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No one liked my idea of letting Joe Flacco draft our WRs from here on out? ha

He did choose Doss and so far Doss is looking like a good prospect. I'm not giving up on Torrey yet..its way too soon, I'll give him a year or so
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As of right now Doss looks pretty easy to throw to. That's what Flacco said when be picked him. It's funny because our coaches wasn't even looking at Doss during the draft and he can turn out to be our best receiver between smith and reed right now. We all need to thank Flacco for this lol. I think the coaches should let Flacco pick our receivers from now on so far so good. It took Ozzie years to find a receiver and he still didn't succeed at it. It took Flacco 1 try and look at what Doss can become. He can really be something special or a gem as they say.
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We have GOT to get Doss involved more in the games with the 1s. Joe needs to work with him more than Torrey because that kid (Doss) can just plain catch the ball. I cannot believe he lasted til the 4th round. He's like a new and improved version of Mason. Seems like he'll just help a team move the chains all day.

Haven't given up on Torrey - not by a long shot - but he should contribute in special situations (like deep balls) at this point. And no more reverses! [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png[/img]
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I'll answer the original question. WR depth chart, I believe, should be the following:
1. Evans
2. Boldin
3. Reed
4. Doss
5. Smith
6. Williams

I think we're going to carry six receivers. The team won't dump Torrey because we just drafted him and we have faith in him. Harper, Hardy, Jones are the odd men out most likely.

As for the subtopic of who will be the third wide receiver...I labeled Reed as third officially on my depth chart but I really don't think it matters. I honestly see the team using all three in different situations for different plays. I don't see there being a clearcut third wide receiver this year. I think it will be a shared position.
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1. Boldin
2. Evans
3. Doss
4. Reed
5. Smith
6 l.williams

I honestly would like to see Reed and doss battle it out for the 3rd WR spot.

Although I have defended T. Smith in other forums and it's still just the preseason and one long bomb in week 1 would erase this all, he has had "alligator arms". Get him some stick'em.

Personally for me, I think it's kind of sad that this kid has struggle so much in preseason after doing all those tweets early on about succeeding, proving people wrong, etc etc. Even after the first game vs the eagles he was immediately tweeting.
He just let the game come to him stop worrying about other factors.
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If LaQuan Williams makes the team, please don't turn him into Marcus Smith 2.0

I don't want him to just play on ST's, please put him in the rotation so we can see what he's made of. He's been impressive so far so I would hate to see him never be able to get a chance. He could be something special, you just never know.
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Boldin
Evans
Doss
Reed
Smith

Doss looks like a keeper and a future starting WR if he keeps it up. Smith might not have an impact this season with Evans on the team. Reed is exciting to watch.
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1. Boldin
2. Evans
3. Doss/Reed
4.Williams
5.Smith
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So far Torrey Smith isnt having a good season... Doss is outbeating him in parctice and the preseason games.... But Reed and Doss should keep switching drives for the #3 WR spot... Also Lequan Williams is having a Great Season! And David Reed is also too! But still... Reed/Doss should switch up between drives and plays...



Actually it dosnt really matter who gets the 5 or 6 spot.... the 5 spot would prob go to Smith, but Williams deserves it more....
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[quote name='ravensfan2430' timestamp='1314331709' post='766561']
You cant teach someone how to catch the ball at this point in the game.
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He is a ROOKIE, he can improve in every phase of his game. You honestly think receivers come into this league and do not improve their catching ability? LMAO, okay. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying HE can, but it is certainly within the realm of possibilities for a rookie WR.
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torrey will develop at his own pace, once he stops overthinking and trying to hard he should do better...but its probably going to be a year or so before we see what he can really do and if he can really play in this league
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[quote name='Mick0311' timestamp='1314482553' post='768897']


He is a ROOKIE, he can improve in every phase of his game. You honestly think receivers come into this league and do not improve their catching ability? LMAO, okay. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying HE can, but it is certainly within the realm of possibilities for a rookie WR.
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He has had the same problem for years. He catches with his body, not his hands.
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I hate to say this, but for guys thinking that Torrey Smith being a burner or a deep threat, I don't see that. He ran a 4.43. That speed isn't going to get him past too many defensive backs, especially corners.
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[quote name='RayRice' timestamp='1314394122' post='767954']
So you're saying Torrey Smith will be a bust if he doesn't play well next game? So if he doesn't play well after 4 PRESEASON games in a season when the preseason was shortened by a LOCKOUT that this guy is a bust? You're crazy. It takes at least 2 years to really determine if someone is a bust.
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How is it that with a lockout and a shorter preseason Laquan Williams and Tandon Doss have come in and played amazingly, but Torrey Smith has looked completely lost. They all had the same amount of time to prepare and Smith just isn't cutting it. Also, shouldn't playing in the preseason be easier than the regular season?
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[quote name='Jarvis Pittman' timestamp='1314487035' post='768950']
I hate to say this, but for guys thinking that Torrey Smith being a burner or a deep threat, I don't see that. He ran a 4.43. That speed isn't going to get him past too many defensive backs, especially corners.
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It's not all about 40 time. He has one of the quickest bursts out of this draft class. He's in and out of his cuts quickly. You have to look at his game speed, not just his pure speed.
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[quote name='*kid_chaos100*' timestamp='1314481198' post='768873']
1. Boldin
2. Evans
3. Doss/Reed
4.Williams
5.Smith
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So far Torrey Smith isnt having a good season... Doss is [u][b]outbeating[/b][/u] him in parctice and the preseason games.... But Reed and Doss should keep switching drives for the #3 WR spot... Also Lequan Williams is having a Great Season! And David Reed is also too! But still... Reed/Doss should switch up between drives and plays...



Actually it dosnt really matter who gets the 5 or 6 spot.... the 5 spot would prob go to Smith, but Williams deserves it more....
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This made my day dude [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.png[/img]

I've never heard someone say "outbeating"

Boldin, Evans, Doss/Reed, Smith, Williams.

Doss and Reed are really close. Reed may get the nod do to more experience. Doss looks like the real deal though. I hope Smith reaches his potential though, he needs to stop overthinking things, and then stop making excuses for not playing well. [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1314487436' post='768954']

It's not all about 40 time. He has one of the quickest bursts out of this draft class. He's in and out of his cuts quickly. You have to look at his game speed, not just his pure speed.
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his burst isn't all that fast and his 40 time isnt going to get him to be that deep threat everyone thinks he will be. Like I said earlier, watch him against Miami and Florida State last year. That will show you how "fast" he really is.
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Harbaugh's thoughts on Torrey Smith

[url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15491201"]http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15491201[/url]
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[quote name='Free Agent' timestamp='1314550008' post='769357']
Harbaugh's thoughts on Torrey Smith

[url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15491201"]http://www.cbssports...s/post/15491201[/url]
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.....and cue the select few here that hate when our coach supports our players and sticks up for them!
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Smith may be a bust or he may not. There's absolutely no way to know that right now. Only time will tell and it's way to early to know. Give the poor kid time.
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[quote name='Jarvis Pittman' timestamp='1314487371' post='768953']

How is it that with a lockout and a shorter preseason Laquan Williams and Tandon Doss have come in and played amazingly, but Torrey Smith has looked completely lost. They all had the same amount of time to prepare and Smith just isn't cutting it. Also, shouldn't playing in the preseason be easier than the regular season?
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^^^^^ This
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[quote name='Jarvis Pittman' timestamp='1314487371' post='768953']

How is it that with a lockout and a shorter preseason Laquan Williams and Tandon Doss have come in and played amazingly, but Torrey Smith has looked completely lost. They all had the same amount of time to prepare and Smith just isn't cutting it. Also, shouldn't playing in the preseason be easier than the regular season?
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It amazes me how people are willing to judge a guys entire career upon a couple of preseason games, but you're entitled to your own opinion. I'm just curious though; do you see Cam Newton as officially a bust now with his abysmal 40% completion rate so far this preseason?
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[quote name='bmore187' timestamp='1314559703' post='769460']

^^^^^ This
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I'm surprised somebody could agree with that statement. Have you not considered that some guys might take longer to adjust to the NFL level. All you have to do is look at the Houston Texans running back situation to see an excellent example of this. Steve Slaton came into the league and absolutely tore it up, whereas Arian Foster did absolutely nothing his first year and was relatively unknown around the league. Steve Slaton is on the verge of being cut and Arian Foster was the league's rushing leader. Just because guys start their careers off slow or fast, it doesn't necessarily determine what they will be for their entire career. I wish I had a better example, but I just can't really think of one at the moment. I'm not sure if you follow hockey, but a guy like Steven Stamkos had a brutal first year where some games the coaches didn't even dress him for games and now he is on the cover of NHL 12 and is the 3rd best scorer in hockey. A guy who was chosen 2 spots behind him named Zack Bogosian had a terrific rookie year but hasn't done [profanity deleted] since then and is now considered a bust.
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[quote name='Mick0311' timestamp='1314482553' post='768897']


He is a ROOKIE, he can improve in every phase of his game. You honestly think receivers come into this league and do not improve their catching ability? LMAO, okay. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying HE can, but it is certainly within the realm of possibilities for a rookie WR.
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Just ridiculous how people are all over this guy and the season hasn't even started yet.
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My list would be the same as everyone elses. Was never a fan of the Torrey Smith pick, we coulda probably gotten him in the fourth round. But, i acutally wanted Greg Little, and he's been productive so far with the Browns. Hopefully T. Smith excuse about him not concentrating and thats why he dropped a pass in the wide open was the reason behind that. Would love to see Smith, Reed, and Doss play the majority of the ATL game though, Along with the the O-Line.
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[quote name='RayRice' timestamp='1314561767' post='769484']
All you have to do is look at the Houston Texans running back situation to see an excellent example of this. Steve Slaton came into the league and absolutely tore it up, whereas Arian Foster did absolutely nothing his first year and was relatively unknown around the league. Steve Slaton is on the verge of being cut and Arian Foster was the league's rushing leader. Just because guys start their careers off slow or fast, it doesn't necessarily determine what they will be for their entire career.[/quote]
Just wanted to comment on the analogy, not on the argument. Arian Foster was only active in 6 games during his rookie season. When he did get the lions share of carries, he put up very solid performances. In fact, he gained 242 yards over his last 2 games, with 3 TDs. His lowest output with 15+ touches during that season was 88 yards, and he finished the season with an impressive 4.8 YPC. With Foster, it was a matter of not having the opportunities to shows his full potential. It's not as if he was slow to develop.
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[quote name='Jarvis Pittman' timestamp='1314487371' post='768953']

How is it that with a lockout and a shorter preseason Laquan Williams and Tandon Doss have come in and played amazingly, but Torrey Smith has looked completely lost. They all had the same amount of time to prepare and Smith just isn't cutting it. Also, shouldn't playing in the preseason be easier than the regular season?
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That, I'm not sure of. I really don't get how they're doing better. Laquan is more explosive, so I can understand that. Tandon is a much better route runner than Torrey. I guess Tandon is just more NFL ready. Laquan is so fast, he doesn't need to be as a good a route runner. Torrey isn't as rediculusly fast.

No, playing in the preseason is not easier. Torrey, Tandon, and Laquan are playing against players just like them. Guys that were just drafted/signed and also have to find their niche. In fact, they're also playing against some vets. Playing in the preseason is not easy for rookies and young players.
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