Flacco Post At The Browns Board

[K-Dog]

I was lurking not posting.

Insominia is awful.

I saw this post on Flacco.

[quote name='some browns guy']Before we start beating the stink out of the Browns, let's keep in mind that Romeo really must have hands his hands full this week with coming up with a defensive scheme to stop the Mighty Joe Flacco. Romeo, knew way ahead of time that this Flacco dude came staight from QB university.. Those Blue Hens of Deleware....I'm just shaking thinkin about having that responsibility.....How could I ever think about stopping that guy?...where to start?, what to do?.....what to do?
Well, at least facing this beast of a QB is now over and he can look forward to putting more of these great defensive game plans together to face all those other mutt QB's...like both Mannings, McNabb, Big Ben, Palmer, etc.....
Romeo, must be feeling so much better now to know he only has to face the Mighty Flacco (1)more time...just the thought of facing this QB again give me the runs!!...[/quote]

Hmmmmm

[I*Bleed*Purple]

I'm pretty sure he was being VERY sarcastic in his talk of Flacco. But that's okay, he wore out the Mighty Derek Anderson just after he wore out the Mighty Carson Palmer. Don't talk **** when you have yet to win a game.

[Baltboy]

I saw that over there.
Only a few say we have a good team.
The rest can't believe they lost to the suckass ravens
Let 'em stew in their misery.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

[quote name='Baltboy' post='67550' date='Sep 22 2008, 12:29 AM']I saw that over there.
Only a few say we have a good team.
The rest can't believe they lost to the suckass ravens
Let 'em stew in their misery.[/quote]

People can talk bad about other teams all they want. They still think we were the 5-11 Ravens we were last year. But we know better, I believe our team is going to shock everyone out there when we beat Pittsburgh. And after watching the way Indianapolis play, we have a solid chance against them.

[PuRock]

It's not so much a knock on our team or Flacco for that matter.

Flacco is a rookie QB and the gameplan should have been revolved around forcing him to win the game. Romeo Crennel failed in the fact that he could not stop the run. In turn Flacco was not heavily relied upon to help us win.

That post is more about the frustration at Crennel and an 0-3 record, than a knock against our team. It's a fact we have a Rookie QB. Other defenses want to put the game in his hands. Just like Tampa Bay did against Matt Ryan last week.

But if you can't stop the run, you can't stop our team.

[Tiz]

[quote name='Baltboy' post='67550' date='Sep 21 2008, 10:29 PM']I saw that over there.
Only a few say we have a good team.
The rest can't believe they lost to the suckass ravens
Let 'em stew in their misery.[/quote]


We haven't proved we have a good team yet. We have a great defense and decent running game and an inconsistent passing game. We beat two teams that really are as woeful as we were last year so we haven't proved a whole lot other than we arent' the worse team in a down trotten division.

That said, if Flacco progresses as expected and the offense becomes more consistent we will be a good team but at this very point in time we are not.

[blackbandana]

[quote name='Tiz' post='67600' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:50 AM']We haven't proved we have a good team yet. We have a great defense and decent running game and an inconsistent passing game. We beat two teams that really are as woeful as we were last year so we haven't proved a whole lot other than we arent' the worse team in a down trotten division.

That said, if Flacco progresses as expected and the offense becomes more consistent we will be a good team but at this very point in time we are not.[/quote]

only the steelers game will tell...a true test of our abilities will be next game...

[Tiz]

[quote name='blackbandana' post='67602' date='Sep 22 2008, 07:55 AM']only the steelers game will tell...a true test of our abilities will be next game...[/quote]

True to a point. Watching the Eagles man handle the Steelers offense I expect the same from our defense. thankfully I don't see us needing to lean on our passing game this year the way the defense is playing. I actually expect the defense to score again against Pitt.

[theFRANCHISE]

There [i]is[/i] some credence to the (sarcastic) talk of Delaware being QB U of Div I-AA.

Obviously, there haven't been many of them to find success in the NFL. But there have been QBs from Delaware who were at least good enough for NFL teams to select in the draft.

Rich Gannon, Joe Flacco, Scott Brunner, Andy Hall, and Jeff Komlo were the only 5 Delaware QBs to go to the NFL, and all 5 were drafted. All five had led Delaware to the playoffs and/or the national title game, and two of them quarterbacked national championship squads. In addition, former Blue Hens QB Matt Nagy has found success in the AFL and was the starter for the Georgia Force and the Columbus Destroyers when he led both teams to the Arena Bowl.

Granted, Delaware hasn't produced nearly as many successful pro QBs as the Div I-A schools, but that doesn't mean it's outside the realm of possibility that Joe Flacco could actually be as good as, if not better than, Rich Gannon; Gannon has racked up 76 wins in 132 games as a starter (157 overall games played).

In 13 years with action as a starter (17 total years in the league), Gannon had a .500 or better record in 9 seasons.

[b]In other words, that Browns fan (no offense to other Browns fans), can take that sarcasm and get out of my face with that mess.[/b]

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='67626' date='Sep 22 2008, 01:09 PM']There [i]is[/i] some credence to the (sarcastic) talk of Delaware being QB U of Div I-AA.

Obviously, there haven't been many of them to find success in the NFL. But there have been QBs from Delaware who were at least good enough for NFL teams to select in the draft.

Rich Gannon, Joe Flacco, Scott Brunner, Andy Hall, and Jeff Komlo were the only 5 Delaware QBs to go to the NFL, and all 5 were drafted. All five had led Delaware to the playoffs and/or the national title game, and two of them quarterbacked national championship squads. In addition, former Blue Hens QB Matt Nagy has found success in the AFL and was the starter for the Georgia Force and the Columbus Destroyers when he led both teams to the Arena Bowl.

Granted, Delaware hasn't produced nearly as many successful pro QBs as the Div I-A schools, but that doesn't mean it's outside the realm of possibility that Joe Flacco could actually be as good as, if not better than, Rich Gannon; Gannon has racked up 76 wins in 132 games as a starter (157 overall games played).

In 13 years with action as a starter (17 total years in the league), Gannon had a .500 or better record in 9 seasons.

[b]In other words, that Browns fan (no offense to other Browns fans), can take that sarcasm and get out of my face with that mess.[/b][/quote]

And if they really want to talk all that smack on UD, they can give us back that interception in the end zone by Mike Adams, a former University of Delaware safety.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='67729' date='Sep 22 2008, 05:45 PM']And if they really want to talk all that smack on UD, they can give us back that interception in the end zone by Mike Adams, a former University of Delaware safety.[/quote]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that picked up that Delaware connection during the game.

I wish Mike Adams all the success in the world. He was the starting safety on the 2003 National Championship-winning Blue Hens squad, and I'll always love him for that.

But as long as he's a Cleveland Brown, I wish him all the success in the world only 14 out of 16 games a year.

[72Marshall]

[quote name='Tiz' post='67600' date='Sep 22 2008, 10:50 AM']We haven't proved we have a good team yet. We have a great defense and decent running game and an inconsistent passing game. We beat two teams that really are as woeful as we were last year so we haven't proved a whole lot other than we arent' the worse team in a down trotten division.

That said, if Flacco progresses as expected and the offense becomes more consistent we will be a good team but at this very point in time we are not.[/quote]

The same woeful team we beat yesterday is the same team that beat this woeful team last year, yet they were considered to be a good team even though they had a very soft schedule last year.

A 2-0 team is a good team regardless if we beat 2 0-3 teams. Bad teams don't go 2-0 to start the season and they beat 0-3 teams when they play them. Had we beat the Bengals then lost to the Browns then there would be a case to say we haven't done anything yet. Next week 2 teams that have won 2 games will go head to head yet the Steelers have a hurt qb and bad OL, if we beat them is it because they're a good team with weaknesses? Or is it because we are the better team?

I don't care who you play, if you have more wins then loses your a good team, you beat the teams your supposed to and you try to win more then you lose to the good teams.

[bengaaaaals1688]

[quote name='I*Bleed*Purple' post='67547' date='Sep 22 2008, 12:08 AM']I'm pretty sure he was being VERY sarcastic in his talk of Flacco. But that's okay, he wore out the Mighty Derek Anderson just after he wore out the Mighty Carson Palmer. Don't talk **** when you have yet to win a game.[/quote]

While you guys did a great job shutting down our entire offense, let alone Carson Palmer, I wouldn't go so far as to say Flacco "wore out" Carson Palmer. You're defense annihilated our offense, made us 0 dimensional, not even 1 dimensional, but Flacco didn't have anything to do with that, and to disrespect Carson with the sarcastic Might Carson Palmer thing, is all but ridiculous. Dude is at the very lowest a top 10 QB, and until this year was arguably a top 5 QB. Flacco may very well become a great QB, and he may very well end up being even better than Palmer (though I highly doubt it), but it was one game in which your defense stymied an offense that didn't get it turned on until this past week.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='67777' date='Sep 22 2008, 07:56 PM']While you guys did a great job shutting down our entire offense, let alone Carson Palmer, I wouldn't go so far as to say Flacco "wore out" Carson Palmer. You're defense annihilated our offense, made us 0 dimensional, not even 1 dimensional, but Flacco didn't have anything to do with that, and to disrespect Carson with the sarcastic Might Carson Palmer thing, is all but ridiculous. Dude is at the very lowest a top 10 QB, and until this year was arguably a top 5 QB. Flacco may very well become a great QB, and he may very well end up being even better than Palmer (though I highly doubt it), but it was one game in which your defense stymied an offense that didn't get it turned on until this past week.[/quote]
I have to respect your opinion on that Flacco has not put up a C. Palmer like showing yet but I see one coming soon.

[bengaaaaals1688]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='67781' date='Sep 22 2008, 07:03 PM']I have to respect your opinion on that Flacco has not put up a C. Palmer like showing yet but I see one coming soon. [/quote]

If he can put up a season like Carson Palmer, with the kind of offenses you guys have have the past few years, I will give him all the credit in the world because he will deserve it. However, I truly hope he doesn't because it's already bad enough that I can't objectively say that Palmer is better than Roethlisberger.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='67777' date='Sep 22 2008, 05:56 PM']While you guys did a great job shutting down our entire offense, let alone Carson Palmer, I wouldn't go so far as to say Flacco "wore out" Carson Palmer. Flacco didn't have anything to do with that, and to disrespect Carson with the sarcastic Might Carson Palmer thing, is all but ridiculous.[/quote]

Yeah, you're right. Flacco didn't have anything to do with that. He just ran the Offense efficiently enough to keep our Defense fresh enough to crush your Offense. Flacco's QB rating was 63.7. Not great by any stretch, but far better than the Mighty Carson Palmer's 32.4 that he managed to eek out. Go back to Cincinatti, please.

Oh, and Palmer managed those phenominal numbers throwing to two "Pro Bowl" crybabies....I mean WR's. Our only SOLID WR is Mason and he doesn't have the speed, youth, etc. that either of your two do.

[bengaaaaals1688]

[quote name='I*Bleed*Purple' post='67822' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:34 PM']Yeah, you're right. Flacco didn't have anything to do with that. He just ran the Offense efficiently enough to keep our Defense fresh enough to crush your Offense. Flacco's QB rating was 63.7. Not great by any stretch, but far better than the Mighty Carson Palmer's 32.4 that he managed to eek out. Go back to Cincinatti, please.[/quote]

Like I said... Your defense decimated our offense, maybe if I say decimated it will get through your head, but Flacco wasn't the reason for that. Not to mention the fact that it isn't as if we actually have a very good defense, we have an average-good defense that played decently against you. He completed just over 50% of his passes, it wasn't Flacco's running of the offense that kept your defense fresh, it was your running game that kept your defense fresh.

Do you really have to bug out over a statement I made that was really only my way of saying Flacco played better, but isn't yet better?? Honestly, is it truly that serious??

[I*Bleed*Purple]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='67825' date='Sep 22 2008, 07:40 PM']Like I said... Your defense decimated our offense, maybe if I say decimated it will get through your head, but Flacco wasn't the reason for that. Not to mention the fact that it isn't as if we actually have a very good defense, we have an average-good defense that played decently against you. He completed just over 50% of his passes, it wasn't Flacco's running of the offense that kept your defense fresh, it was your running game that kept your defense fresh.

Do you really have to bug out over a statement I made that was really only my way of saying Flacco played better, but isn't yet better?? Honestly, is it truly that serious??[/quote]

Yeah it is that serious. I'm sorry that your Savior had tampons sticking out of his nose. But please find another outlet.

[Tiz]

[quote name='72Marshall' post='67773' date='Sep 22 2008, 04:44 PM']The same woeful team we beat yesterday is the same team that beat this woeful team last year, yet they were considered to be a good team even though they had a very soft schedule last year.[/quote]

So they beat a woeful team last year and this year we beat a woeful team. How does that prove we are good? Right now we are beating on competition that is horrible. The Browns had one good year that doesn't make them good. Media hype doesn't make them good either.

[Ravenoid]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='67825' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:40 PM']Like I said... Your defense decimated our offense, maybe if I say decimated it will get through your head, but Flacco wasn't the reason for that. Not to mention the fact that it isn't as if we actually have a very good defense, we have an average-good defense that played decently against you. He completed just over 50% of his passes, it wasn't Flacco's running of the offense that kept your defense fresh, it was your running game that kept your defense fresh.

Do you really have to bug out over a statement I made that was really only my way of saying Flacco played better, but isn't yet better?? Honestly, is it truly that serious??[/quote]
Being a Ravens fan and a season ticket holder I love being at a game where we win. Many others on this thread are very emotionally attached to our beloved team. We're 2 and 0. Right now that's all that counts. What does the future hold? I don't realy know but for now we are 2 and 0. Can we win big with Flacco? YES. Pittsburgh did it with Big Ben only throwing 12 passes a game. When he won the Superbowl he averaged about 12 pass ATTEMPTs per game. You don't need a prolific passing attack to win just one that is good enough to keep the defense honest. I believe that Carson Palmer is one of the best QBs in football. He throws the most catchable pass with pinpoint accuracy. Even though Flacco has a looooong way to go we still love what we have. We are undefeated today.

[Tiz]

[quote name='Ravenoid' post='67843' date='Sep 22 2008, 07:17 PM']Being a Ravens fan and a season ticket holder I love being at a game where we win. Many others on this thread are very emotionally attached to our beloved team. We're 2 and 0. Right now that's all that counts.[/quote]


That is correct and I'm very happy that we've won every game. I'm also happy that our Defense is able to hold it down while we attempt to get the offense to gel and to become more consistent but that doesn't change the fact that there are still 14 more games to be played and I doubt anyone here can sit here and say without a doubt that you don't feel nervous in any game that our Defense some how gives up 17-20 points.

[Ravenoid]

[quote name='Tiz' post='67845' date='Sep 22 2008, 10:19 PM']That is correct and I'm very happy that we've won every game. I'm also happy that our Defense is able to hold it down while we attempt to get the offense to gel and to become more consistent but that doesn't change the fact that there are still 14 more games to be played and I doubt anyone here can sit here and say without a doubt that you don't feel nervous in any game that our Defense some how gives up 17-20 points.[/quote]
Tiz...enjoy the moment. You're the kind of guy that after his team wins the Superbowl say's "OK now does anyone feel good about our chances of repeating? It's never been done before you know?" Chill. We'll surprise some teams. I wanted a seasoned pro QB too but that didn't happen. I even got mad but it didn't help. This is an opportunity to test our metal and get behind the rook and convince this team that they can win!

[bengaaaaals1688]

[quote name='Ravenoid' post='67843' date='Sep 22 2008, 10:17 PM']Being a Ravens fan and a season ticket holder I love being at a game where we win. Many others on this thread are very emotionally attached to our beloved team. We're 2 and 0. Right now that's all that counts. What does the future hold? I don't realy know but for now we are 2 and 0. Can we win big with Flacco? YES. Pittsburgh did it with Big Ben only throwing 12 passes a game. When he won the Superbowl he averaged about 12 pass ATTEMPTs per game. You don't need a prolific passing attack to win just one that is good enough to keep the defense honest. I believe that Carson Palmer is one of the best QBs in football. He throws the most catchable pass with pinpoint accuracy. Even though Flacco has a looooong way to go we still love what we have. We are undefeated today.[/quote]

I don't blame you at all for believing in your team and loving what you have. If I was you I'd feel the exact same way, unfortunately I'm on the other end of the stick, and it hurts a lot more. My only point was the same point I make every time someone says this QB beat that QB, no QB beats any QB. Defenses are the ones who play against the QB, defenses are the ones who stop the QB, and defenses are the ones who beat the QB's. One QB can play better than the other, but that QB didn't beat the other one, it's a team game, not a QB game.

[Tiz]

[quote name='Ravenoid' post='67853' date='Sep 22 2008, 07:33 PM']Tiz...enjoy the moment. You're the kind of guy that after his team wins the Superbowl say's "OK now does anyone feel good about our chances of repeating? It's never been done before you know?" Chill. We'll surprise some teams. I wanted a seasoned pro QB too but that didn't happen. I even got mad but it didn't help. This is an opportunity to test our metal and get behind the rook and convince this team that they can win![/quote]
Yes I'm the type of guy that thinks the only SB that matters is the next one we win. I think you have to be, I like how the Giants are treating this year I like how the 49ers viewed the year after they would win and I like how Pat Riley at a parade for the Lakers after winning the Championship would set the goal for the next season as to Repeat. After winning you give the players some time off then you come back and look at how the team can improve and maintain the championship desire...