After-Game Thoughts

[1/28/01]

Game is on again on NFLN - FYI

[sup?]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1313168678' post='747907']
Game is on again on NFLN - FYI
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You beat me to it.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='sup?' timestamp='1313168788' post='747919']
You beat me to it.
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Ha, you're home too? Busy Friday?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1313166355' post='747824']
Did anyone notice how accurate the reports out of TC were? Art, Kruger, and Doss all lived up to expectations. LaQuan Williams and Cary Williams were as advertized, and unfortunately so were Webb and the O-line.

Basically everything we've heard about individual players out of training camp was reflected in this game.
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Very true. Let's hope Art, Kruger, LaQuan, Cary and Doss can continue to ball next week, and some other young players join them in standing out.

I don't know if the o-line will improve, but the coaches will certainly drill them all week.

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1313166404' post='747825']
They both have had a few years to work on their technique. For it to be this bad after that is inexcusable
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I can't argue with that. Firing the coach at his point doesn't seem like a solution to me though.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1313162877' post='747724']
Your commentary is priceless... YOU should have been the announcer last night...
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That's not me, but yeah the commentary is pretty funny.

[evil-eye1]

[quote name='dirtybird10' timestamp='1313162232' post='747701']
I don't know if we blitzed too much, or we just had alot of lapses in coverage. I personally think it was the later, but I may have to re watch the game. It really didn't seem like we were brining the house very often. Seemed the most consistant pressure was coming from Suggs, Kruger, and Jones.
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im not saying we brought the house. im only saying that when we did pressure the QB, it came off of blitzes. Kruge's sack was on a blitz...and im not one who think he will become a sack guy, btw. Kruger will always be a 'tweener(DE/LB)...never good enuff to be either.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='evil-eye1' timestamp='1313173162' post='748280']
im not saying we brought the house. [b]im only saying that when we did pressure the QB, it came off of blitzes[/b]. Kruge's sack was on a blitz...and im not one who think he will become a sack guy, btw. [b]Kruger will always be a 'tweener(DE/LB)...never good enuff to be either.[/b]
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That's not necessarily true. I noticed Suggs, Kruger, Jones Kindle and McPhee all beating o-lineman and getting into the backfield.

Being a hybrid doesn't necessarily mean a player isn't good enough to play either position effectively either.

[FerrariFan87]

Cousins was getting destroyed today on the Norris and Davis show on 105.7 The Fan... they were getting nicknames for Cousins, some of which included: The Matador, Turnstile, EZ Pass, and The Doorman.

I couldn't stop laughing.

[scrock]

[b]Game thoughts: [/b]

[b]Offense[/b] - The O-line needs work still, Oher still getting beat and taking penalties, the RT position is weak, and there isnt any depth on the OL

TE Dennis Pitta looked good, and when Joe was able to stand in the pocket he made some nice throws but that didnt happen much because of the OL

Torrey Smith needs to learn, he showed he was a rookie on a few plays but thats to be expected, and thats another reason Lee Evans was brought in

[b]Defense[/b] - Welcome back pass rush we sure did miss you, guys like Kruger and Art Jones were getting to the QB but a lot of missed tackles which can be cleaned up easily enough. The secondary was sloppy and that could be do to rust but Cary Williams and Bernard Pollard made an impact. I really like Cary WIlliams, I liked him last year but he was mostly used on special teams, Id like to see him play CB some this year, he's a ballhawk

Overall, it was a sloppy game and you can point to plenty of negative things...but there was a lot of good things in there too.

If we can get the OL better at run blocking and pass protecting and get some depth we will be good....also, I still think we need a veteran backup QB but we may have to go with Tyrod if no one is out there or we just dont have the money left. Which brings me to Ngata, get him signed!!

[Moderator 3]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1313174045' post='748348']
Cousins was getting destroyed today on the Norris and Davis show on 105.7 The Fan... they were getting nicknames for Cousins, some of which included: The Matador, Turnstile, EZ Pass, and The Doorman.

I couldn't stop laughing.
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They're all good, but "EZ Pass" cracked me up. I think I'll steal that one.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1313174045' post='748348']
Cousins was getting destroyed today on the Norris and Davis show on 105.7 The Fan... they were getting nicknames for Cousins, some of which included: The Matador, Turnstile, EZ Pass, and The Doorman.

I couldn't stop laughing.
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[i]Olé[/i] was my favorite nickname.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1313174561' post='748391']
[i]Olé[/i] was my favorite nickname.
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Yes, that was a great one as well... I'm with Mod 3 though, EZ Pass is priceless.

[RavensAllTheWay]

I was wondering why us (and the Eagles for that matter) played such soft coverage. A lot of people on here are destroying Webb, but outside of the Chad Hall reception where he turned him loose in the third quarter, I think all of the completions he gave up we quick passes in very soft coverage. He's not a pure cover corner, like Foxworth, Williams and hopefully Jimmy are. Tyrod did a lot of that too on the other side. He checked out of a running play and threw a quick pass to a wide open Doss, who dodged his man and picked up the first. There were other quick passes like that, I remember one to LaQuan as well.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1313117647' post='746739']
Pass rush looks good, specifically Kindle.
RB's impressed.
Cousins looked horrible. Reid not too bad, some false start penalties which can be costly but can be worked on.
What little I saw of Laquan (sp?) I liked.
Cary Williams showed up for this game.
Kruger, good work. Jones, good work.
I also think we are alright at TE.

As I said in the game thread, these guys need to chase some chickens around. They'll learn how to shadow their man and TACKLE.

Edit: I forgot Pollard. He impressed.

[b]I don't think Tyrod is ready to be our #2 guy. We need a serviceable vet.[/b]
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I gotta disagree with you on Taylor, you fix the O line you fix the QB, plus we will need him if the Line isnt fixed. Because Flacco will be hurt with the pocket crashing so fast. As soon as the ball is hiked, the line is crashing. Flacco or Taylor had less than 2 seconds if that to get rid of it, We wont need a deep threat if the that continues. Taylor can scramble, i say let him do his thing because the rest werent.

[SecretAgentMan]

Give Reid a chance, he will do better than Cousins, I know it. Our corners (outside of Carr) were decent, Pass Rush could be ustoppable if Jimmy Smith lives up to his potential. Now, if Brandon Mckine could do good enough, than our defensive line could be deadly. Pollard played good, Pagano did a decent job. Our passing defense shouldn't be much of a problem next week, Foxworth will be back, and Jimmy Smith will get more playing time.

[Militant X 1]

they have work to do to get back to being a SB caliber team. but hey! this is what preseason is for and i believe that our boys will be more crisp and on point in P2.

~Mili

[ChrisAllen]

I watched all but the first drive of the game (Only saw the game once) But here's my initial thoughts.

PASSING:

Didn't see much of Flacco because I missed the first drive. I did see that Pitta highlight catch, however. Sweet pass.

Tyrod looked really flustered and jumpy early on. He got more comfortable as the game went on but I still don't think I'd want him as a number two at this point. I'd rather have Brodie Croyle (Best FA option available.) His scrambling and ability to run were impressive obviously. Doesn't have that Michael Vick level of vision but he picks up some really important yards with his feet in a few situations, as well as avoiding a few sacks. One big thing I disliked about him is that he seemed to almost always throw checkdowns instead of pushing the ball downfield, he almost alwyas hit a back/tightend on a short route. Not entirely his fault though. By the end of preseason he could very well be a viable number two.

RUSHING:

Parmele ran with authority. I was never really a fan of his before but he grew on me a bit on thursday. He ran angry. Could be a strong third option after Rice/Williams.

Allen hardly got the ball. No real specifics here, I gave his limited performance a 'C'.

Berry looked pretty solid. Not amazing but decent. He was quick footed and seemed to be somewhat difficult to bring down. Sucked to see him drop that TD pass, but he was surrounded and took a clean hit, so its not entirely his fault.

RECIEVING:

Torrey was catchless, but his speed will be a weapon, I have faith in that. His burst off the line against Asomugha on that play was impressive. Perhaps he needs a little more of a high strung motor.

Doss's hands were great. Didn't drop anything. He's also not afraid to get physical with his size. He looks like he has what it takes to be a lesser Anquan for us early on. Good 3'rd down option.

LaQuan really impressed me. I didn't expect much out of him, figured he was just one of those guys waiting to be cut. But he displayed a great ability to get open and run routes (Albeit agianst 3'rd/4'th team guys). His hands were fairly average. Made a couple of pretty good catches, didn't bobble the ball much, but dropped one on the goaline that was kind of unsettling.

Pitta could start for us week one. Excellent hands. Not very fast, but he showed a knack for getting open. Great on slants on quick-ins. He caught one beautiful strike down the field for about twenty yards early on. That was the kind of catch that playmakers make. Great at positioning his body and getting good position whilst the ball is airborne.

All of our running backs looked to have average recieving skills over all.

BLOCKING:

Overall it was abysmal and really is the only thing I'm seriously worried about. Our OT's looked.... lackluster, and thats sugarcoating it.

Cousins blocking ability was laughable. Garbage in pass protection. Horrible first step, horrible set up, horrible footwork. He leaned into blocks too much. He won't get it done for us. not even as a backup. Move him inside and maybe, MAYBE he has a chance of making this team.

Jah Reid played pretty physiacl. Seemed to have a nasty personality behind his blocking. His technique and overall blocking ability on the other hand were merely decent. I wouldn't start him right away, but between him and Cousins theres no debate to be made. Hopefully he'll show some solid improvement over the preseason and (Maybe I'm expecting too much here) be skilled enought to start come week one.

Our 2'nd/3'rd team of interior linemen seemed to struggle at times as well. They seemed to have little success stonewalling their assignments at the point of attack and the pocket collapsed a few times because of it. Can't recall any one of them that especially impressed or disappointed, but as a unit they seemed a little lacking at times. Not terrible over all though.

PASS RUSH:

The pass rush was by far our most impressive aspect of the game.

Cody and Ngata did a good job of wrecking the pocket (in the limited snaps Ngata saw). Both were anchors in the middle and seldom gave an inch to their blockers.

Kruger was very impressive. I expected alot of him, always been a fan, and he didn't disappoint. He nabbed an early sack with a clean inside move. He won more battles than he lost on the edge. Beat his man several times to break into the back field. I feel the weight he added has helped. He didn't looked incredibly fast or explosive, but he definately looked strong. Didn't lose hardly any ground in run support. His pass rush moves looked quite nice.

McPhee got a few good pressures, as did Jones, Redding and Kindle. All played well.

We brought a few defensive back blitzes that worked out ok. Webb got a clean rush in.

The one giant and I mean giant, problem with our rush was our inability to finish the plays we pressured. Missed tackles in the backfield killed us. I think it was like three sacks we missed out on that we should have had. But its the first preseason game. This should improve.

COVERAGE:

To be honest, I dont have alot to say here. I was too busy watching the pass rush to pay so much attention to the back end. But here are my thoughts.

Our safties did a good job of putting a lid on their recievers. Didn't give up anything too bad, except a reception that Ed Reed gave up. But he just opted out due to the setting of preseason footbal (Thats my belief anyway).

I don't think Webb looked as bad as many are saying. Yes, he blew coverage a few times, but he showed good reaction time and closing speed to completions made underneath. He played a very mediocre game, but not terrible.

Didn't pay enough attention to Carr, but some unlikely completion were made when he was on the field so I figure he may not have been great.

I LOVED our safety play. Zibby was a nonfactor, but Pollard and Nakamura reall really impressed me. Pollard seemed to be around the ball and showed good instincts. He grabbed a clean INT on a deep strike. Nakamura, I feel, could start for alot of teams in this league with just a little more work. He showed good speed and quickness. I thought he was great in run support, rocketing down to the line as soon as the handoff occured. He didn't make any boneheaded moves, and although he didn't do anything spectacular, he played an all around solid game. One of these two will start opening day. NAKAMURA FTW! Always liked him. His one problem, in my opinion, is his tackling technique. He seemed too eager to go low on guys a few times, which resulted in him getting hurdled (Sort of) at one point. If he can get more physical and learn to take guys on up high, I think he could be pretty good.

RUN DEFENSE:

Looked Herculian, as usual. Most of their runs were about 4-5 yards. That sounds bad, but we were strong and made some good stops in the redzone and on 3'rd downs. We also didn't give give up anything more than maybe 12 yards or so. We were especially strong up the middle.

SPECAIL TEAMS:

Koch looked good as usual. Cundiff made a FG from 53. Sliced one just outside the upright on a 55'er. But going into the season I'll feel we'll have a kicker who will nail 50-55 yards more often than not. Good kick/punt unit overall.



That was super long. But that's just how I am. People will disagree, but we've all only seen the game 1-2 times. Those are my thoughts. Thanks if you had the patience to read that wall.

[ChrisAllen]

[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1313156294' post='747461']
Horrible offensive line play. The worst I've ever seen, truth be told. QBs getting no protection all night long, and an unbelievable amount of penalties. They need to tighten up their play and now.

[b]The receivers weren't impressive... Doss was OK. Everybody else was worthless. Dennis Pitta impressed me most of the time, but that dropped pass was frustrating to see.[/b] The running game was awful.

The defense was getting great pressure on some snaps, which was good to see, but the secondary wasn't doing a good job and all positions were failing miserably at tackling. I couldn't even keep count of how many missed tackles I saw, it was incredible.

So, my biggest thoughts are:

1) O-line can't block
2) Defenders can't tackle
3) Receivers can't get open.

Let's hope this stuff gets resolved, or we're in big trouble.
I'm actually shocked we kept them to only one TD all night.
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I disagree with the bolded statement. Doss looked good, yes, but LaQuan turned alot of heads thursday night. That drop by Pitta, I feel, was largely due to a poor pass by Taylor. Pitta had to make an awkward body adjustment and it made a usual easy pass a very difficult one to bring in.

[Ravensstrike4424]

[quote name='ChrisAllen' timestamp='1313200139' post='749363']
I watched all but the first drive of the game (Only saw the game once) But here's my initial thoughts.

PASSING:

Didn't see much of Flacco because I missed the first drive. I did see that Pitta highlight catch, however. Sweet pass.

Tyrod looked really flustered and jumpy early on. He got more comfortable as the game went on but I still don't think I'd want him as a number two at this point. I'd rather have Brodie Croyle (Best FA option available.) His scrambling and ability to run were impressive obviously. Doesn't have that Michael Vick level of vision but he picks up some really important yards with his feet in a few situations, as well as avoiding a few sacks. One big thing I disliked about him is that he seemed to almost always throw checkdowns instead of pushing the ball downfield, he almost alwyas hit a back/tightend on a short route. Not entirely his fault though. By the end of preseason he could very well be a viable number two.

RUSHING:

Parmele ran with authority. I was never really a fan of his before but he grew on me a bit on thursday. He ran angry. Could be a strong third option after Rice/Williams.

Allen hardly got the ball. No real specifics here, I gave his limited performance a 'C'.

Berry looked pretty solid. Not amazing but decent. He was quick footed and seemed to be somewhat difficult to bring down. Sucked to see him drop that TD pass, but he was surrounded and took a clean hit, so its not entirely his fault.

RECIEVING:

Torrey was catchless, but his speed will be a weapon, I have faith in that. His burst off the line against Asomugha on that play was impressive. Perhaps he needs a little more of a high strung motor.

Doss's hands were great. Didn't drop anything. He's also not afraid to get physical with his size. He looks like he has what it takes to be a lesser Anquan for us early on. Good 3'rd down option.

LaQuan really impressed me. I didn't expect much out of him, figured he was just one of those guys waiting to be cut. But he displayed a great ability to get open and run routes (Albeit agianst 3'rd/4'th team guys). His hands were fairly average. Made a couple of pretty good catches, didn't bobble the ball much, but dropped one on the goaline that was kind of unsettling.

Pitta could start for us week one. Excellent hands. Not very fast, but he showed a knack for getting open. Great on slants on quick-ins. He caught one beautiful strike down the field for about twenty yards early on. That was the kind of catch that playmakers make. Great at positioning his body and getting good position whilst the ball is airborne.

All of our running backs looked to have average recieving skills over all.

BLOCKING:

Overall it was abysmal and really is the only thing I'm seriously worried about. Our OT's looked.... lackluster, and thats sugarcoating it.

Cousins blocking ability was laughable. Garbage in pass protection. Horrible first step, horrible set up, horrible footwork. He leaned into blocks too much. He won't get it done for us. not even as a backup. Move him inside and maybe, MAYBE he has a chance of making this team.

Jah Reid played pretty physiacl. Seemed to have a nasty personality behind his blocking. His technique and overall blocking ability on the other hand were merely decent. I wouldn't start him right away, but between him and Cousins theres no debate to be made. Hopefully he'll show some solid improvement over the preseason and (Maybe I'm expecting too much here) be skilled enought to start come week one.

Our 2'nd/3'rd team of interior linemen seemed to struggle at times as well. They seemed to have little success stonewalling their assignments at the point of attack and the pocket collapsed a few times because of it. Can't recall any one of them that especially impressed or disappointed, but as a unit they seemed a little lacking at times. Not terrible over all though.

PASS RUSH:

The pass rush was by far our most impressive aspect of the game.

Cody and Ngata did a good job of wrecking the pocket (in the limited snaps Ngata saw). Both were anchors in the middle and seldom gave an inch to their blockers.

Kruger was very impressive. I expected alot of him, always been a fan, and he didn't disappoint. He nabbed an early sack with a clean inside move. He won more battles than he lost on the edge. Beat his man several times to break into the back field. I feel the weight he added has helped. He didn't looked incredibly fast or explosive, but he definately looked strong. Didn't lose hardly any ground in run support. His pass rush moves looked quite nice.

McPhee got a few good pressures, as did Jones, Redding and Kindle. All played well.

We brought a few defensive back blitzes that worked out ok. Webb got a clean rush in.

The one giant and I mean giant, problem with our rush was our inability to finish the plays we pressured. Missed tackles in the backfield killed us. I think it was like three sacks we missed out on that we should have had. But its the first preseason game. This should improve.

COVERAGE:

To be honest, I dont have alot to say here. I was too busy watching the pass rush to pay so much attention to the back end. But here are my thoughts.

Our safties did a good job of putting a lid on their recievers. Didn't give up anything too bad, except a reception that Ed Reed gave up. But he just opted out due to the setting of preseason footbal (Thats my belief anyway).

I don't think Webb looked as bad as many are saying. Yes, he blew coverage a few times, but he showed good reaction time and closing speed to completions made underneath. He played a very mediocre game, but not terrible.

Didn't pay enough attention to Carr, but some unlikely completion were made when he was on the field so I figure he may not have been great.

I LOVED our safety play. Zibby was a nonfactor, but Pollard and Nakamura reall really impressed me. Pollard seemed to be around the ball and showed good instincts. He grabbed a clean INT on a deep strike. Nakamura, I feel, could start for alot of teams in this league with just a little more work. He showed good speed and quickness. I thought he was great in run support, rocketing down to the line as soon as the handoff occured. He didn't make any boneheaded moves, and although he didn't do anything spectacular, he played an all around solid game. One of these two will start opening day. NAKAMURA FTW! Always liked him. His one problem, in my opinion, is his tackling technique. He seemed too eager to go low on guys a few times, which resulted in him getting hurdled (Sort of) at one point. If he can get more physical and learn to take guys on up high, I think he could be pretty good.

RUN DEFENSE:

Looked Herculian, as usual. Most of their runs were about 4-5 yards. That sounds bad, but we were strong and made some good stops in the redzone and on 3'rd downs. We also didn't give give up anything more than maybe 12 yards or so. We were especially strong up the middle.

SPECAIL TEAMS:

Koch looked good as usual. Cundiff made a FG from 53. Sliced one just outside the upright on a 55'er. But going into the season I'll feel we'll have a kicker who will nail 50-55 yards more often than not. Good kick/punt unit overall.



That was super long. But that's just how I am. People will disagree, but we've all only seen the game 1-2 times. Those are my thoughts. Thanks if you had the patience to read that wall.
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I agree with most of this,but also this is only first pre season game and we didnt have a off season

[ChrisAllen]

[quote name='Ravensstrike4424' timestamp='1313201439' post='749404']
I agree with most of this,but also this is only first pre season game and we didnt have a off season
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I feel the same way. I don't understand why over 50% of the community is freaking out over it.

Thanks for reading my novel.

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='ChrisAllen' timestamp='1313200139' post='749363']
I watched all but the first drive of the game (Only saw the game once) But here's my initial thoughts.

PASSING:

Didn't see much of Flacco because I missed the first drive. I did see that Pitta highlight catch, however. Sweet pass.

Tyrod looked really flustered and jumpy early on. He got more comfortable as the game went on but I still don't think I'd want him as a number two at this point. I'd rather have Brodie Croyle (Best FA option available.) His scrambling and ability to run were impressive obviously. Doesn't have that Michael Vick level of vision but he picks up some really important yards with his feet in a few situations, as well as avoiding a few sacks. One big thing I disliked about him is that he seemed to almost always throw checkdowns instead of pushing the ball downfield, he almost alwyas hit a back/tightend on a short route. Not entirely his fault though. By the end of preseason he could very well be a viable number two.

RUSHING:

Parmele ran with authority. I was never really a fan of his before but he grew on me a bit on thursday. He ran angry. Could be a strong third option after Rice/Williams.

Allen hardly got the ball. No real specifics here, I gave his limited performance a 'C'.

Berry looked pretty solid. Not amazing but decent. He was quick footed and seemed to be somewhat difficult to bring down. Sucked to see him drop that TD pass, but he was surrounded and took a clean hit, so its not entirely his fault.

RECIEVING:

Torrey was catchless, but his speed will be a weapon, I have faith in that. His burst off the line against Asomugha on that play was impressive. Perhaps he needs a little more of a high strung motor.

Doss's hands were great. Didn't drop anything. He's also not afraid to get physical with his size. He looks like he has what it takes to be a lesser Anquan for us early on. Good 3'rd down option.

LaQuan really impressed me. I didn't expect much out of him, figured he was just one of those guys waiting to be cut. But he displayed a great ability to get open and run routes (Albeit agianst 3'rd/4'th team guys). His hands were fairly average. Made a couple of pretty good catches, didn't bobble the ball much, but dropped one on the goaline that was kind of unsettling.

Pitta could start for us week one. Excellent hands. Not very fast, but he showed a knack for getting open. Great on slants on quick-ins. He caught one beautiful strike down the field for about twenty yards early on. That was the kind of catch that playmakers make. Great at positioning his body and getting good position whilst the ball is airborne.

All of our running backs looked to have average recieving skills over all.

BLOCKING:

Overall it was abysmal and really is the only thing I'm seriously worried about. Our OT's looked.... lackluster, and thats sugarcoating it.

Cousins blocking ability was laughable. Garbage in pass protection. Horrible first step, horrible set up, horrible footwork. He leaned into blocks too much. He won't get it done for us. not even as a backup. Move him inside and maybe, MAYBE he has a chance of making this team.

Jah Reid played pretty physiacl. Seemed to have a nasty personality behind his blocking. His technique and overall blocking ability on the other hand were merely decent. I wouldn't start him right away, but between him and Cousins theres no debate to be made. Hopefully he'll show some solid improvement over the preseason and (Maybe I'm expecting too much here) be skilled enought to start come week one.

Our 2'nd/3'rd team of interior linemen seemed to struggle at times as well. They seemed to have little success stonewalling their assignments at the point of attack and the pocket collapsed a few times because of it. Can't recall any one of them that especially impressed or disappointed, but as a unit they seemed a little lacking at times. Not terrible over all though.

PASS RUSH:

The pass rush was by far our most impressive aspect of the game.

Cody and Ngata did a good job of wrecking the pocket (in the limited snaps Ngata saw). Both were anchors in the middle and seldom gave an inch to their blockers.

Kruger was very impressive. I expected alot of him, always been a fan, and he didn't disappoint. He nabbed an early sack with a clean inside move. He won more battles than he lost on the edge. Beat his man several times to break into the back field. I feel the weight he added has helped. He didn't looked incredibly fast or explosive, but he definately looked strong. Didn't lose hardly any ground in run support. His pass rush moves looked quite nice.

McPhee got a few good pressures, as did Jones, Redding and Kindle. All played well.

We brought a few defensive back blitzes that worked out ok. Webb got a clean rush in.

The one giant and I mean giant, problem with our rush was our inability to finish the plays we pressured. Missed tackles in the backfield killed us. I think it was like three sacks we missed out on that we should have had. But its the first preseason game. This should improve.

COVERAGE:

To be honest, I dont have alot to say here. I was too busy watching the pass rush to pay so much attention to the back end. But here are my thoughts.

Our safties did a good job of putting a lid on their recievers. Didn't give up anything too bad, except a reception that Ed Reed gave up. But he just opted out due to the setting of preseason footbal (Thats my belief anyway).

I don't think Webb looked as bad as many are saying. Yes, he blew coverage a few times, but he showed good reaction time and closing speed to completions made underneath. He played a very mediocre game, but not terrible.

Didn't pay enough attention to Carr, but some unlikely completion were made when he was on the field so I figure he may not have been great.

I LOVED our safety play. Zibby was a nonfactor, but Pollard and Nakamura reall really impressed me. Pollard seemed to be around the ball and showed good instincts. He grabbed a clean INT on a deep strike. Nakamura, I feel, could start for alot of teams in this league with just a little more work. He showed good speed and quickness. I thought he was great in run support, rocketing down to the line as soon as the handoff occured. He didn't make any boneheaded moves, and although he didn't do anything spectacular, he played an all around solid game. One of these two will start opening day. NAKAMURA FTW! Always liked him. His one problem, in my opinion, is his tackling technique. He seemed too eager to go low on guys a few times, which resulted in him getting hurdled (Sort of) at one point. If he can get more physical and learn to take guys on up high, I think he could be pretty good.

RUN DEFENSE:

Looked Herculian, as usual. Most of their runs were about 4-5 yards. That sounds bad, but we were strong and made some good stops in the redzone and on 3'rd downs. We also didn't give give up anything more than maybe 12 yards or so. We were especially strong up the middle.

SPECAIL TEAMS:

Koch looked good as usual. Cundiff made a FG from 53. Sliced one just outside the upright on a 55'er. But going into the season I'll feel we'll have a kicker who will nail 50-55 yards more often than not. Good kick/punt unit overall.



That was super long. But that's just how I am. People will disagree, but we've all only seen the game 1-2 times. Those are my thoughts. Thanks if you had the patience to read that wall.
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GREAT analysis. I agree with nearly everything.
Just to add... I was watching the secondary very carefully, and right now I feel fairly comfortable with our current roster. We're crazy deep at safety and I'm pretty confident that Carr, Webb, and company can get the job done.

Unfortunately, with D. Jackson, Maclin, S. Smith all not playing, we still managed to let Vick throw all over us. However, we also we were also without Foxworth and Jimmy(for the most part). So, it remains to be seen how effective our d-backs will be this year.

[PuRock]

I just need to get this formality out of the way.

But do you guys remember the 2008 Detroit Lions, preseason? They were Awesome! 4-0 . Too bad that success didn't carry over and they finished 0-16.

2008 Patriots? 0-4. Finished 11-5 with a back-up QB.

This is the NFL, anything is possible and PS is meaningless. Its for evaluating indiiduals. So anybody panicking that we looked bad, while every other team looked great, don't.

I'm just saying....

[Kwothdaraven]

The steelers looked awful as well atleast

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1313203755' post='749455']
GREAT analysis. I agree with nearly everything.
Just to add... I was watching the secondary very carefully, and right now I feel fairly comfortable with our current roster. We're crazy deep at safety and I'm pretty confident that Carr, Webb, and company can get the job done.

Unfortunately, with D. Jackson, Maclin, S. Smith all not playing, we still managed to let Vick throw all over us. However, we also we were also without Foxworth and Jimmy(for the most part). So, it remains to be seen how effective our d-backs will be this year.
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Vick Really didn't throw all over us. He made some great throws, like the TD pass and the first pass of the game. Both were pretty tight coverage by McClain. But his biggest contribution came on plays were we got really good pressure but just couldn't bring him down. The same with Vince Young.

Much like I've said about the offense, the defense has only be working with Pagano's aggressive style opposed to Mattison, for about 10 days. Blitzing is just as much about timing and communication as anything.

That's what allowed Vick, to have success in his first drive. I'm fully confident that if that was a real game, the defense would have adjusted to what Vick and the offense was doing.

[scrock]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1313212121' post='749596']
Vick Really didn't throw all over us. He made some great throws, like the TD pass and the first pass of the game. Both were pretty tight coverage by McClain. But his biggest contribution came on plays were we got really good pressure but just couldn't bring him down. The same with Vince Young.

Much like I've said about the offense, the defense has only be working with Pagano's aggressive style opposed to Mattison, for about 10 days. Blitzing is just as much about timing and communication as anything.

That's what allowed Vick, to have success in his first drive. I'm fully confident that if that was a real game, the defense would have adjusted to what Vick and the offense was doing.
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yes some sloppy tackling, partly because the young guys over pursued or overshot the mark...that will get cleaned up

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1313205529' post='749487']
I just need to get this formality out of the way.

But do you guys remember the 2008 Detroit Lions, preseason? They were Awesome! 4-0 . Too bad that success didn't carry over and they finished 0-16.

2008 Patriots? 0-4. Finished 11-5 with a back-up QB.

This is the NFL, anything is possible and PS is meaningless. Its for evaluating indiiduals. So anybody panicking that we looked bad, while every other team looked great, don't.

I'm just saying....
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Yea the biggest thing about preseason is, it's not a full game.

How many time did the Ravens hold a lead in the 4th quarter last year only to blow the lead? I'll give you a hint, we held a lead in the 4th quarter of every game, expect the playoff loss last year. We lost a total of 5 games, so do the math.

Basically what I'm saying is the Ravens are a team that hardly ever ends the game in the first quarter, be it good or bad. So to judge this first team offense off of 7 days of practice and one quarter of a preseason game isn't productive. imo.

It will take more then 7 days for guys like Leach and the offensive line get in sync. With mean, Ricky and Lee probably won't show their worth in the next preseason game.

I know this is the first act we've seen since the lockout but, it's just preseason. You would think that after watching football for some many years, we wouldn't over react to a scrimmage game.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1313212204' post='749599']
yes some sloppy tackling, partly because the young guys over pursued or overshot the mark...that will get cleaned up
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Oh yea. Like i've said before, we've been in pracitce for 7 days before the game. From August 4th to August 11th.

I challenge anyone to comment on a personal goal they set for themselves that only took 7 days to achieve.

If we as a team played our Super Bowl hopes on the first game of the preseason, then we never had a chance from the start imo.

[Ravensstrike4424]

[quote name='ChrisAllen' timestamp='1313202818' post='749435']
I feel the same way. I don't understand why over 50% of the community is freaking out over it.

Thanks for reading my novel.
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agreeded,people shouldnt be,but o well,anytime =)

[Lost]

Thing is If it was a normal game and Lewis was in that TD woulda probably been an INT since Mc had a chance at deflecting it but was more focused on the tackle so everyone whose tlkn smack we havent released our mean team which is our starting D this year will be ours

[Tyler]

I find it hard to panic when our final Product of a team isn't close to being showcased in the first game. Foxworth was out. Jimmy Smith Played very few snaps. Dickson was out. Birk was out. The list goes on. Do we need some depth on the Offensive Line? Absolutely. We needed Speed at the WR position and Oz worked his magic and Gave up next to nothing for Lee Evans. Similar to what he did when we needed help at CB last year by trading for Wilson. I'm confident he will find some offensive line depth as well. I'm very excited to see the team we put on the field on 9/11.