Tyrod Taylor As #2

[DylanRobles]

How well do you guys think that Tyrod Taylor performed against the Eagles? Keep in mind that he is a rookie #2 that was playing against a heavy pass rush. The pass rush was also complimented with the fact that the Eagles defense played a LOT less than our defense, so they were very well rested.

At first, I was a little skeptical of his performance, but after a few snaps, he really started looking comfortable. Given the circumstances, I'm actually pretty impressed with the guy and looking forward to our next preseason game hoping that our offensive line will do a better job protecting against the pass rush. Towards the very end of the game, he really put together some solid drives.

Also, I thought that the 2nd interception he threw, on the 1yd line, wasn't an interception. Of course I was watching on the ETN which was HORRIBLY Eagles biased (obviously), so the replay was only shown once, but I'm 90% sure that the guy only had one foot in bounds. Then his 3rd int, which was discounted, the same problem almost emerged. This was reviewed and overturned under the same circumstance.

Just my opinion. What's yours?

[bdravens]

Oniel Cousins was nothing but a gaping hole for their DEs to beeline through at Tyrod. I can imagine that was in his head. But, the interceptions weren't good, but it was his first game. We will know more about where we are headed with backup QBs depending on how he performs next week for sure.

[DylanRobles]

[quote name='bdravens' timestamp='1313130606' post='747180']
Oniel Cousins was nothing but a gaping hole for their DEs to beeline through at Tyrod. I can imagine that was in his head. But, the interceptions weren't good, but it was his first game. We will know more about where we are headed with backup QBs depending on how he performs next week for sure.
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Exactly what I'm thinking. I like his style though, so I'm kindof optimistic.

[bdravens]

[quote name='DylanRobles' timestamp='1313130957' post='747185']
Exactly what I'm thinking. I like his style though, so I'm kindof optimistic.
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I think the potential is definitely there, but im not sure I would trust him this year. Hopefully we won't have to trust anyone but Joe

[theFRANCHISE]

Thanks to NFL.com's Preseason Live, I've been able to take a look at the footage of the game.

At a glance (and this is without really studying the footage), Tyrod Taylor did better than my knee-jerk reaction. While watching the game live, I thought he did horribly, rookie or not.

However, upon looking at the replay, Taylor did some good things for being a rookie in his first NFL action:

1) He didn't panic; while his movement would indicate that he has happy feet, he merely shifted the pocket on several plays where the offensive line broke down (the majority of which was because of Oniel Cousins)
2) His overthrows appeared to largely be due to miscommunication, as there were times where his intended receiver looked confused as to why the ball was delivered in such a manner
3) He looked to throw rather than scramble in most situations, while the temptation to scramble was largely negated by the Eagles having at least one man stay focused on Taylor's movement

The main thing that Taylor needs to work on his mechanics, as his delivery seemed to have an awkward baseball wind-up that caused some throws to be later than they needed to be. Decision-making is an obvious area that needs to be improved, but that can only come with time and film study.

I won't let Taylor completely off the hook and say it was a good performance, but it wasn't immensely horrid and there were still some redeeming qualities. I say he's at least a year or two away from being a viable backup, but I could easily be proven wrong over these next three auditions.

[UMDan]

I think the O-line issues didn't help Tyrod look good or anything. He's not great but he has potential. I think I'd feel more comfortable with someone more experienced there, but I'd feel the same about the WR position.

And yes, Cousins needs to go. He's never impressed me.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1313131501' post='747189']
Thanks to NFL.com's Preseason Live, I've been able to take a look at the footage of the game.

At a glance (and this is without really studying the footage), Tyrod Taylor did better than my knee-jerk reaction. While watching the game live, I thought he did horribly, rookie or not.

However, upon looking at the replay, Taylor did some good things for being a rookie in his first NFL action:

1) He didn't panic; while his movement would indicate that he has happy feet, he merely shifted the pocket on several plays where the offensive line broke down (the majority of which was because of Oniel Cousins)
2) His overthrows appeared to largely be due to miscommunication, as there were times where his intended receiver looked confused as to why the ball was delivered in such a manner
3) He looked to throw rather than scramble in most situations, while the temptation to scramble was largely negated by the Eagles having at least one man stay focused on Taylor's movement

The main thing that Taylor needs to work on his mechanics, as his delivery seemed to have an awkward baseball wind-up that caused some throws to be later than they needed to be. Decision-making is an obvious area that needs to be improved, but that can only come with time and film study.

I won't let Taylor completely off the hook and say it was a good performance, but it wasn't immensely horrid and there were still some redeeming qualities. I say he's at least a year or two away from being a viable backup, but I could easily be proven wrong over these next three auditions.
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Agreed.

There is only one thing I would argue though. He had 11 practices and had HORRIBLE protection.

Based on that alone, I'd call his performance outstanding. IMO, most first rounders would have responded with the same level of play he displayed considering the circumstances.

[littleray27]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1313131501' post='747189']
Thanks to NFL.com's Preseason Live, I've been able to take a look at the footage of the game.

At a glance (and this is without really studying the footage), Tyrod Taylor did better than my knee-jerk reaction. While watching the game live, I thought he did horribly, rookie or not.

However, upon looking at the replay, Taylor did some good things for being a rookie in his first NFL action:

1) He didn't panic; while his movement would indicate that he has happy feet, he merely shifted the pocket on several plays where the offensive line broke down (the majority of which was because of Oniel Cousins)
2) His overthrows appeared to largely be due to miscommunication, as there were times where his intended receiver looked confused as to why the ball was delivered in such a manner
3) He looked to throw rather than scramble in most situations, while the temptation to scramble was largely negated by the Eagles having at least one man stay focused on Taylor's movement

The main thing that Taylor needs to work on his mechanics, as his delivery seemed to have an awkward baseball wind-up that caused some throws to be later than they needed to be. Decision-making is an obvious area that needs to be improved, but that can only come with time and film study.

I won't let Taylor completely off the hook and say it was a good performance, but it wasn't immensely horrid and there were still some redeeming qualities. I say he's at least a year or two away from being a viable backup, but I could easily be proven wrong over these next three auditions.
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Great breakdown, and I couldn't agree with you any more. I wasn't expecting him to go out there and light it up and be spot on perfect. He can easily work on his flaws and try to correct them from watching film and practice, like you said as well.

Even though the replay didn't look like he was that seriously hurt (when they took him to the locker room) I loved that he showed heart and came right back in a few plays later as well. I'm not sold and 100% comfortable with him being the sole #2 as of right now, but I will say that he sure did open my eyes alot more as the game went on and shows great potential in alot of areas.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='littleray27' timestamp='1313134103' post='747209']
Great breakdown, and I couldn't agree with you any more. I wasn't expecting him to go out there and light it up and be spot on perfect. He can easily work on his flaws and try to correct them from watching film and practice, like you said as well.

Even though the replay didn't look like he was that seriously hurt (when they took him to the locker room) I loved that he showed heart and came right back in a few plays later as well. I'm not sold and 100% comfortable with him being the sole #2 as of right now, but I will say that he sure did open my eyes alot more as the game went on and shows great potential in alot of areas.
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Bear in mind, I'll probably be more critical once I'm able to sit down and watch the replay and pause and take notes, but for now, he appeared to play better than I initially thought just at a glance.

I see Tyrod Taylor getting the majority of snaps in Preseason Week 2 before Hunter Cantwell gets the spotlight in Week 3 and Week 4.

[littleray27]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1313134595' post='747218']
Bear in mind, I'll probably be more critical once I'm able to sit down and watch the replay and pause and take notes, but for now, he appeared to play better than I initially thought just at a glance.

I see Tyrod Taylor getting the majority of snaps in Preseason Week 2 before Hunter Cantwell gets the spotlight in Week 3 and Week 4.
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Oh for sure, I'm not giving him a complete pass on the mistakes he did make. I was just really skeptical about not having a #2 behind Joe, and Harbs/Cam/Oz going into this so far with Taylor being the #2 and having really no more experience than rookie experience behind Joe. I will be more critical on him come next week as well, and I hope the coaches and Oz will be as well, because the clock wont stop ticking and the sooner the better if they can get or even find a vet to come in and back Joe up, learn the playbook etc. etc. I was pleasantly surprised with Taylor, being this was his very first NFL action he has ever seen, besides playing against his own players in camp.

[1/28/01]

Yeah, this is a clear example of the stat line not showing the entire story. I think, in a few weeks, we'll see more of the "NFL ready" Taylor. Anxious to see him progress!

[ravensgirl20]

I won't lie and say I wasn't concerned last night. I did think he improved as the game went on. Being in your first primetime game had to be hard all things condsidered. I wonder if he would have looked better with the starters in with him?

[K-Dog]

I dont think that RIGHT NOW he is back up material. The potential exists for sure. I still say we need some with a few starts under their belt

[CorvusCorax]

Given the lack of pass protection he had to deal with I say he did fairly well. There were moments where he looked to be progressing. He was looking to throw and not trying to scramble out. Still too early to tell, let's see how he performs week 2.

I can feel for these rookies. No OTAs or Mini camps to learn and grow from, thrown right into the fire and asked to perform.

[Ed_Reed20]

He certainly showed promise for the future.

[berad]

The OL didn't give him much help, but Tyrod wasn't that great in his first outing.

Made some great plays with his legs but his throws were only so-so. The first INT shouldn't have been thrown - too high and Torrey was blanketed. That said, Torrey could've made an effort for the ball, possibly break-up the pass. The second INT was a killer, in the endzone nullifying a scoring chance.

His accuracy was a little wild last night but I'm sure he'll improve. It was, after all, only the first pre-season game.

[ravensdfan]

I wouldn't say his performance was poor. I also wouldn't say it was average. He didn't get a lot of help from the O line here so you have to make some adjustment to account for that. I see a lot of potential here and I have all idea that he will be a solid back-up for us and at some point a starter in the NFL (probably not for us unless he sticks around a long time). Right now I don't see him being ready to be our #2 go-to guy. I don't see him getting ready to be that guy in the next 3 weeks either.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1313152804' post='747380']
[b]Yeah, this is a clear example of the stat line not showing the entire story. I think, in a few weeks, we'll see more of the "NFL ready" Taylor. Anxious to see him progress![/b][/quote]

EXACTLY!

the more he is on the field in the preseason the more comfortable he will become. i noticed (like others) the poor protection and miscommunication between Taylor and the WRs. that should improve as well. all in all....i am proud of my local home boy and can't wait to sub him in from time to time on Madden12. LOL!

~Mili

[jaege]

I think he did pretty good for a rookie, and considering the sieve that we call an o-line. I do not know that we should depend on him as our back-up just yet, but he has a great deal of potential.

[T3hRaven]

Taylor is a late round draft pick starting in his first NFL like game, I think he did alright. With all the trouble on the OL I don't think we got to see that much from him.

If Flacco goes down for a while the season is over, so I don't have a problem with Taylor being the backup. What little cap space we have left would be better spent on some help at OL than at backup QB.

[Militant X 1]

the O-line protection was horrible! nearly every snap Tyrod was running for his life! and yet, he handled it with poise.

i noticed something else that i haven't seen anyone mention. and that is the fact that Tyrod threw a TD pass to Berry that hit him in the chest and he dropped it!

~Mili

[TheRavenouseD2008]

actualy that and there is the issue of his height he is only 6'1 most qbs in the league that can lead are 6'3+ that 2 inches can be all the diff between a completion and interception, I feel like we are in Anthony Wright V2.0

[poedacrow]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1313193427' post='749153']
the O-line protection was horrible! nearly every snap Tyrod was running for his life! and yet, he handled it with poise.

i noticed something else that i haven't seen anyone mention. and that is the fact that Tyrod threw a TD pass to Berry that hit him in the chest and he dropped it!

~Mili
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[b]"i noticed something else that i haven't seen anyone mention. and that is the fact that Tyrod threw a TD pass to Berry that hit him in the chest and he dropped it!"[/b]

Yup...I noticed that play...Taylor scrambled right and threw a pretty good pass to Berry who then proceeded to drop it (dang!). I think he did pretty good for a late round draft pick in his first pre-season game and with an O-line that made Phillys 2nd &3rd Defense look brilliant. I'd feel better if Bulger was here...but he isn't so looks like its either him or Cantwell. Good job, considering.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='poedacrow' timestamp='1313197430' post='749286']
[b]"i noticed something else that i haven't seen anyone mention. and that is the fact that Tyrod threw a TD pass to Berry that hit him in the chest and he dropped it!"[/b]

Yup...I noticed that play...Taylor scrambled right and threw a pretty good pass to Berry who then proceeded to drop it (dang!). I think he did pretty good for a late round draft pick in his first pre-season game and with an O-line that made Phillys 2nd &3rd Defense look brilliant. I'd feel better if Bulger was here...but he isn't so looks like its either him or Cantwell. Good job, considering.
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Not a big deal, but he scrambled left, not right. Also, LaQuan Williams let a TD slip thru his hands as well.

[poedacrow]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1313197719' post='749292']
Not a big deal, but he scrambled left, not right. Also, LaQuan Williams let a TD slip thru his hands as well.
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...yep...my bad, it was left.

[jimmysmith3]

I think that we'll see quite a bit of progression from Tyrod each week because by next week's game he'll have almost doubled his practice time and then by the 4th game he'll have tripled his practice time from this week. The progression in the preseason will be more than we are used to seeing, especially from a QB who's likely only had the playbook for 10 or 11 days before his first game.

[hawkprey]

He did well, despite playing with backups and against backups. He's probably better than Troy Smith, who looked even worse in the preseason.

[PuRock]

[quote name='poedacrow' timestamp='1313197430' post='749286']
[b]"i noticed something else that i haven't seen anyone mention. and that is the fact that Tyrod threw a TD pass to Berry that hit him in the chest and he dropped it!"[/b]

Yup...I noticed that play...Taylor scrambled right and threw a pretty good pass to Berry who then proceeded to drop it (dang!). I think he did pretty good for a late round draft pick in his first pre-season game and with an O-line that made Phillys 2nd &3rd Defense look brilliant. I'd feel better if Bulger was here..[b].but he isn't so looks like its either him or Cantwell.[/b] Good job, considering.
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Cantwell is out of the picture. Don't count on him being anything other than practice squad fodder. The team had no desire to give him much time last night. They want Tyrod to get a ton of experience fast.

[HaX]

he did well for having to run for his life nearly every play!

[POE]

I think under the circumstances of playing with only a week of this teams influence under his belt, the oline failing time after time, and not having all of the weapons the team has to offer he did really well for his first time out there. He was a late round draft pick and he showed that he has the athleticism and poise to be a threat on the field. With some work on technique and obviously time to learn the offense and the players he should be more than capable of the back-up role.