (2009)

2009 All-ACC second team (Return Specialist)

2009 P[i]hil Steele's[/i] All-ACC second team (KR)

2009 Rivals.com All-ACC second team (KR)

Why haven't we given him more tries at Kick retuner yet?

[lowrider]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1316842384' post='802364']
Harbaugh, it wasn't wise to place Jimmy on special teams when he was recovering from a groin injury.
Harbaugh, it's not wise to bench Sergio Kindle or Tandon Doss when our pass rush and passing game isn't reaching it's potential.

Harbaugh, Don't you DARE risk one of our corners health just to garner a 9 yard gain on a punt. I get it you are a special teams coach, which is important, but there are no 3 and outs in special teams, there are no 5-8 minute drives on special teams, its ONE PLAY. And you want to put your best current CB on KR?

Do you want to get run out of Baltimore?

We all obviously love Harbaugh's style of coaching but I think this is crossing the line, and no I wouldn't run him out of town but this would probably be the stupidest thing I've seen Baltimore do in it's history....well that and Elvis Grbac.
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Agree with 100% of your post. Something to note. Carr is coming back soon. Also Jimmy Smith is coming back in a couple weeks. So our depth at cb is going to be solid again. But I agree with you. JImmy Smith should never be on special teams. he is too valuable. And Kindle and Doss need to be on the field.

[RayRiceFan27]

Are many of you forgeting that the kicks go so far deep in the endzone now, that the idea of players returning it is probably 20% out of 100%? Webb doesnt have to return it if he doesnt want to. Of course theres still a chance of injury if he does return it, but its not like he will have many opportunities to get injured with less kick returns now....

But overall I agree with most of you, we should let the younger guys step up instead of our starters, I just wanted to throw the previous comment out there....

[CHRISSY G69]

Im all for Williams i think that he can perform on the kickoff well.