What Is Wrong With The Steelers?

[thewarden86]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1317676164' post='814827']
BTW is Harrison one eyed now? That would be awesome if he played with an eye patch. I'd be even more scared if I were an OL man.

"Here comes that one-eye pass rushing freak!, they say his eye socket is filled with gold!"
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HAHAHAHA!!! I actually tought the same thing!

[thewarden86]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1317679995' post='814935']
You know, you surely don't take well to losing..... Ravens fans have been hoping for the Steelers to fall off for awhile now....., that... regardless of what your biased thoughts are... they haven't played well this year. The trend seems to be a decline. Obviously, its very early and they are as resilient as they come. Though, for you to blindly use last year as a measuring stick.... thats a bit naive, don't you think?
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Not when it comes to the age argument, no. And I'm not the only one discounting it. In fact, I think it's a little too easy to use the age card. If it was in week 14-17 then maybe, but it's week 4-5.

[H8R]

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317729935' post='815479']

Not when it comes to the age argument, no. And I'm not the only one discounting it. In fact, I think it's a little too easy to use the age card. If it was in week 14-17 then maybe, but it's week 4-5.
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What, on defense has changed? you've basically returned the same team.... IF age IS a factor now, I feel really bad for you guys in weeks 14-17. I don't think they're too old, I do think they are playing badly. I DO think they need to infuse more youth or at least go to more sub packages. Pittsburgh generally stays in base defense, correct? Maybe Dickie needs to find a better line-up? The pass rush is as weak as I can remember it, Troy P has blown MORE tackles then I've seen 9 or ever thought he would), Farrior is being exposed over the middle, Larry Foote is a MAJOR liability in run support, McFadden can't get healthy, Casey Hampton is getting pushed out of plays.....

So, if it's not age, then where has the decline came from? Fall off in skill? Lazy in the lockout? Super Bowl Hangover? Lack of motivation? Poor coaching? Poor Personell? I'm not beating up on the Steelers at all, I watch most of their games and I'm looking for an even more watchful eye's opinion.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1317731811' post='815493']

What, on defense has changed? you've basically returned the same team.... IF age IS a factor now, I feel really bad for you guys in weeks 14-17.[b] I don't think they're too old, I do think they are playing badly.[/b] I DO think they need to infuse more youth or at least go to more sub packages. Pittsburgh generally stays in base defense, correct?
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This I agree with. And they ARE injecting age. Base defense? Are you kidding? LeBeau and the Steelers are most known for disguising their defense. I guess they have you fooled. haha j/k.


[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1317731811' post='815493']
Maybe Dickie needs to find a better line-up? The pass rush is as weak as I can remember it, [b]Troy P has blown MORE tackles then I've seen 9 or ever thought he would), Farrior is being exposed over the middle, Larry Foote is a MAJOR liability in run support, McFadden can't get healthy, Casey Hampton is getting pushed out of plays.....[/b]
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I disagree with most of this. Most of this is an exxageration based on only a play or two by each player and NOT their overall performance to date. I also think we went into Houston wanting to defend the pass.

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1317731811' post='815493']
So, if it's not age, then where has the decline came from? Fall off in skill? Lazy in the lockout? Super Bowl Hangover? Lack of motivation? Poor coaching? Poor Personell? I'm not beating up on the Steelers at all, I watch most of their games and I'm looking for an even more watchful eye's opinion.
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That's the big question. But, we only gave up 17 points to a good team. We shut out a poor team (and shut outs are rare enough to make that an accomplishment). Again, we're only a few months removed from a SB appearance and a #2 defense.

My worry is more our inibility (or Mendy's inability) to run the ball and our shuffled/depleted O-Line. With the exception of our game against the Ravens, we've done okay on defense. Not so well, at all, on offense.

And I'm not being biased. I'm being honest.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

you only got another 4 weeks to figure it out and email tomlin warden j/k just pray he dont say unleash hell again then the season will be over

[thewarden86]

Players themselves admit the zone blocking scheme causing issues:

[url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11277/1179589-66-3.stm"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11277/1179589-66-3.stm[/url]

[H8R]

The Steelers DO NOT run a lot of sub packages.... They stay in BASE D most of the time, sure...the blitzes are diguised but thats about it.

[RavensFan2110]

Be grateful. They're our biggest rival, and they're playing terribly. What's not to like? Hopefully in Week 9 (the week we vs them, I think?) they will still be playing like they are now, and we will have an easy win over them.

[berad]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1317735835' post='815531']
The Steelers DO NOT run a lot of sub packages.... They stay in BASE D most of the time, sure...the blitzes are diguised but thats about it.
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They like to sub out Farrior for Foote

[thewarden86]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1317735835' post='815531']
The Steelers DO NOT run a lot of sub packages.... They stay in BASE D most of the time, sure...the blitzes are diguised but thats about it.
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Neither do you with the exception of using Suggs in a few different spots.

Troy plays all over the place which would be our equivelent to that.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317743627' post='815664']
Neither do you with the exception of using Suggs in a few different spots.

Troy plays all over the place which would be our equivelent to that.
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Well, this year, Reed and when Pollard is in (shoot Webb too) have been lining up everywhere!!

[TheRavenouseD2008]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1317744188' post='815678']
Well, this year, Reed and when Pollard is in (shoot Webb too) have been lining up everywhere!!
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dont forget kruger and jj when they are on the field we shift them arround so much I expect ray lewis to put on a hat and say now follow the dangerouse linebacker and place big cylinders of the lbs and start acting like its the shell game

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

Numerous sources on twitter including Schefter are reporting that Harrison has an orbital fracture around his eyes and will be out for a couple of weeks.

Injuries becoming a problem yet Warden? lol

[1/28/01]

Making matters worse for them, Harrison is out at least two weeks with an orbital bone fracture in/above his right eye. Ouch!!!

[1/28/01]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1317745397' post='815715']
Numerous sources on twitter including Schefter are reporting that Harrison has an orbital fracture around his eyes and will be out for a couple of weeks.

Injuries becoming a problem yet Warden? lol
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Got me by 15 seconds.....nice!

[thewarden86]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1317745397' post='815715']
Numerous sources on twitter including Schefter are reporting that Harrison has an orbital fracture around his eyes and will be out for a couple of weeks.

Injuries becoming a problem yet Warden? lol
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Why is that funny? Oh, his orbital bone broke because he's old. Silly me

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1317745424' post='815718']
Got me by 15 seconds.....nice!
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Just got it in there. I'm really pleased I got it in without a spelling error lol.

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317745546' post='815721']
Why is that funny? Oh, his orbital bone broke because he's old. Silly me [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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No, nothing to do with his age. I was referencing the fact that you said your season collapsing hinges around injuries. Well, now Harrison is out for a few weeks, Mendenhall is out for this week I believe, Aaron Smith is doubtful for this week according to Tomlin and Roethlisberger is not going to be 100% and until your O-line gets better he will keep taking hits.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1317746059' post='815730']

Just got it in there. I'm really pleased I got it in without a spelling error lol.


No, nothing to do with his age. I was referencing the fact that you said your season collapsing hinges around injuries. Well, now Harrison is out for a few weeks, Mendenhall is out for this week I believe, Aaron Smith is doubtful for this week according to Tomlin and Roethlisberger is not going to be 100% and until your O-line gets better he will keep taking hits.
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Yeah, well done in crunch time while under the gun!

[thewarden86]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1317746059' post='815730']


Just got it in there. I'm really pleased I got it in without a spelling error lol.



No, nothing to do with his age. I was referencing the fact that you said your season collapsing hinges around injuries. Well, now Harrison is out for a few weeks, Mendenhall is out for this week I believe, Aaron Smith is doubtful for this week according to Tomlin and Roethlisberger is not going to be 100% and until your O-line gets better he will keep taking hits.
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Mewelde Moore is likely out. Not, Mendy. Timmons is filling Harrisons spot for now.

Still more concerned about our o-line more, because again, we held the Texans to 17 points.

[PuRock]

Bring on the eye patch!!!!!!

[Purple Nurple]

Someone has PS......GET IT DONE!!!!

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317746771' post='815752']
Mewelde Moore is likely out. Not, Mendy. Timmons is filling Harrisons spot for now.

Still more concerned about our o-line more, because again, we held the Texans to 17 points.
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Well, they scored 31 but had 2 TDs taken away, Wardy... but yes, your D held the O to 17 points without Andre Johnson.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317746771' post='815752']
Mewelde Moore is likely out. Not, Mendy. Timmons is filling Harrisons spot for now.

Still more concerned about our o-line more, because again, we held the Texans to 17 points.
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Your O-line is more than a legitimate cause for concern. I know the play where he got hurt was dirty and illegal but Ben surely can't avoid injury forever behind it.

Not to question your knowledge of your own team or anything but this PFT article says Mendenhall is "far less likely to play" (than Roethlisberger) albeit it is incorrect in saying Moore is likely to play in his place.

EDIT: Forgot the link lol : [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/04/james-harrison-out-with-eye-fracture-roethlisberger-looks-likely-to-play/"]http://profootballta...likely-to-play/[/url]

[Militant X 1]

i wouldn't count the steelers out just yet.

~Mili

[thewarden86]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1317749409' post='815842']

Well, they scored 31 but had 2 TDs taken away, Wardy... but yes, your D held the O to 17 points without Andre Johnson.
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7 of those was on special teams. Called back by LEGITIMATE penalty.

Want to argu pentalties now???

You guys are hilarious.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1317749540' post='815847']

Your O-line is more than a legitimate cause for concern. I know the play where he got hurt was dirty and illegal but Ben surely can't avoid injury forever behind it.

Not to question your knowledge of your own team or anything but this PFT article says Mendenhall is "far less likely to play" (than Roethlisberger) albeit it is incorrect in saying Moore is likely to play in his place.

EDIT: Forgot the link lol : [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/04/james-harrison-out-with-eye-fracture-roethlisberger-looks-likely-to-play/"]http://profootballta...likely-to-play/[/url]
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Careful what you get from PFW.

I was listening to Tomlin's post presser in NFL Network

[T-ray]

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317751630' post='815901']

Careful what you get from PFW.

I was listening to Tomlin's post presser in NFL Network
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Kind Sparty, rotoworld is reporting the same exact thing. Both Moore (ankle) and Mendy (hamstring) are banged up. Thanks for your time.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1317752178' post='815912']

Kind Sparty, rotoworld is reporting the same exact thing. Both Moore (ankle) and Mendy (hamstring) are banged up. Thanks for your time.
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Oooh! Two prize winning sources right there! haha

This is too easy.

Sparty? haha. Umm, spell check? Thanks for your time.

[T-ray]

[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1317752780' post='815932']

Oooh! Two prize winning sources right there! haha

This is too easy.

Sparty? haha. Umm, spell check? Thanks for your time.
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Sparky sounds too baby-ish for my friend. Or is it Spanky?? Thanks for your time, friend.

[thewarden86]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1317753210' post='815945']

Sparky sounds too baby-ish for my friend. Or is it Spanky?? Thanks for your time, friend.
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You're welcome. As riveting as this time together has been, are we done?