WR Depth Chart

[Tyler]

Both Reed and Doss will get looks on the field when the Season starts. Much like Jordy Nelson and James Jones get equal looks from Rodgers.

[Ravens Beast]

[quote name='CorvusCorax' timestamp='1314333529' post='766678']

Yes. Reed has one more year of experience over Doss. Honestly it's very close though. I can see both being used as the 3rd WR for varying situations.
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Exactly the same reasoning here. Just that familiarity with the system for a year longer. But I want them to get about equal amount of snaps.

[colljb9]

reed = evans and doss = boldin...kinda depends on the packages we play but i fully believe depending on the package will determine on which wide reciever we put in. love both these guys, reed just hasnt had a full chance to show what he can do as a reciever yet. Also reed only played 2 years at Utah...and has nearly 1200 recieving yards his second year...lets give him a little time as well.

[magna481]

[quote name='ravensfan2430' timestamp='1314331709' post='766561']
You cant teach someone how to catch the ball at this point in the game.
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Correct, it can't be taught. BUT it can be learned. Before anyone goes an flips out, give him a year. There have been a ton of players that played a terrible first year and had outstanding careers. Brett Favre comes to mind, but there are WR too.
I mean, worst case scenario, he's prolly a decent ST player at least

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

Harper won't make the team, especially not if LaQuan Williams is given his shot which I fully believe he should.

Boldin,
Evans,
Doss,
Reed,
Smith,
Williams.

I think with regards to the Reed/Doss battle for the number three WR, it depends who we have in at TE. When Dickson's in, I think Doss will too as Dickson's a good downfield threat. When Pitta's in, I think Reed will be on the field as he is the better downfield threat of the two.

[Ravens Lover]

Boldin

Evans

Doss

Reed


I wouldn't put Smith in the bust category just yet I say 1 year on the practice squad and next year decide that.

[Wastntime]

To early to tell if Smith is a bust IMO. But the guy has small hands for a WR. 8 1/2'' if I remember correctly. That equals to like a mens medium glove size.

[heapitup247]

I won't judge Torrey on one bad preseason game. Hes really fast, and he gets open. The hands and things can come as he gets more comfortable with flacco and in the offense.

With that being said, Tandon Doss needs to be the 3 as of right now. But i still think we can use Torrey as a vertical threat. Use them both and split reps. They have very different skill sets.

As far as him being #7, thats ridiculous. Doss and them played against backups. Torrey didn't. Does that have anything to do with catching the ball? No, but he certainly can get open. He showed that. No one is going to be harder on Torrey than himself (as evident by his tweet earlier).

[baltravens]

2011 Ravens' WR corps:

1. Boldin
2. Evans
3. Reed
4. Doss
5. T. Smith
6. M. Smith

The assumption is here that we are going to keep 6.

[ravensfan2430]

[quote name='baltravens' timestamp='1314362936' post='767031']
2011 Ravens' WR corps:

1. Boldin
2. Evans
3. Reed
4. Doss
5. T. Smith
6. M. Smith

The assumption is here that we are going to keep 6.
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M. Smith has almost no value since the kickoff has been erased from the game. L Williams over M. Smith IMO

[757RavensFan]

T. Smith has all the [u]potential[/u] in the world. That just means he hasn't shown us what he's truly capable of. You can't play a guy during regular season based off of potential. You need guys that can produce and right now Doss has proven that he can produce.
Doss > T. Smith in a landslide.

[jus'_crAzy]

[quote name='bmore187' timestamp='1314330717' post='766512']
1.Boldin
2.Evans
3.Doss
4.Reed
5.L.Williams
6.J.Harper
7.Smith
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I actually agree with this. Not the Harper part. That's crazy.

Smith has the potential, but he's miles and miles away. Williams looks like he could contribute right now.

Doss has that go-get-it type of mentality, and that'll always win me over the speedy deep threat type in Reed.

But in general, split ends depth looks a lot better than the flankers.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='ravensfan2430' timestamp='1314364379' post='767058']
M. Smith has almost no value since the kickoff has been erased from the game. L Williams over M. Smith IMO
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Wouldn't surprise me if we kept him for ST purposes. Hes a really good gunner.

[UxbridgeRaven]

Obviously Boldin + Evans are 1 + 2 then Doss, Reed and T. Smith will be used at various times dependent on situation. I think Williams might well get the nod as the sixth guy since he was brought in as a potential special teams ace and is probably exceeding those expectations.

If I had to guess which of the second tier guys gets the most snaps, I would probably go with Torrey as I think there will be times he comes in to spell for Evans and Cam will look to keep a deep threat on the field regardless of whether he'll catch it if it's thrown his way and the nature of the routes we are going to ask Lee Evans to run means you need to spell him a little.

[Gtown Purple]

I think your being to harsh on a guy who's been in the NFL for a few weeks. He still needs to get the psychological part down. That comes with experience. Harper has had is chances to make this team and he hasn't showed that he has more upside than our rookies. If he did then he'd be much higher on the depth chart if not starting after multiple seasons with us. I think it's crazy to call someone a bust after 3 preseason games, no regular games, and a few weeks of NFL level practice. Put aside your obvious hate for the guy and be realistic.

[itscbm5042]

What pissed me off was seeing Tiny Stone Hands Smith out there with the starters trying to catch passes from Flacco when David Reed was still with the second team. Reed is a playmaker, plain and simple, and he needs a chance to develop a rapport with Flacco, not Taylor. Those catches would have been made if it was Reed, who can run all the same routes as Smith can.

Boldin, Evans, Reed. That is the only acceptible starting WR corps. If Torrey was a RFA he would be cut today, but he is a high draft pick so he won't be.

[UxbridgeRaven]

[quote name='itscbm5042' timestamp='1314369295' post='767179']
What pissed me off was seeing Tiny Stone Hands Smith out there with the starters trying to catch passes from Flacco when David Reed was still with the second team. Reed is a playmaker, plain and simple, and he needs a chance to develop a rapport with Flacco, not Taylor. Those catches would have been made if it was Reed, who can run all the same routes as Smith can.

Boldin, Evans, Reed. That is the only acceptible starting WR corps. If Torrey was a RFA he would be cut today, but he is a high draft pick so he won't be.
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While I'd agree Reed is the best slot guy we have and Smith's hands have looked horrible, I think you have to give some credit to him for getting separation while playing with the 1's and if he was a RFA he'd get a lot of credit for that. I wasn't convinced by him pre-draft, didn't really like the choice, but bearing in mind that he was drafted as a speed guy with poor hands I think people are being overly harsh on him. I kind of look at it as at least the speed is there and that is uncoachable.

To put it another way, he is who we thought he was.

[bmore187]

[quote name='Gtown Purple' timestamp='1314367940' post='767143']
I think your being to harsh on a guy who's been in the NFL for a few weeks. He still needs to get the psychological part down. That comes with experience. Harper has had is chances to make this team and he hasn't showed that he has more upside than our rookies. If he did then he'd be much higher on the depth chart if not starting after multiple seasons with us. I think it's crazy to call someone a bust after 3 preseason games, no regular games, and a few weeks of NFL level practice. Put aside your obvious hate for the guy and be realistic.
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Tandon Doss and Laquan Williams have ONLY been in the NFL a few weeks too! Why can they catch and Torrey cant????? Stop making excuses. Either you can catch or you cant. You play catch with your dad when your like 4yrs old. C'mon Man

[Suggs Package]

Slightly off topic, but what happened to all of the James Hardy talk? haha. And everyone laughed at me when I said Brandon Jones had a better chance of making the team.

But anyway, Torrey is a body catcher and I don't expect him to ever to catch slants or any of those Derrick Mason routes. I see him as a specialist who can do damage in situations where he can get big separation likes streaks and deep posts and such where he doesn't have to worry about his hands or crisp routes. But Torrey has essentially the same scouting report as Mike Wallace when he came out of college. Wallace still isn't a well-rounded receiver but he can put up some numbers because of pure athletic ability. I see him eventually creeping up the depth chart at the end of the season.

[FerrariFan87]

1. Boldin
1A. Evans
3. Doss
4. Reed
5. T. Smith
6. LaQuan Williams

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Suggs Package' timestamp='1314370589' post='767212']
Slightly off topic, but what happened to all of the James Hardy talk? haha. And everyone laughed at me when I said Brandon Jones had a better chance of making the team.

But anyway, [b]Torrey is a body catcher and I don't expect him to ever to catch slants or any of those Derrick Mason routes.[/b] I see him as a specialist who can do damage in situations where he can get big separation likes streaks and deep posts and such where he doesn't have to worry about his hands or crisp routes. But Torrey has essentially the same scouting report as Mike Wallace when he came out of college. Wallace still isn't a well-rounded receiver but he can put up some numbers because of pure athletic ability. I see him eventually creeping up the depth chart at the end of the season.
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I frequently see WRs catching with their arms on slants, and Mason definitely used his body at times to reel in the ball on curls, comebacks and outs during his time here.

[Ravens1991]

Look at Roddy White guys. He was horrendous at ATL when he first came there now he developed into a stud. Give him time, and calling anyone a bust after 3 pre season games is just beyond ridiculous

[Suggs Package]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1314370929' post='767223']

I frequently see WRs catching with their arms on slants, and Mason definitely used his body at times to reel in the ball on curls, comebacks and outs during his time here.
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Arms aren't really considered the torso, but i get your point. but there's a difference between wideouts who use their body to protect the ball or shield it away from the defender and wideouts who prefers to catch the ball in the body regardless of the situation. The latter generally indicates a lack of hand-eye coordination and/or a lack of confidence.

[berad]

1. Boldin
2. Evans
3. Reed
4. Doss
5/6. Smith/Williams

Based on what we've seen in the past and the pre-season. I really hope Williams makes the team, he's earned it.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Suggs Package' timestamp='1314371222' post='767233']
Arms aren't really considered the torso, but i get your point. but there's a difference between wideouts who use their body to protect the ball or shield it away from the defender and wideouts who prefers to catch the ball in the body regardless of the situation. The latter generally indicates a lack of hand-eye coordination and/or a lack of confidence.
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I've seen him make catches solely with his hands. So I have to believe confidence is likely his biggest issue at the moment.

The great thing is, the offense appears to have enough weapons to operate well without much production from him.

[Guest Moderator 6]

[list=1]
[*]Boldin
[*]Evans
[*]Reed
[*]Doss
[*]Williams
[*]Smith
[/list]
Smith should move up the depth chart throughout the season.

[Runnin Raven]

What I feel, not what I expect the coaches to come up with:

1. Boldin
1A. Evans
3. Doss
4. Reed
5. Williams
6. Smith

I'm blown away by LaQuan Williams' performance this preseason. Outta freakin' nowhere!!

I liked FerrariFan's use of "1A" for Evans.

[AwakenTheDemon]

1a. Boldin
1b. Evans
3. Doss
4. Reed
5. Smith
6. Williams

I think Williams is going to earn himself a spot, even if it's just special teams right now. I'd much rather take him over Hardy or Harper. Won't be much of a clear cut one or two receiver again this year. Joe seems to like hitting Evans and Boldin, and Lee's not being used on just fly routes... but on some gorgeous slants.

[scrock]

[quote name='bmore187' timestamp='1314330717' post='766512']
1.Boldin
2.Evans
3.Doss
4.Reed
5.L.Williams
6.J.Harper
7.Smith

Ive said it before this game and i will say it again, Torrey Smith is a bust. You guys can keep calling me crazy if u want but im tired of Torrey getting the benefit of the doubt. Tandon Doss who was drafted in the 4th rd, has had the same amount of time ( next to none ) to prepare as Smith has. No need to say who looks way better between the two. You dont develop your hands after you've made it to the NFL. Catching is catching, either you can catch or you cant. Point blank. SMith has hands of stone. He probably looks like this when the ball comes his way[img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/bitenails.gif[/img]
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Boldin
Evans
David Reed
Tandon Doss
Brandon Jones
Torrey Smith/LaQuan Williams

[nk02442]

Ozzie and Decosta were insane for blowing their 2nd rounder on Smith. He was barley a 4th rounder if that. Everyone knew he was going to be a bust. This whole maryland hometown thing is a joke. They could have grabbed a Tackle, Corner, or DE that has a chance to start/play right away.

Doss and Williams have both outshone smith. When a 4th rounder and a UDFA are blowing your spot up, it means something. He dropped passes that were right in the numbers and on crucial 3rd downs. Hope you enjoy your contract beacuse its going to be your last.