Jah Reid At Lt?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

This has come up between myself and a few others in several topics... I wanted to start a discussion specifically on this.

Jah Reid has more prototypical size for a LT than Oher, and as we've seen so far Oher has been a Probowl caliber RT, and only serviceable at LT. In my opinion, Oher may one day become a good LT, but hes elite on the right side... he needs to be there.

Why not give Reid a shot at locking down the left side? I know it's a more important position than right tackle but we've recently seen a rookie has success in that position. I think even if he's worse at the spot than Oher is, our line overall will be much better with Oher at RT.

[Ed_Reed20]

Reid may have the size, but he doesn't have the feet to play LT.

[AsianRice]

I think he will be good at LT but not right now, possibly couple years down the road.

[acranfor]

I think it would be great to have Oher back on the right side, but honestly I do not think the staff is even considering it since he has been only practicing on the left for the past yeah and a half. Either way we need a RT and C (and keep Oher on L) or LT and C (and move Oher to R).

Moves will be made in the next couple weeks so we will see. Signing Ngata will give us a little money to play around with...enough to sign a bigger name or 2 smaller names.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1313182526' post='748822']
I think he will be good at LT but not right now, possibly couple years down the road.
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But i think the same can be said about Oher... good in a couple years but not right now. Hes probowl good on the right side right now. ER20 brings up a good point with the footwork, but thats something that can be worked on in my opinion. Even if he struggles id rather sacrifice a little on the left side for a gaurentee on the right side. better than being weak on both sides

[Clutch Ravens]

From what I've seen/heard of the game, his technique was sloppy and footwork was slow.

Those are two things that a Left Tackle can't succeed with.

[Suggs Package]

no.

[Thepurplehaze]

How about we stick Biscotti in at LT?

[Alexir]

Wish Gaither had work ethic and a chiropractor....then our only complaints would be why all of our corners play 10 yards off the ball

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1313184105' post='748886']
Wish Gaither had work ethic and a chiropractor....then our only complaints would be why all of our corners play 10 yards off the ball
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Minus Williams...dude is right in your face at the snap! Really like this kid!

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='BOLDnPurPnBlacK' timestamp='1313182326' post='748811']
This has come up between myself and a few others in several topics... I wanted to start a discussion specifically on this.

Jah Reid has more prototypical size for a LT than Oher, and as we've seen so far Oher has been a Probowl caliber RT, and only serviceable at LT. In my opinion, Oher may one day become a good LT, but hes elite on the right side... he needs to be there.

Why not give Reid a shot at locking down the left side? I know it's a more important position than right tackle but we've recently seen a rookie has success in that position. I think even if he's worse at the spot than Oher is, our line overall will be much better with Oher at RT.
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there's no way, at all. Speed is more important than size on the Left side. Matt light is smaller in every way than oher, and he has several rings starting at that position.

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1313184175' post='748888']
Minus Williams...dude is right in your face at the snap! Really like this kid!
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He has some awesome potential.

Really nice guy, too. Met him before the Miami game last season and he seemed very humble, shook hands with every fan that talked to him.

[Alexir]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1313184175' post='748888']
Minus Williams...dude is right in your face at the snap! Really like this kid!
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Williams is a great physical corner. He played pretty darn good last night. Much better than Carr.

How many snaps did Jimmy Smith get?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1313185068' post='748932']
Williams is a great physical corner. He played pretty darn good last night. Much better than Carr.

How many snaps did Jimmy Smith get?
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4 or 5 I believe

[Yurtle]

We're drafting a tackle in the first round next year. I can just feel it.

[flynismo]

I definitely understand your logic, but Reid will probably be awful at LT -- as good as Oher is at RT may be as bad as Reid might be at LT. I think we'd be better to have two good but not great OT.

[SecretAgentMan]

Ramone Harewood, did he play last night, he is listed as a left tackle. Lets see what he can do. I bet he will be better than cousins.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Jah reid struggled with 2nd roster (backups). Hardly doubt he can do better at LT vs. Starters. He needs time.

[True]

I can't see Jah Reid playing LT well at all. He was strictly a RT in college and did quite well at the position. UCF had a strong running game and scored a ton of running TDs (pretty close to Wisconsin who are one of the best rush teams in the nation) and Reid was a large part of that. He is not great at pass protection which is what you require from an LT to protect Flacco's blind side. Micheal Oher isn't great at it, but it's only his 2nd year at the position and I expect him to get better.

Jah Reid will take time to develop at RT but he can definitely become a great run blocker allowing Ray Rice to get into the second level. His pass protection will take time but he won't be going up against the best pass rushers in the league + having Marshall Yanda on his left and putting a TE next to him should help protect the right side.

[Proxzyn]

Reid isn't even pro-ready at RT, and you're already talking about starting him at left? That's a little fast
I think it was the consensus, when he was drafted, that he was a project that could become a good RT.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1313185794' post='748984']
Jah reid struggled with 2nd roster (backups). Hardly doubt he can do better at LT vs. Starters. He needs time.
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I wouldn't say he struggled at all. His technique didn't look terrible, a little sloppy, but he'll get better with more reps. Personally, he needs to be the starter at RT week 1, barring any trades or FA pickup. I wanna see him get reps with the first team next week, just to see how he does.

As for playing LT, not a chance. He just doesn't have the feet for it as already pointed out.

[jus'_crAzy]

I can't agree with putting Jah Reid at LT, but major kudos for looking within our current roster!

I'ma wait for Mr. Blindside to develop a bit more before I come to a conclusion.

Maybe Andy Moeller's to blame? That is, if you're pointing fingers... (<--- shot heard 'round the world... why would I do such a thing...?)

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1313184684' post='748910']
there's no way, at all. Speed is more important than size on the Left side. Matt light is smaller in every way than oher, and he has several rings starting at that position.
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Matt Light was never an elite LT and is commonly seen by Pats fans as a solid, overacheiving technician. He's just one of those hyped names from the 08 Superbowl run who was never as good as the perception.

The real problem with short (6'4" and under) offensive tackles is the arms are shorter, which means they have a reduced blocking range, and shorter legs means the kickstep and powerstep is also shorter. The other things is the lack of size. Much like a large NT takes up more space than a LB, a taller tackle on an island takes up more space than a shorter tackle.

However, a smart technician can overcome a lack of size ie Matt Light, or a lack of footwork ie Andrew Whitworth to be an efficient pass protector by putting themselves in good position.

[gregreid5]

Ravens might sign a guy for RT who is a vet and can at least make Cousins and Reid play smarter. They have talent but they just dont seem to grasp the intricacies of the positions.

I agree that we really need a C. I think a second or third next year will be used for that. I was hoping Rodney Hudson fell to us this year (granted I am an FSU fan). I think a LT, C, 5 Tech, Rush OLB and MLB are our positions to focus on rounds 1-3 next year. Maybe a playmaker at S if Ed Reed hangs them up or is talking about it more and more.

[Gordo52]

Cant move Oher back to RT. He would be too confused

[scrock]

They're trying to see if Jah can play RT at the moment, so no at this time there is no way he can play LT.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

I would rather keep Oher and Reid at their respective positions, at least for this year. It is nicer to have each serviceable on their side as opposed to Oher killing it on the right and Reid getting killed on the left.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='I*Bleed*Purple' timestamp='1313263262' post='749955']
I would rather keep Oher and Reid at their respective positions, at least for this year. [b]It is nicer to have each serviceable on their side[/b] as opposed to Oher killing it on the right and Reid getting killed on the left.
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Are they really serviceable? Oher took alot of penalties last season, Flacco was sacked 40 times, and the Ravens running backs combined for one of the lowest ypr in the league. Then there was Thursday...

[I*Bleed*Purple]

Very true. However, Yanda wasn't in his natural position, either. I just think that Oher on the left and Reid or a vet we bring in on the right, with Yanda back at RG is our best bet. Or as others have mentioned, move Yanda back out to RT and bring in a vet G. Oher at RT and Reid at LT definitely isn't the answer!

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1313245418' post='749780']
Matt Light was never an elite LT and is commonly seen by Pats fans as a solid, overacheiving technician. He's just one of those hyped names from the 08 Superbowl run who was never as good as the perception.

The real problem with short (6'4" and under) offensive tackles is the arms are shorter, which means they have a reduced blocking range, and shorter legs means the kickstep and powerstep is also shorter. The other things is the lack of size. Much like a large NT takes up more space than a LB, a taller tackle on an island takes up more space than a shorter tackle.

However, a smart technician can overcome a lack of size ie Matt Light, or a lack of footwork ie Andrew Whitworth to be an efficient pass protector by putting themselves in good position.
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michael Oher has longer arms than Joe Thomas and Jake Long. Long arms aren't as important as long legs. You want quick feet and long movement, long arms are a complete myth.