David Garrard Released

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1315344845' post='779227']

Because if you keep shooting at enough of them eventually you'll hit. If you get the #1 pick, your taking luck no matter who your QB is. Bengals, Minnesota, Carolina, Jags even though they have young QBs they drafted, would still draft Luck. He's a special player.

The Jags will give Gabbert a chance to play this season no doubt.
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Eh, I suppose... that's a pretty terrible draft strategy though. Although, I guess with the new rookie wage scale, you can afford to do that.

[RavensAllTheWay]

Well Marcedes Lewis and every other Jag (expect MJD) just had they're fantasy value drop.....I got Marcedes...didn't expect this.

[SecretAgentMan]

More points for MJD then in my fantasy league.

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1315346825' post='779298']

Pittsburgh has Dixon + Leftwich/Batch. I wouldn't mind Garrard + Taylor, with TT getting the 2nd team reps in practice, and the coaches decide who's more capable of replacing Flacco, if he's injured.

It may sound heartless, but the primary concern isn't to develop TT into a starting QB. Joe Flacco is too young to ever consider TT as a starter in Baltimore, absent a catastrophic injury to Flacco. They aren't in "competition" unless Flacco drastically plummets in his capability. It's like NE with Ryan Mallett. A backup QB they didn't need, with Brian Hoyer playing well as a backup - but Belicheck will trade Mallett after he develops for a high draft pick - exactly as he did with Cassell.

Like I said, it sound heartless, but the FO is about winning, first - and everything else is secondary.
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I can see your point alittle. But what I'm getting at is, with all the looks he is gonna get from other teams, he will command 3-4mil a year, think we all agree with that. Your saying give Tyrod second team looks and have a 3rd string making 3-4 mil? Ontop of that, we drafted Tyrod as an "accent" to flacco, or somene who could potentially step in if flacco went down, its why we spent a draft pick on him. All I'm saying is, if hes brought in, he will be #2 hands down, and honestly I dont think tyrod is "that" far off from being able to do that this year... at a much much cheaper price. when we first drafted him, I could see him as a pure developmental player (#3) on a roster, but he has exceeded expectations. At this point, Im torn with this. One part of me says I think Tyrod is capable, and another part of me says David would be a decent pick up. I just cant see us spending that money on a QB who doesnt know our system, and would be starting from scratch basically anyway.... I can see us talking Bulger out of retirement for 2-3mil before I can see us making a move for Gerard... by the time he would be ready to step in... I think tyrod would have enough reps with the second team.. to be able to do the same thing .

[mhead66]

[quote name='organizedchaos007' timestamp='1315352459' post='779438']
I can see your point alittle. But what I'm getting at is, with all the looks he is gonna get from other teams, he will command 3-4mil a year, think we all agree with that. Your saying give Tyrod second team looks and have a 3rd string making 3-4 mil? Ontop of that, we drafted Tyrod as an "accent" to flacco, or somene who could potentially step in if flacco went down, its why we spent a draft pick on him. All I'm saying is, if hes brought in, he will be #2 hands down, and honestly I dont think tyrod is "that" far off from being able to do that this year... at a much much cheaper price. when we first drafted him, I could see him as a pure developmental player (#3) on a roster, but he has exceeded expectations. At this point, Im torn with this. One part of me says I think Tyrod is capable, and another part of me says David would be a decent pick up. I just cant see us spending that money on a QB who doesnt know our system, and would be starting from scratch basically anyway.... I can see us talking Bulger out of retirement for 2-3mil before I can see us making a move for Gerard... by the time he would be ready to step in... I think tyrod would have enough reps with the second team.. to be able to do the same thing .
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That's a good point, and I'd only advocate signing Garrard for cheap, no more than $2 million, max. He's not even as good as Bulger, IMO. It's just that many Ravens fans are nervous with only one backup, and him as a rookie. Tyrod has exceeded all expectations for a 6th rounder, certainly. We just haven't seen him go against #1 defenses, in crucial situations - like a drive in the last 2 minutes to tie a game. He may be capable, we just don't know - yet. And the Ravens are a Super Bowl contender, and I'd hate to lose a winnable game, if Flacco was just out for the rest of a game, or just 1 week. We tied Pittsburgh at 12-4 last year, it was that close - so 1 game can make a huge difference.

I'm really on the fence - I can see both sides... I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions for the team...

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1315353005' post='779445']
That's a good point, and I'd only advocate signing Garrard for cheap, no more than $2 million, max. He's not even as good as Bulger, IMO. It's just that many Ravens fans are nervous with only one backup, and him as a rookie. Tyrod has exceeded all expectations for a 6th rounder, certainly. We just haven't seen him go against #1 defenses, in crucial situations - like a drive in the last 2 minutes to tie a game. He may be capable, we just don't know - yet. And the Ravens are a Super Bowl contender, and I'd hate to lose a winnable game, if Flacco was just out for the rest of a game, or just 1 week. We tied Pittsburgh at 12-4 last year, it was that close - so 1 game can make a huge difference.

I'm really on the fence - I can see both sides... I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions for the team...[img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png[/img]
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haha good call, altho at times id love to make some decisions around here lol. But true, one game can make a difference. And I agree with you, it is slightly nerve racking thinking about only having joe and tyrod as our QBs. But when i look at that, and your comment about tyrod facing 1st team defenses, I also think about him being with our first team offense and all the weapons, and a Oline that is considerably better than our second team. So I think that would balance out.

[mhead66]

[quote name='organizedchaos007' timestamp='1315353326' post='779450']
haha good call, altho at times id love to make some decisions around here lol. But true, one game can make a difference. And I agree with you, it is slightly nerve racking thinking about only having joe and tyrod as our QBs. But when i look at that, and your comment about tyrod facing 1st team defenses, [b]I also think about him being with our first team offense and all the weapons, and a Oline that is considerably better than our second team[/b]. So I think that would balance out.
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Thta's true, but can you imagine the situation, if Tyrod comes in and leads a huge comeback victory? Just like with Troy Smith and Boller, we'd have a full-blown QB controversy, again!

I don't see it happening, though... Flacco hasn't missed a game in his 3 year career, and I hope it stays that way!

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1315355412' post='779485']
Thta's true, but can you imagine the situation, if Tyrod comes in and leads a huge comeback victory? Just like with Troy Smith and Boller, we'd have a full-blown QB controversy, again! [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png[/img]

I don't see it happening, though... Flacco hasn't missed a game in his 3 year career, and I hope it stays that way!
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yea I dont see a controversy with joe lol. But ya know, I kinda equate the whole tyrod thing.. to the reason Dixon almost beat us his first start for Pittsburgh, in baltimore. We had NO idea what to expect, there was little - no game tape on him. And he almost beat us with his feet. I think tyrod coming into a game would be a HUGE prob for opposing defenses.

[MagicianCamille]

Can't really criticize the move to be honest. Not like having Garrard at QB is a lot better than someone unproven. Might as well save some money.

[mhead66]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' timestamp='1315359647' post='779540']
Can't really criticize the move to be honest. Not like having Garrard at QB is a lot better than someone unproven. [b]Might as well save some money.[/b]
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IF you were saving the money to spend it upgrading the team elsewhere. I think the Jags' owner is just pocketing it...

[Doctor Who?]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1315343818' post='779194']
Any chance we bring him in as our veteran backup? He's beaten the Steelers when it's mattered... that's a plus in my book lol.
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as much as it pains me to say it, you guys would be better off with bulger than garrad

[PuRock]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1315351957' post='779428']
More points for MJD then in my fantasy league.
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With no real vertical threat. Teams will be stacking the box even more. MJD is going to find it tough to get yards or to find his team in the red zone. IMO it actually decreases MJD. The real value increase for MJD is when Jennings went down for the year.

[mhead66]

According to Jason LaCanfora, Garrard wants a chance to start, and could possibly get that at the 49ers, Raiders or the Dolphins. I'm guessing it's one of those three, but the article says that the Ravens and the Saints are looking at him as a backup... but he doesn't want to be a backup.

[url="http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/07/agent-two-offers-for-garrard-should-come-soon/"]http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/07/agent-two-offers-for-garrard-should-come-soon/[/url]