Realistic Expectations For Doss Playing Time

[neoi78]

How much should I really plan on seeing Tandon Doss on gamedays? Will it simply depend on the playcalling? Is it political.. does Torrey then need a first come because of 2nd round draft pick? What if Torrey is the worst WR on the team?

I've always believed in the best players on the field. Now, under most circumstances, I believe WR-wise it would be Boldin, Evans, and Doss. Then Reed, Then Torrey, Then Williams.

Now the Doss/Reed is actually a switch up, depending on what packages you want, if you want to stretch the field (Reed), or have Doss SNATCH a ball on 3rd and 4.

I just hope politicalness (is that a word?) doesnt play into Torrey seeing more playing time then Doss, who clearly at this point is more of a threat on the field of play. I hope Torrey gets better, but I think he needs time to develop better hands at this level.. and leaving that body catchin tendency behind. Doss can simply SNATCH the ball... like superglue is on his hands. His hands are a gift from God and we should make the most of that gift! LOL

Your thoughts?

[Ed_Reed20]

How often Cam calls three and four-wide sets will obviously play a factor. Just the presence of Torrey and Reed will cut it into Doss' snap-count. And even though they're TEs, Dickson and Pitta have shown enough receiving potential to warrant significant combined snaps as well.

As of right now, I'm going to say Doss sees the most snaps at WR after Q and Evans.

[*kid_chaos100*]

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How much should I really plan on seeing Tandon Doss on gamedays? Will it simply depend on the playcalling? Is it political.. does Torrey then need a first come because of 2nd round draft pick? What is Torrey is the worst WR on the team?

I've always believed in the best players on the field. Now, under most circumstances, I believe WR-wise it would be Boldin, Evans, and Doss. Then Reed, Then Torrey, Then Williams.

Now the Doss/Reed is actually a switch up, depending on what packages you want, if you want to stretch the field (Reed), or have Doss SNATCH a ball on 3rd and 4.

I just hope politicalness (is that a word?) doesnt play into Torrey seeing more playing time then Doss, who clearly at this point is more of a threat on the field of play. I hope Torrey gets better, but I think he needs time to develop better hands at this level.. and leaving that body catchin tendency behind. Doss can simply SNATCH the ball... like superglue is on his hands. His hands are a gift from God and we should make the most of that gift! LOL

Your thoughts?
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I agree with you man.... Amen to that! LOL!! But really, Torrey does need more practice with his hands...he dropped way to many balls in college and now, hes bringing it to Baltimore! I still think that he is an elite WR though.... And Doss...... WOW!! He deserves to be a playmaker on the Ravens WR Depth Chart. I think that Reed And Him will switch up on drives on the #3 spot... but overall your are 100% right!

[scrock]

I really hope they give David Reed some looks on gameday as well, so between Q, Evans, Dickson, Pitta, and Ray Rice...I'd say Doss and David Reed will not see that many looks. As stated above it depends on how many times we go into 3 wide sets..if they can make 2 or 3 nice plays a game that'd be about right...some games maybe more..maybe less

[Purple Punishment]

I too am a believer that politics of who was drafted before who, shouldn't determine who sees the field more. Especially if you are being completely outperformed by someone who was drafted later than you. I believe Tandon Doss will split #3 receiver duties with David Reed, but Doss will see more snaps than Reed.

Our team has been guilty of this and just not giving the #3 or 4 WRs many snaps. Made us pretty bland on offense if you ask me.

Torrey is a project and I dont think he will bear any fruit until later in the season or next season. Doss was more NFL ready.....plus hes a Super Hero!

[cursona pirate]

For some reason I think he won't get much.
To be honest.

[RoflDogs]

Little to none. He's going to be our #4 receiver, and we don't spread it out like some teams such as the Packers or Saints (which makes no sense to me, as I could easily see Joe doing very well in a spread offense)

In all likelihood, Pitta sees more time than Doss

[Crabcakes&Football]

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I agree with you man.... Amen to that! LOL!! But really, Torrey does need more practice with his hands...he dropped way to many balls in college and now, hes bringing it to Baltimore! I still think that he is an elite WR though.... And Doss...... WOW!! He deserves to be a playmaker on the Ravens WR Depth Chart. I think that Reed And Him will switch up on drives on the #3 spot... but overall your are 100% right!
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Did you just call Torrey Smith an elite WR?

[RivenHale]

I think (hope) he meant elite-to-be or elite prospect. No one who isn't drinking is calling Torrey Smith an elite WR right now.

[scrock]

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Did you just call Torrey Smith an elite WR?
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i think he meant he thinks Torrey can be an elite WR.....he's obviously not right now

[Ravenseconbeast]

Tandon Doss and Pernell Mcphee are absolute steal.

Realistically, I see Tandon Doss taking 1/3rd of Anquan Boldin position, and David Reed taking few reps from Lee Evans position. The key factor really is Flacco being able to keep drives alive and having our O-line stable to see enough action in the offense. If not, we wont see much of anything, and it'll be the same 800/800/300 yard distribution for #1,2,3 as last year.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

I think he should be the number 3 WR so I hope to see quite a lot of him. I figure he'll get about 30 catches for the year, similar to what Housh got last year. He could become Joe's go-to guy on third downs if he hits the ground running.

[AsianRice]

We are offically having the truely legitimate deepthreat, so everything will pan out well. Q, Doss, Reed, Dickson, and Rice should have x2 reception than last year. Their stock is rising......

Like I said awhile ago, Doss is a younger version of Boldin.....

Torrey needs to practice to catching the ball consistently. If he can overcomes that, he'll be another deepthreat cuz generally he can get separation against any good corner....

PS: I think Joe is secretly smiling in a corner......

[Ravens1991]

I think he should play the role Kelly Wasington and TJ Housh played in past seasons. He is perfect for that role.

[Corvus]

As of right now, its looking like he and Reed have narrowed down the 3rd wideout to one of them, I would imagine both, and to a lesser degree Torrey will be involved in a decent amount of snaps throughout the season. I expect we'll see a lot of them week 1 when we spread out the Steelers' weak secondary.

[T3hRaven]

Doss has shown more than Torrey or Reed during the pre-season, and all reports about him catching in camp are positive. Going by the numbers, he should be the third receiver. Unfortunately, I think Torrey will be getting the majority of the snaps as the third receiver simply because he was drafted higher. Really, Torrey should be sixth on the depth chart behind Williams.

[FerrariFan87]

I'd like to see him get around 15-20 plays a game.

[organizedchaos007]

I like Smith personally, he has some potential and hes a great character guy. However... I think Doss will be a better reciever in the NFL, and I said that the second we drafted him. I personally think Doss will get the 3rd down looks when we get into 3 wr sets, and I believe Reed will have 1st/2nd down opportunities in 3 wide sets.

Either way you look at it, you have to feel good about Reed, OR Doss being our 3rd reciever, both bring unique qualities to our passing attack.

[PuRock]

I have to start seeing him more with the first team before I start predicting how many snaps he'll see. How many snaps has he been with the first team on so far this PS? I don't recall it being very many.

[AsianRice]

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I have to start seeing him more with the first team before I start predicting how many snaps he'll see. How many snaps has he been with the first team on so far this PS? I don't recall it being very many.
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cuz the coaches want Torrey to bloom into fast reliable reciever but after 3 PS games, I'll bet coach will insert Doss/Reed into the 3/4th set wr formation.

[Gordo52]

Joe Flacco wanted Doss so I think he'll be out there alot

[latenighthero]

The thing that is being overlooked is that Doss is a lot more "NFL ready" than Torrey is. I think that is partially why Torrey is seeing more reps in the preseason because the coaches believe that he needs more work and likely Doss will see more action during the season. The reason why Torrey was drafted higher than Doss was because they believe he has more potential and therefore they are investing more into him because they think he can/will be the better player. I'm not sure if that's considered politics or not, but that's just a smart move at this point.

I will guarentee you 100% that when it's crunch time whoever is performing better will see action.

[*kid_chaos100*]

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Did you just call Torrey Smith an elite WR?
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Yes i did.... I think he is an elite WR.... all he does is drop passes.... which I agree is not good, but... he is elite. He has shown it in college that he is a good WR. Why would the Ravens Organization draft him if he wasnt good? They must of knew that he dropped balls in college, and they knew that he was a good Wide out. All their going to do is work with him with his hand co-ordination.. but him being an elite WR..... is just my opinion...................

[1/28/01]

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I still think that he WILL become an elite WR..... he has shown it in college, but all he does is drop passes.... If he fixes that he WILL become an elite WR..... thats hust my opinion... :l
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And if Gholston gets sacks, he's a pro bowler

Sorry, had to.....

[Perfekt]

Did everyone forget who our OC is again? I don't see Doss getting much playing time at all this year. Reed due to being here longer will most likely get those snaps over Doss. I could see Smith getting the 4th spot based off potential. If Doss was going to get a chance to compete you would have seen him get more chances with the 1st team.

Don't get me wrong because I love Doss an even back when we did the draft posted he would be better then Smith but I also have come to learn how Cams system is.

[Ed_Reed20]

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Did everyone forget who our OC is again? I don't see Doss getting much playing time at all this year. Reed due to being here longer will most likely get those snaps over Doss. I could see Smith getting the 4th spot based off potential. If Doss was going to get a chance to compete you would have seen him get more chances with the 1st team.

Don't get me wrong because I love Doss an even back when we did the draft posted he would be better then Smith but I also have come to learn how Cams system is.
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The presence of the other WRs and TEs will put more of a cap on Doss' playing time than Cam's system in my opinion.

[Perfekt]

That is true but also it comes down to Cam calling his number which if you look at our past doesn't look likely. Its been 4 years and I still have not seen that 2 TE set that he promised us. I'm sorry if I come off negative its just that Cam to me just doesn't get how to utilize the talent around him to its full potential.

[The Raven]

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Yes i did.... I think he is an elite WR.... all he does is drop passes.... which I agree is not good, but... he is elite. He has shown it in college that he is a good WR. Why would the Ravens Organization draft him if he wasnt good? They must of knew that he dropped balls in college, and they knew that he was a good Wide out. All their going to do is work with him with his hand co-ordination.. but him being an elite WR..... is just my opinion...................
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Well obviously we thought he was good. He needs to work on his hands and route running. Unfortunately, you either got hands or you don't, or at least that my experience. There's no secret NFL drill that NFL coaches can make you do that will make you catch better. I'm sure his college coaches, and his HS coaches have tried to work on his hands. Route running is something that can improve, as that's more of a mental thing thing, at least compared to catching. He's never had to be a good route runner because of his speed, but in the NFL, everyone's fast.

He's not elite. Elite WRs tend to be starters... If Torrey is elite than so is Mark Clayton.