MERGED: Loss To The Titans - General Observations

[JasminE]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1316375070' post='795940']

1st...i agree with you. many cats in here jumped the gun after our victory over the steelers in week 1 and started thinking about the playoffs, division championship and superbowl. many of them overlooked and looked past the Titans and said that we would steam roll them etc. not the case!

2nd...i love our team! it's just week 2 and we still have some work to do. and, in the words of a steeler fan that posted here last week after their loss, i will say....

[i][b]"You are never as good as you think you are and never as bad as others think you are!"[/b][/i]

~Mili
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Oh yeah! Love that quote for us this week. That raised my spirits a little bit!

[NJ-Raven]

[quote name='Runnin Raven' timestamp='1316377735' post='796476']
Raise your hand if you think Doss should be above Torrey on the depth chart.

*raises hand*
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I got both my hands raised and my feet too

[TheSim]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1316377644' post='796456']

what game were you watching? this was a team loss..did Joe allow the Titans to go over 400 yards of total offense? their OL played much better than ours, part of the reason is crowd noise and their defense getting off the ball quickly

its not all on Joe thats for sure, but since he's the QB thats who ppl point to..which is crazy because the entire team lost this game, the WRs didnt get separation same as last year..so that kind of makes it hard to complete passes, Joe was on the run quite a bit...
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You don't have to ask me what game I was watching. We're on the same team, no reason to be like that.

They had 400 yards of total offense... partly because we couldn't keep the ball in our offense's hands. Our offense literally had one good drive all day, the TD drive in the 2nd quarter. And without a couple of dumb penalties by the Titans, we wouldn't have even had the small amount of success we did. Joe threw 2 INTs (both were bad throws into tight coverage) and couldn't convert on 3rd down, missed receivers badly on at least a half dozen occasions, and overall just played badly. As far as pressure, the o-line can't be expected to hold the Titans D-line all day while Joe tries to find an open receiver. At times they gave him 4-5 full seconds of time to find somebody and he STILL couldn't make a throw.

[EricV703]

I think Doss should be in over Smith. Smith never showed anything in the preseason or these last 2 games. Doss has, at least in the preseason.

[ratedr]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1316377835' post='796494']
I'm just going to be honest for a second, and this isn't out of frustration. I wouldn't think twice about a loss if it were to a team like the Packers, Patriots, Saints, Steelers, Eagles, etc. But the fact of the matter is, we lost to the Titans where Foxworth was burnt and we couldn't even get one sack. Elite QB's like Manning, Brees and Brady would find ways to come back and find open players in spite of their OC not being able to deliver with the best plays. This is a knock on Flacco, and I'm sure that a lot of people here know that I'm a huge fan of his, but he needs to step up. Not sure how we can beat the defending AFC champions in a convincing victory, then lose to the Titans where Chris Johnson didn't do much. There's nothing that we can take away from this game to stay positive for next week. We should have won it, it's as easy as that.

I'm not hitting the panic button, but this team as a whole disappointed me today.
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Exactly. I would've rather lost last week and won this week. Maybe last week really was our Super Bowl, wow.

Tenn didn't even play that well, we just played terribly.

Flacco, in year 4, STILL cannot beat the cover 2, a defense he sees at least twice a year.

[scrock]

people overreact when we win big, people overreact when we lose

Other QBs would have made plays even with pressure around them? Even when their receivers weren't getting open? Give the Titans some credit guys, sheesh...we havent earned anything yet, we got outplayed today just like the Steelers did last week

guess what, its going to happen, guys have bad games...now if u understand the game you would know its not all on Joe...it starts with the OL and then its up to your playmakers to make plays, we didnt make enough

and the D is where the problem is and why we lost today...Titans racked up 400+ yards...terrible

[stopsizzle55]

i also thought it was a little odd that we kicked the field goal in the fourth quarter. we were still down by two scores after the fg. i just thought we should have gone for it

[Guest RBates]

Get zibby off the field period, there is no situation that i want him in the game.

[EricV703]

Flacco and the playcalling HAVE to be the problem with the offense. Maybe even the coaching.

Our Wide Receivers can't get open, and then we have the freaking Lions and Bills putting up a better offensive performance than we have these past 2 games.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='stopsizzle55' timestamp='1316378073' post='796539']
i also thought it was a little odd that we kicked the field goal in the fourth quarter. we were still down by two scores after the fg. i just thought we should have gone for it
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Did you see how inept the offense was all game long? They wouldn't have done anything at all. Wasn't it 4th and 11 or something like that? The Titans would have known it was a pass and would have done more of what they did all game long.

[ratedr]

I said he's not to blame for the loss, but I'm beginning to believe that Flacco is part of the overall problem with the offense.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='EricV703' timestamp='1316378113' post='796546']
Flacco and the playcalling HAVE to be the problem with the offense. Maybe even the coaching.

[b]Our Wide Receivers can't get open[/b], and then we have the freaking Lions and Bills putting up a better offensive performance than we have these past 2 games.
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So why is that Flacco's fault? Or even Cam for that matter...

[stopsizzle55]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1316378064' post='796538']
people overreact when we win big, people overreact when we lose

Other QBs would have made plays even with pressure around them? Even when their receivers weren't getting open? Give the Titans some credit guys, sheesh...we havent earned anything yet, we got outplayed today just like the Steelers did last week

guess what, its going to happen, guys have bad games...now if u understand the game you would know its not all on Joe...it starts with the OL and then its up to your playmakers to make plays, we didnt make enough

and the D is where the problem is and why we lost today...Titans racked up 400+ yards...terrible
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the offense had 229 yards and 3 turnovers. that seems like a pretty big problem to me. we had under 3 yards per rush. you can't blame this game on the d. flacco had time to throw the ball for most of the day. obviously after about 3 or 4 seconds your pass protection is going to break down. flacco needs to find guys

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='TheSim' timestamp='1316377978' post='796527']

You don't have to ask me what game I was watching. We're on the same team, no reason to be like that.

They had 400 yards of total offense... partly because we couldn't keep the ball in our offense's hands. [b] Our offense literally had one good drive all day, the TD drive in the 2nd quarter. And without a couple of dumb penalties by the Titans, we wouldn't have even had the small amount of success we did. [/b] Joe threw 2 INTs (both were bad throws into tight coverage) and couldn't convert on 3rd down, missed receivers badly on at least a half dozen occasions, and overall just played badly. As far as pressure, the o-line can't be expected to hold the Titans D-line all day while Joe tries to find an open receiver. At times they gave him 4-5 full seconds of time to find somebody and he STILL couldn't make a throw.
[/quote]On a check down or a screen no doubt. Im starting to think that these games are getting to big for Flacco, He's aloud to have a bad game but i have yet to see one great game from Joe.

[scrock]

[quote name='TheSim' timestamp='1316377978' post='796527']

You don't have to ask me what game I was watching. We're on the same team, no reason to be like that.

[b]They had 400 yards of total offense... partly because we couldn't keep the ball in our offense's hands. Our offense literally had one good drive all day,[/b] the TD drive in the 2nd quarter. And without a couple of dumb penalties by the Titans, we wouldn't have even had the small amount of success we did. Joe threw 2 INTs (both were bad throws into tight coverage) and couldn't convert on 3rd down, missed receivers badly on at least a half dozen occasions, and overall just played badly. As far as pressure, the o-line can't be expected to hold the Titans D-line all day while Joe tries to find an open receiver. At times they gave him 4-5 full seconds of time to find somebody and he STILL couldn't make a throw.
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its true our offense never got anything going, u are looking at it differently than me thats all, I see it as the defense not being able to get their offense off the field...which in turn leads our offense to never getting anything going...its like cup half empty, or half full

...u could look at it both ways i guess...still a team loss, Joe didnt lose us the game, he tried to make some throws he shouldnt have to try and get something going, we will bounce back, Joe will play well and everyone will be like wow the Ravens are good again

..then if we ever lose it will be doom and gloom just how it goes

[scrock]

[quote name='EricV703' timestamp='1316378113' post='796546']
Flacco and the playcalling HAVE to be the problem with the offense. Maybe even the coaching.

Our Wide Receivers can't get open, and then we have the freaking Lions and Bills putting up a better offensive performance than we have these past 2 games.
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the Lions have a lot of explosive playmakers and their QB is good when healthy...the Bills are surprising though

its not the end of the world, its 1 loss

i know they will be ready to go next week and once we get back into the win column ppl will start to calm down

[EricV703]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1316378225' post='796567']
So why is that Flacco's fault? Or even Cam for that matter...
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"Maybe even the coaching"

[heapitup247]

[quote name='stopsizzle55' timestamp='1316378073' post='796539']
i also thought it was a little odd that we kicked the field goal in the fourth quarter. we were still down by two scores after the fg. i just thought we should have gone for it
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I agree with the call. We weren't scoring a td there, go for the field goal and hope for some 3 and outs.

[stopsizzle55]

[quote name='darklight1216' timestamp='1316378167' post='796556']
Did you see how inept the offense was all game long? They wouldn't have done anything at all. Wasn't it 4th and 11 or something like that? The Titans would have known it was a pass and would have done more of what they did all game long.
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so thats the same rationale as saying theres 2 seconds left and your down by 3 at your own 40. but dont do a hail mary because the defense would know its a pass and would just knock it down. all im saying is that yea if we didnt get it were still down by two scores but if we do were a play away from being in the lead

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

Deep breathes

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1316378049' post='796536']
Exactly. I would've rather lost last week and won this week. Maybe last week really was our Super Bowl, wow.

Tenn didn't even play that well, we just played terribly.

Flacco, in year 4, STILL cannot beat the cover 2, a defense he sees at least twice a year.
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The fact that he can't beat the cover 2, even with additions like Torrey Smith and Lee Evans, should not only fall on him, but Cam Cameron as well. I just thought that it was having three of the same WR's last year that made Joe had a hard time against the scheme, but I suppose it runs deeper than that.

[scrock]

[quote name='stopsizzle55' timestamp='1316378230' post='796569']

the offense had 229 yards and 3 turnovers. that seems like a pretty big problem to me. we had under 3 yards per rush. you can't blame this game on the d. flacco had time to throw the ball for most of the day. obviously after about 3 or 4 seconds your pass protection is going to break down. flacco needs to find guys
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really? u cant blame the Defense? haha, u can look at both sides, they both played bad

the D couldnt stop the Titans, the Ravens offense never got it going..Joe tried to force some throws into tight windows because guys werent getting open...its okay, its 1 game

[scrock]

i remain positive, i know the team well enough to know that wasnt us

it was and it wasnt, they played poorly..its on Joe, its on Cam, its on the defense!! its a team loss

big time, and we will bounce back just like we always do

[SteelerRavenHalfbreed]

Nothing really changed with the Ravens since last week except mindset. Same players...same awesome talent. Overconfidence and sloppiness caused this loss. It's that simple. Overconfidence can be fixed in a week. The lack of raw talent can't. Ravens fans shouldn't despair.

[ratedr]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1316378473' post='796601']

The fact that he can't beat the cover 2, even with additions like Torrey Smith and Lee Evans, should not only fall on him, but Cam Cameron as well. I just thought that it was having three of the same WR's last year that made Joe had a hard time against the scheme, but I suppose it runs deeper than that.
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He might just lack the mental acumen. Maybe Trent Dilfer is right and he's reached his ceiling.

I guess this is why people say Matt Ryan is better.

[Clutch Ravens]

General observations: We STILL can't get pressure. Cam Cameron is the Cam Cameron of old. Our o-line still isn't all that. Flacco still can't figure the cover 2. Domonique Foxworth is useless - we'd be better off putting a wet paper bag out there hoping to confuse the opposing receiver.

Also, NEVER play your #1 corner on special teams. Never, ever, ever, ever. Special Teams coverage is NOT important. You play your fringe players on special teams because it doesn't matter too much if they get hurt and if they're awful on special teams and are fringe players then they shouldn't be making an NFL team.

[PurplePerfection]

Did anyone notice that the Titans were given a free first down at the end of the second quarter? On their last drive of the second half were Britt scored a TD the Titans should have been on 4th and goal, not 3rd and goal. This should have resulted in a FG not a TD. If you watch the CBS broadcast it is as clear as day. (It is possible maybe CBS messed something up. I have to re-watch.)

Anyway, we played horrible on both sides of the ball and deserved this loss regardless of numerous missed calls in Tennessee's favor.

Very disappointing loss, after last weeks domination. Flacco is back to his inconsistent play after such a masterful game 1, and our pass rush forgot to make the trip.

[TheSim]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1316378270' post='796572']

its true our offense never got anything going, u are looking at it differently than me thats all, I see it as the defense not being able to get their offense off the field...which in turn leads our offense to never getting anything going...its like cup half empty, or half full

...u could look at it both ways i guess...still a team loss, Joe didnt lose us the game, he tried to make some throws he shouldnt have to try and get something going, we will bounce back, Joe will play well and everyone will be like wow the Ravens are good again

..then if we ever lose it will be doom and gloom just how it goes
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It's a team loss, but we can't keep making excuses for Joe after games like this. If receivers are covered, he needs to change up the routes or find the right mismatches. No secondary is so good that you can't beat them with a good read and a good throw. The 2 INTs were absolutely horrible throws at the worst possible times. The delay of game penalty was on Joe, too. Our defense played pretty badly too, but they kept this a winnable game for the most part. Joe is the leader of this offense and a leader of this team, he played badly and we lost badly. I don't think it's that crazy to admit this.

[Blex64]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1316378223' post='796565']
I said he's not to blame for the loss, but I'm beginning to believe that Flacco is part of the overall problem with the offense.
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[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1316378263' post='796571']
On a check down or a screen no doubt. Im starting to think that these games are getting to big for Flacco, He's aloud to have a bad game but i have yet to see one great game from Joe.
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Falcco haters coming out of the woodwork? He had all day to throw the ball and didn't because nobody was open. The times he tried to force it it got picked off. You're going to criticize him regardless.

This game was poorly coached on both sides, and poorly executed on both sides. I'd say the offense was worse on the coaching, and the defense on the execution, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter because the whole team played terribly.

Why the hell was LeVoir starting at guard over Gurode? He was terrible all game.

Not to blame the officials, but they weren't helping by ignoring PI all day long.

[stopsizzle55]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1316378474' post='796602']

really? u cant blame the Defense? haha, u can look at both sides, they both played bad

the D couldnt stop the Titans, the Ravens offense never got it going..Joe tried to force some throws into tight windows because guys werent getting open...its okay, its 1 game
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yea the more i talk about it the more it seems to me that it was a terrible game on both sides of the ball. yea its 1 game and its not a huge deal but last week was only 1 game too and you had people on here saying were winning the super bowl. we just played flat today and its frustrating