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Wow...Skip Bayless On First Take Right Now...Talking About Joe Flacco

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Just put Suggs on blast on ESPN said some steelers have told him that SOME ravens have expressed to them after games and in the off season that they don't have faith in Joe in big games. The question obviously caught T-sizzle off guard and he said that's why those Ravens are no longer here. Suggs then quickly tried to change the subject to Lebron. He did say he has absolute confidence in Flacco to win a Superbowl and pointed to Eli finally getting on a role his superbowl year.

After skip and Rob parker went to the debate desk and debated the Ravens chances of winning with Flacco...Skip said they can't..ecspecially if we have a big playoff game which requires Joe to have to throw the ball down the field a lot...Rob said of course we can win with him and then pointed out Trent dilfer and Brad Johnson.

But I thought the Suggs piece was kinda awkward...who could he have been talking about that is no longer here based on their lack of confidence in Joe..Mason? Heap?
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1314372462' post='767270']
Its skip. Blah-blah-blah.
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What about Suggs comment ?
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its espn what do you expect they all said the giants would run rough shot over us in tampa they were wrong then they are wrong now
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314372524' post='767271']
What about Suggs comment ?
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I think your reading into what he said too much. Like you said he was caught off guard. The Ravens didn't cut Heap and Mason because they didn't have confidence in Joe. It was a business move. We barely got under the cap and needed other pieces.
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Skip Bayless is a blowhard and Steelers apologist, I don't take anything he says seriously.

Re: Suggs - What else do you expect him to say? I don't have a problem with his comments.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314372524' post='767271']
What about Suggs comment ?
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I find it HARD to believe that any Ravens players would have taken comfort in speaking to any Steeler about their level of confidence with anyone in OUR organization! Thats just an analyst "fishing", IMO.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314372524' post='767271']
What about Suggs comment ?
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He was probably just caught off guard and wanted to answer quickly and kind of snide. Probably didn't like the question, at least that's how I took it. I wouldn't appreciate the question either.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314372524' post='767271']
What about Suggs comment ?
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Terrell Suggs also said he did cocaine and that he got off of it to have a successful 2010.

He's a joker. Anything more and I'd be surprised.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1314372731' post='767284']

Terrell Suggs also said he did cocaine and that he got off of it to have a successful 2010.

He's a joker. Anything more and I'd be surprised.
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Did he just say that now during first take? If so, too funny.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314372192' post='767259']
Just put Suggs on blast on ESPN said some steelers have told him that SOME ravens have expressed to them after games and in the off season that they don't have faith in Joe in big games. The question obviously caught T-sizzle off guard and he said that's why those Ravens are no longer here. Suggs then quickly tried to change the subject to Lebron. He did say he has absolute confidence in Flacco to win a Superbowl and pointed to Eli finally getting on a role his superbowl year.

After skip and Rob parker went to the debate desk and debated the Ravens chances of winning with Flacco...Skip said they can't..ecspecially if we have a big playoff game which requires Joe to have to throw the ball down the field a lot...Rob said of course we can win with him and then pointed out Trent dilfer and Brad Johnson.

But I thought the Suggs piece was kinda awkward...[b]who could he have been talking about that is no longer here based on their lack of confidence in Joe[/b]..Mason? Heap?
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Bart Scott openly talked about how he thought Troy Smith should have been the starter when he was with the team. Heap wouldn't say anything. And while Mason can get agitated, and outspoken... he always defended Flacco. So the obvious choice is Bart Scott. But also, for this particular segment you are talking about... Skip Bayless probably just completely fabricated the whole thing. I doubt any Ravens talked directly to him or anyone he knows.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1314372710' post='767280']


I find it HARD to believe that any Ravens players would have taken comfort in speaking to any Steeler about their level of confidence with anyone in OUR organization! Thats just an analyst "fishing", IMO.
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I don't find it hard to believe...some of these players are ex college teammates...former NFL teammates..have the same agents and things....there are tons of talk when the games aren't going...we the fans tend to think they have to walk around hating each other like we do. I'm pretty sure there have been some players to express that to other players in the league..I don't always agree with Skip but I doubt he says that without there being some truth in it.
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Keep in mind Skip Bayless is the same guy who said the Eagles can only win a Super-Bowl with Vince Young as their QB.
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[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1314373023' post='767301']
Keep in mind Skip Bayless is the same guy who said the Eagles can only win a Super-Bowl with Vince Young as their QB.
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He said.... what?! Wow, didn't know that. What credibility does this guy have again?
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[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1314373023' post='767301']
Keep in mind Skip Bayless is the same guy who said the Eagles can only win a Super-Bowl with Vince Young as their QB.
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Just watch this happen.
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If players have said it and it's a big if, Willis and LeRon both strike me as having pretty big mouths and feeling underutilized an D-Mase isn't exactly the kind of guy to keep his own counsel about such matters especially if it was after a loss. I'd be fairly confident in ruling out Heap.

As for questioning Flacco's ability to win games going deep, it shows why people like Skip Bayless are paid to talk rather than think. Despite never having had any weapons Joe's as good at anyone throwing deep. It's the drive maintenance that is more of a problem.
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1314372836' post='767290']


Bart Scott openly talked about how he thought Troy Smith should have been the starter when he was with the team. Heap wouldn't say anything. And while Mason can get agitated, and outspoken... he always defended Flacco. So the obvious choice is Bart Scott. But alpso, for this particular segment you are talking about... Skip Bayless probably just completely fabricated the whole thing. I doubt any Ravens talked directly to him or anyone he knows.
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Only thing I could think of is Ryan Clark is always on the show...always debating Skip...I'm pretty sure any info that he got about the situation came from Ryan
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314373003' post='767297']
I don't find it hard to believe...some of these players are ex college teammates...former NFL teammates..have the same agents and things....there are tons of talk when the games aren't going...we the fans tend to think they have to walk around hating each other like we do. I'm pretty sure there have been some players to express that to other players in the league..I don't always agree with Skip but I doubt he says that without there being some truth in it.
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Maybe, but its very doubtful talks about lacking confidence in your starting QB EVER happened between any Steeler and any Raven (other than Bart, as mentioned above).
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[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1314372820' post='767289']

Did he just say that now during first take? If so, too funny.
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I think it was on NFLN but it was good when he said it.

Seriously, who is getting worried about what Skip Bayless says? Or what "some Steelers" told him?
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Skip is entertaining, but his opinions are worthless. This is the same guy who thinks Tim Tebow and Vince Young are elite quarterbacks in this league instead of scrubs who can't play the position. I really don't think he understands NFL football, he's far too enamored with college stars.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1314373256' post='767320']


I think it was on NFLN but it was good when he said it.

Seriously, who is getting worried about what Skip Bayless says? Or what "some Steelers" told him?
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well skip is obviously doing his job
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1314373256' post='767320']


I think it was on NFLN but it was good when he said it.

Seriously, who is getting worried about what Skip Bayless says? Or what "some Steelers" told him?
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Simple.......bc if true it might be the reason why some of our certain favorite players aren't playing here this year... And might show why the Organization has not given him his extension...and might show why Flacco has got so defensive this off season
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1314373256' post='767320']

I think it was on NFLN but it was good when he said it.

Seriously, who is getting worried about what Skip Bayless says? Or what "some Steelers" told him?
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Not me. But I'm just watching this spurn into another Flacco elite debate, where stats and records are being thrown about.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314373424' post='767330']
Simple.......bc if true it might be the reason why some of our certain favorite players aren't playing here this year... And might show why the Organization has not given him his extension...and might show why Flacco has got so defensive this off season
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That's a lot of speculation. And to me, it's pointless.

The Ravens can win with Joe.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314373424' post='767330']
Simple.......bc if true it might be the reason why some of our certain favorite players aren't playing here this year... And might show why the Organization has not given him his extension...and might show why Flacco has got so defensive this off season
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Well, we cut some players (they didn't demand trades or to be released so it wasn't their decision). Joe will get his extension (shown NO reason why he wouldn't) and he wasn't/isn't defensive at all. Keep stirring!!
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314373424' post='767330']
Simple.......bc if true it might be the reason why some of our certain favorite players aren't playing here this year... And might show why the Organization has not given him his extension...and might show why Flacco has got so defensive this off season
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That's a mighty big "if" because, in all likelihood, it was a joke. I'd rather see Flacco stand up for himself [i]("get defensive", in your words) [/i]than curl up. Making an issue out of nothing.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1314373424' post='767330']
Simple.......bc if true it might be the reason why some of our certain favorite players aren't playing here this year... And might show why the Organization has not given him his extension...and might show why Flacco has got so defensive this off season
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Grasping at straws.

Mason and Heap were business and football moves. We've upgraded to a deep threat in Evans and we have two young TEs. SO to say they were cut because they 'spoke out' is a very, very long stretch of the imagination. Look at the concrete evidence. Cap space, value, who we got to replace them.

They haven't been able to sign him to an extension because they still have to get the big boi done first. Ngata. They need to know what their future cap space will look like and Ngata is the first piece to it.

And when the hell has Flacco been defensive? Some press people ask him questions which are designed to prod.
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Rob Parker just laid the smack down on Skip and defended Flacco by bashing Vince Young.
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