Bryant McKinnie To Ravens

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1314148545' post='761868']

He's been bad before Favre got there, so your point is invalid
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Could you please verify your point and why you think he is so bad ?

[flynismo]

Awesome. Between him and Cody there'll be nothing left at the snack bar for the rest of the team.

[codizzle]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314149563' post='761880']
Awesome. Between him and Cody there'll be nothing left at the snack bar for the rest of the team.
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lol i wonder if hw signed with us just cause we had an ice cream truck at training camp practice

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314149563' post='761880']
Awesome. Between him and Cody there'll be nothing left at the snack bar for the rest of the team.
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You couldn't resist, could you? Lol!

McKinnie isn't the best thing since sliced bread, but when healthy he was solid. Regardless of where they put him at, as long as he who shall not be named isn't in the lineup, I'll be fine.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='jimmysmith3' timestamp='1314148982' post='761875']
We didn't bring this guy in to ride the pine and lead on our on another Love Boat excursion. Come on dude, we brought a high risk player like this in to be a starting tackle for us. Yes, if he gets outplayed then he will be replaced, but we brought this guy in to start.

"You bring guys in to compete" - So we brought Vonta Leach in to compete. Nope, the only other FB on the roster was cut before Leach's plane even arrived in Baltimore.

Guys like Pollard and LeVoir were brought in to compete. Guys like Lee Evans, Mckinnie, and Leach were brought in to start.

Ideally you are correct, but in reality you are wrong. You should also probably look up the definition for what a forum is first before you critisize people. If you want news stay on the homepage; a forum is a place where the fans dicuss the news and facts (like the Mckinnie signing).

Good attempt at being prophetic in a football forum though. Go troll somwhere else.
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How exactly do you know who is brought in to compete for a spot and who is brought in to start? From what I know about this organization no one is handed a starting job. Sure, the FO probably wants McKinnie to be a starting OT, but if he looks slow and out of shape in practice Reid may still get the nod depending on his progression. McKinnie will have to prove that he is still a starter in this league.

[bigZ2222]

i personally dont know if everyone else is excited as me. i do see the large amounts of childish insults but ive come to expect nothin less. but with that being said the truth is we have a chance to have an amazing o line this year even if birk continues to regress if this signing pans out.

i see it as from left to right

mckinnie/grubbs/birk/yanda/oher that seems like a great line on paper only seeing them mesh will help my opinion but i really enjoy this signing

[ravensfan6892]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1314148531' post='761867']
Well, he sure as hell better not be 380 anymore!!
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hopefully he gets down to a solid 350-360

[POE]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1314149709' post='761885']

How exactly do you know who is brought in to compete for a spot and who is brought in to start? From what I know about this organization no one is handed a starting job. Sure, the FO probably wants McKinnie to be a starting OT, but if he looks slow and out of shape in practice Reid may still get the nod depending on his progression. McKinnie will have to prove that he is still a starter in this league.
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I would say that the way McKinney's contract is setup would prove your theory correct. From what I understand he is only guaranteed $1 mil and the rest of it will have to be earned through incentives so I can see him having to prove a little bit before he gets handed anything.

[flynismo]

[quote name='EnVy_CaLiBeR' timestamp='1314149706' post='761884']
You couldn't resist, could you? Lol!

McKinnie isn't the best thing since sliced bread, but when healthy he was solid. Regardless of where they put him at, as long as he who shall not be named isn't in the lineup, I'll be fine.[/quote]




if he really is 386 lbs (my godddd...) or anywhere close to that, I'm not a fan of him.
But at least we were smart and gave him a very incentive laden contract, so I dont think this was a bad move. I'm very surprised we got him as cheap as we did...

[flynismo]

[quote name='bigZ2222' timestamp='1314150040' post='761893']i personally dont know if everyone else is excited as me. i do see the large amounts of childish insults but ive come to expect nothin less. but with that being said the truth is we have a chance to have an amazing o line this year even if birk continues to regress if this signing pans out.

i see it as from left to right

mckinnie/grubbs/birk/yanda/oher that seems like a great line on paper only seeing them mesh will help my opinion but i really enjoy this signing[/quote]

childish insults? Its not an insult if it's true. That dude is so fat it takes him two trips to haul [profanity deleted]

[scrock]

The guy was a Pro Bowler in 2009 and started his rookie year, he's a proven LT in this league...and he might be our RT, unless they really want to move Oher or he struggles badly

So..obviously he isnt a bad player, if he gets his act together he is quite good

[jimmysmith3]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1314149709' post='761885']

How exactly do you know who is brought in to compete for a spot and who is brought in to start? From what I know about this organization no one is handed a starting job. Sure, the FO probably wants McKinnie to be a starting OT, but if he looks slow and out of shape in practice Reid may still get the nod depending on his progression. McKinnie will have to prove that he is still a starter in this league.
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You think if we signed Asomugha this offseason for $17mil a year that he's brought in to compete with Cary Williams and Jimmy Smith? And if you can tell me who Vonta Leach is "competing" with this offseason I could consider agreeing with your position, but until then you can't say that definitively. Sp are you saying we drafted Anthony Allen and Tyrod Taylor to compete with Rice and Flacco for the starting RB and QB positions respectively? You think Irsay signed Peyton to that long deal this offseason so he can compete with Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky?

I look no further than Green Bay where Matt Flynn has reportedly looked fantastic this offseason and Aaron Rogers has struggled. Yet, it's not even a question who will be their starter week 1.

Some guys are depth signings (Ricky Williams, Jason Murphy), other guys are signed to be starters (Leach, Lee Evans) and others are brought in to compete (Pollard, LeVoir).

If we signed a veteran QB this offseason are we bringing him in to compete with Flacco or as insurance as a backup like Mark Brunell is with the Jets.

[flynismo]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1314150644' post='761909']The guy was a Pro Bowler in 2009 and started his rookie year, he's a proven LT in this league...and he might be our RT, unless they really want to move Oher or he struggles badly

So..obviously he isnt a bad player, if he gets his act together he is quite good[/quote]


maybe...
Or maybe Minny released him because he looks like he ate the Michellin man and he is in serious decline.

[flynismo]

My fat jokes are a bit off tonight lol...need to consult my son for new material. Be back soon!

[scrock]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314150794' post='761913']
maybe...
Or maybe Minny released him because he looks like he ate the Michellin man and he is in serious decline.
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well yeah he showed up overweight and they were fed up with him..look at all the trouble he got into, Minnesota just got tired of his immaturity

now, if he learned a lesson and Ray Lewis and Ed Reed can talk some sense into him, after all they did vouch for the dude...its kind of like sticking your neck out for a friend...he better come thru for them

he must have lost weight and if he cant pass the physical we arent signing him anyway

[The Raven]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314150794' post='761913']
maybe...
Or maybe Minny released him because he looks like he ate the Michellin man and he is in serious decline.
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Fly... you are too funny!!!

I'm okay with the signing, as long as its a one year, incentive heavy deal. I'll admit that I'm not thrilled, not a big fan of his weight issue, but if he really has that under control, than its an upgrade. He'll probably be playing RT for us, and I think he'll be starting, at least until Reid proves he can handle it. I think the FO was just concerned with the Steelers game, that would be a true baptism by fire for Reid, and McKinney could probably handle it better, considering his experience.

[flynismo]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1314150962' post='761918']

well yeah he showed up overweight and they were fed up with him..look at all the trouble he got into, Minnesota just got tired of his immaturity

now, if he learned a lesson and Ray Lewis and Ed Reed can talk some sense into him, after all they did vouch for the dude...its kind of like sticking your neck out for a friend...he better come thru for them

he must have lost weight and if he cant pass the physical we arent signing him anyway[/quote]


i feel ya, but I stick my neck out for friends all the time when I know I shouldn't.

[jimmysmith3]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1314149709' post='761885']

How exactly do you know who is brought in to compete for a spot and who is brought in to start? From what I know about this organization no one is handed a starting job. Sure, the FO probably wants McKinnie to be a starting OT, but if he looks slow and out of shape in practice Reid may still get the nod depending on his progression. McKinnie will have to prove that he is still a starter in this league.
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He'll be installed as a starter as soon as he learns the playbook and cuts down his weigh or whatever he needs to do, and then he'll be the starter unless this LeVoir guy or Jah can look like the next Ogden in the next 2 preseason games. Wacth, as soon as he's ready to go he'll be working with the first team exclusively.

[ravensfan160]

We need to remember how Ozzie and Harbaugh want to get back to ground and pound. It's safe to say McKinnie will be at least as good a pass blocker as what we have right now at RT but will be a monster in the run game.

[bigZ2222]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314150360' post='761903']
childish insults? Its not an insult if it's true. That dude is so fat it takes him two trips to haul [profanity deleted]
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he was listed by th ravens at 6'8 345 good football weight for a tackle so im happy with it let the games begin

[scrock]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314151476' post='761926']
i feel ya, but I stick my neck out for friends all the time when I know I shouldn't.
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yeah i know what u mean

[mgridda]

[quote name='jimmysmith3' timestamp='1314150742' post='761911']
You think if we signed Asomugha this offseason for $17mil a year that he's brought in to compete with Cary Williams and Jimmy Smith? And if you can tell me who Vonta Leach is "competing" with this offseason I could consider agreeing with your position, but until then you can't say that definitively. Sp are you saying we drafted Anthony Allen and Tyrod Taylor to compete with Rice and Flacco for the starting RB and QB positions respectively? You think Irsay signed Peyton to that long deal this offseason so he can compete with Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky?

I look no further than Green Bay where Matt Flynn has reportedly looked fantastic this offseason and Aaron Rogers has struggled. Yet, it's not even a question who will be their starter week 1.

Some guys are depth signings (Ricky Williams, Jason Murphy), other guys are signed to be starters (Leach, Lee Evans) and others are brought in to compete (Pollard, LeVoir).

If we signed a veteran QB this offseason are we bringing him in to compete with Flacco or as insurance as a backup like Mark Brunell is with the Jets.
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Bryant McKinnie - at this juncture - is not as good at offensive tackle as Nnamdi Asomugha is at corner. He's not as good as Peyton Manning or Rodgers are at QB. That's ultimately where your reasoning fails. McKinnie was cut from his team. He was let go. He showed up well over his playing weight. He isn't Joe Thomas or Jake Long. He won't be handed anything, and quite frankly you're really only reflecting poorly on yourself to advocate that sort of favoritism.

McKinnie has a lot to prove. Asomugha, Manning, Rodgers: those guys really don't. Your error in reasoning is a rather large one. You probably don't see it, but you don't have a leg to stand on.

I have a reason to believe that this coaching staff will put the best 11 men out on the field. Every coaching staff everywhere will do the same. That's simply how football games are won. And the philosophy in championship caliber teams like New England is that no one man is bigger than the team. No one man is irreplaceable, and every single bench player is a play away from being a starter. If the backups are not trained with the mentality that they can beat the starter for their job, then their performance becomes weaker. Every single head coach in the National Football League is likely to disagree with your ideas. The fact of the matter is Peyton Manning is on a whole other stratosphere from Curtis Painter. One day, Manning will be replaced. Another player will come in and do his job better than him, and like Brett Favre before him he'll be replaced. If you look at New England they've already got Ryan coming in and perhaps sitting on the bench for 3 years just like Rodgers did. That's a smart organization.

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[flynismo]

[quote name='bigZ2222' timestamp='1314151875' post='761933']

he was listed by th ravens at 6'8 345 good football weight for a tackle so im happy with it let the games begin[/quote]


well someone is full of it (not you). There's no way he lost 40 lbs in a few weeks.

[scrock]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314152186' post='761939']
well someone is full of it (not you). There's no way he lost 40 lbs in a few weeks.
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while i kind of doubt it too, its not completely impossible, especially with real big ppl and especially athletes, its much easier to lose 40lbs when u weigh 400....u know what i mean haha

[The Raven]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314152186' post='761939']
well someone is full of it (not you). There's no way he lost 40 lbs in a few weeks.
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No way he did, and if he did, he lost it too quickly. It's unhealthy to lose that much weight so quickly. You're only suppossed to lose 1-2 pounds a week, at most 3. He lost this weight faster than he should have, i hope he stays healthy.

[SecretAgentMan]

Our offseason was looking crappy at first, then we signed two Texans, traded for Lee Evans and got two serviceable offenisive linemen. Now we ave Mckinnie, and if he passes his physical, we will be a playoff lock, and we will give Oz a huge extension.

[scrock]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1314152372' post='761943']

No way he did, and if he did, he lost it too quickly. It's unhealthy to lose that much weight so quickly. You're only suppossed to lose 1-2 pounds a week, at most 3. He lost this weight faster than he should have, i hope he stays healthy.
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I watch a lot of MMA and those guys cut weight in a matter of weeks, same thing with wrestlers...there are healthy diets u can go on instead of doing something harmful like getting into a sweat suit and sitting in a sauna for hours at a time...

its possible..however unlikely.

if he doesnt pass physical he's not a raven...its that simple, and the discussion will be over

[hawkprey]

I hope McKinnie will get cleared for a physical. Then again it's a miracle he was even cleared for takeoff.


(I didn't know we got to do fat jokes...)

[PuRock]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314152186' post='761939']
well someone is full of it (not you). There's no way he lost 40 lbs in a few weeks.
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Maybe he hired Jillian Micheals. Just seeing her around would be enough to get any man in shape.

[mgridda]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1314152186' post='761939']
well someone is full of it (not you). There's no way he lost 40 lbs in a few weeks.
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It's possible if 385 is not his normal weight. Since he's been playing at 335 for the past few years (supposedly), then I'd say it's possible he just took the lockout as a time much like The Summer of Bryant. It's pretty easy to lose weight that was put on quick and likely due to periods of large inactivity.

If he goes from 0 exercise and a terrible diet to a great diet and extreme exercise I could definitely see him dropping back to his normal weight at least.

I think the Steelers might resign Starks, too.