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Possible Players We Will Sign From Other Teams' Cuts

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To eliminate separate threads about every interesting possibility, I figured I'd start a thread about players who we think the Ravens [b]might[/b] be interested in:

I'll list a few:

TE Desmond Clark, CHI
DE Igor Olshansky, DAL
CB Nathan Vasher, DET
LB Xavier Adibi, HOU
RB Steve Slaton, HOU
DT Tommie Harris, IND
CB Will Allen, MIA
WR Brandon Tate, NE
S Marlin Jackson, PHIL
WR Sinorce Moss, PHIL
WR Justin Gage, TN
S Vince Fuller, TN
OT Pat McQuinstan, TN

and...

QB Brodie Croyle, ARIZ
QB Dan Lefevour, CIN
QB Josh McCown, SF
QB Dan Orlovsky, IND

[b]NOT[/b] a whole lot out there... especially OLinemen. And, many of these players are yesterday's news. But I think Olshansky may be worth looking at.
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Brandon Meriweather would be beautiful beside Ed Reed, but we already have 3 capable safeties. However, talent over need any day and if you can pickup a young pro-bowler (made it to the probowl in 2009 and 2010) I don't see how we could pass on a guy this talented. Chances are he would prefer to sign with another team, but I think we have to at least take a look and make him an offer.
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[quote name='latenighthero' timestamp='1315107699' post='776395']
Brandon Meriweather would be beautiful beside Ed Reed, but we already have 3 capable safeties. However, talent over need any day and if you can pickup a young pro-bowler (made it to the probowl in 2009 and 2010) I don't see how we could pass on a guy this talented. Chances are he would prefer to sign with another team, but I think we have to at least take a look and make him an offer.
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Way overrated and BB had no need for him, gotta mean something! No thanks! Prime example (and LeRon McClain) where probowls mean squat!
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1315108070' post='776401']
Way overrated and BB had no need for him, gotta mean something! No thanks! Prime example (and LeRon McClain) where probowls mean squat!
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I understand picking up castaways from teams that have a history of misanaging talent, i.e Bills, Bengals, Raiders, Seattle, etc. But I don't understand why people want to take the castaways from teams like the Patriots or Steelers.

If they don't want them, I sure as hell don't. Let's leave some other team to overvalue Merriweather and Tate.
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[quote name='Xxx52xxX' timestamp='1315108426' post='776406']
I expect the eagles to sign every single player on that list.
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Unless they are olinemen, safeties or LBs (their obvious deficiencies).....they just simply signed (and overpaid) every big name! Babin to that contract? Nnamdi when you have DRC and Samuel already? IDIOTS!!
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1315108328' post='776405']

I understand picking up castaways from teams that have a history of misanaging talent, i.e Bills, Bengals, Raiders, Seattle, etc. But I don't understand why people want to take the castaways from teams like the Patriots or Steelers.

If they don't want them, I sure as hell don't. Let's leave some other team to overvalue Merriweather and Tate.
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I don't know - another way to look at it is, the better teams may have so much quality at one position, that a person they cut is more talented than those at that position on a marginal team.

For example, it's likely that Bynes, Burgess and/or Gooden could be better than the Bengals' 6th LB... I'm guessing that at least one or two of our cuts will get claimed. Oniel Cousins was picked up by Cleveland, and I haven't seen that they released him - I believe he made their final 53... yet we had no use for him.

But, if I was Ozzie, I'd agree with you, in almost all cases. I'd rather have Bynes on our roster than pick up any other LB I've seen on the waiver wire... and I think he'll certainly be on the practice squad, if he goes unclaimed.
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IF we didn't have Pollard we would be all over Meriweather just because he is a better talent than Tom Zbikowski. I would of loved it but I think Pollard will be a very solid box safety.
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[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1315099273' post='776260']
To eliminate separate threads about every interesting possibility, I figured I'd start a thread about players who we think the Ravens [b]might[/b] be interested in:

I'll list a few:

TE Desmond Clark, CHI
DE Igor Olshansky, DAL
CB Nathan Vasher, DET
LB Xavier Adibi, HOU
RB Steve Slaton, HOU
DT Tommie Harris, IND
CB Will Allen, MIA
WR Brandon Tate, NE
S Marlin Jackson, PHIL
WR Sinorce Moss, PHIL
WR Justin Gage, TN
S Vince Fuller, TN
OT Pat McQuinstan, TN

and...

QB Brodie Croyle, ARIZ
QB Dan Lefevour, CIN
QB Josh McCown, SF
QB Dan Orlovsky, IND

[b]NOT[/b] a whole lot out there... especially OLinemen. And, many of these players are yesterday's news. But I think Olshansky may be worth looking at.
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We have no need for a WR, TE, S nor a CB IMO. Which eliminates most of this list. It is hard to say what we will do at the QB position. I really think it depends on how badly Taylor is injured. If he can be ready to go by Week 1, even if not 100%, then I think we will still stay with him at #2 instead of using up a roster spot. Especially if the rumor is true that Bulger has said he is a phone call away if Flacco does get injured.

I can see us possibly picking up an OL if the FO sees someone they really like.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1315108328' post='776405']

I understand picking up castaways from teams that have a history of misanaging talent, i.e Bills, Bengals, Raiders, Seattle, etc. But I don't understand why people want to take the castaways from teams like the Patriots or Steelers.

If they don't want them, I sure as hell don't. Let's leave some other team to overvalue Merriweather and Tate.
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I agree, but in the case of Tate, it could be a situation where he just no longer fit there team.

He was there best return guy, and with the new Kick Off, that area of his game will be taken away.

From an offensive stand point, the Pats have never been a "Vertical Passing" team. Even with Moss their offense wasn't designed around the vertical pass, they just had one of the best in the NFL to take advantage of that area.

The Pats are more of the spread you horizontally and beat you with quick passes. Guys like Welker, Elderman, Chad, and their 2 young TEs fit that role really well. Plus you have backs coming out of the backfield who can catch.

Brandon Tate is vertical guy. He's more like Deshawn Jackson then Wes Welker. I'm not saying he's as talented as either guy, just comparing style of play.

Brandon Tate is still young enough to define his career with another team, Tate lead the Pats with 18.0 yards per catch last season, but again, that's not something the Pats put a lot of stock into.

On the other hand the Ravens would love a guy like that. I don't think we will take a shot at him, but he's clearly the type of guy the Ravens looked to add to this offense.

I don't see the Ravens adding him, but I wouldn't be neither surprised nor upset with his addition.
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[quote name='Juviebest' timestamp='1315123545' post='776482']
Meriweather tried to kill Heap twice last year. He's a cheap shot artist...no place for that on our team.
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Yeah, but he would be the perfect antidote for dirty Hines Ward!!! Seriously though I think Pollard is awesome for us...
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If LaQuan wasn't such a pleasant surprise and Marcus Smith had made the team as our 6th WR I could see us cutting Smith and trying to sign Tate. Tate returned 2 kicks for touchdowns last year.
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I would actually like us to sign Vasher (if healthy) and drop Foxworth s salary so we can get some depth and cap space.
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We might take a look at Geoff Hangartner for Birk insurance, Ryan Cook for OL depth, or Trent Edwards. Or perhaps a PS QB to groom instead of either Cantwell or a guy who lost the backup job to our boy Boller. Graham Harrell comes to mind. Green Bay tends to get the QB thing right.
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1315145517' post='776535']
I'm hoping for Kelley Washington... but I know it won't happen.
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Why?! So we can get [i]yet another [/i]stop gap, old, vet WR to delay the development of our young WRs? At least you admit it won't happen.
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[quote name='pigskinner' timestamp='1315145857' post='776539']
We might take a look at Geoff Hangartner for Birk insurance, Ryan Cook for OL depth, or Trent Edwards. Or perhaps a PS QB to groom instead of either Cantwell or a guy who lost the backup job to our boy Boller. Graham Harrell comes to mind. Green Bay tends to get the QB thing right.
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We have Birk insurance, see Bryan Mattison.

I do want OL depth, but I think we need a guard more than a tackle.

I want a vet QB, but only if it's good value.
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I like Brandon Meriweather coming to the Ravens because I think he'll do better here than he would anywhere else. If Brandon could come sit a year behind Ed and learn from him, he could really improve I think. I do like Haruki and Zibby, but you can't pass up a former pro bowler, especially if he'll come cheap. Additionally, the draft has been short on safeties the last few years and it would be a good idea to stock up on talent.
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[quote name='AlaskanRavensFan' timestamp='1315149204' post='776570']
I like Brandon Meriweather coming to the Ravens because I think he'll do better here than he would anywhere else. If Brandon could come sit a year behind Ed and learn from him, he could really improve I think. I do like Haruki and Zibby, but you can't pass up a former pro bowler, especially if he'll come cheap. Additionally, the draft has been short on safeties the last few years and it would be a good idea to stock up on talent.
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I agree that he would probably be a good talent with ed and ray there but he wouldn't come cheap and he wouldn't be a back up. Like people have said, if Pollard wasnt here, Ozzie would of called him in a second because he is miles better than Zibby or Ruki.
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1315108328' post='776405']


I understand picking up castaways from teams that have a history of misanaging talent, i.e Bills, Bengals, Raiders, Seattle, etc. But I don't
understand why people want to take the castaways from teams like the Patriots or Steelers.
If they don't want them, I sure as hell don't. Let's leave some other team to overvalue Merriweather and Tate.

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Both Tate and meriweather are still young players. Just because the patriots or steelers release a player doesn't mean they are finished. ( pats released/ traded Seymour , A.Samuel ( they have been productive). Steelers have laundry list like rod Woodson, k.Greene , Chad brown that have been let go and still been productive players.
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For everyone that was in favor of the youth movement, i dont really see why we would want to sign anyone on this list. We have a very solid team with so much young talent that i dont want any veterans taking their playing time. We have our final 53, now we need to make our practice squad and get those guys progressing as well and we're going to be a team everyone, including pittsburgh, will be scared to play starting this year
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1315108328' post='776405']

I understand picking up castaways from teams that have a history of misanaging talent, i.e Bills, Bengals, Raiders, Seattle, etc. But I don't understand why people want to take the castaways from teams like the Patriots or Steelers.

If they don't want them, I sure as hell don't. Let's leave some other team to overvalue Merriweather and Tate.
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Very well said. Teams that do things the right way (Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Eagles etc.) barring a salary cap issue, release a guy for a reason. Meriweather is a HUGE liability in the running game and his skills as a deep safety arent that great.
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