How the heck is Ed Reed overrated?

[Ravens Reign]

I was just on the espn nfl website and this dude named "KC Joyner" wrote an article about how Ed Reed is the most over paid and overrated safety in the NFL. I wasn't able to read it because im not an ESPNinsider. If any of you guys are insiders, please tell me what this dude was claiming in his article. Thanks!

[willis mcgahee run u over]

I was just on the espn nfl website and this dude named "KC Joyner" wrote an article about how Ed Reed is the most over paid and overrated safety in the NFL. I wasn't able to read it because im not an ESPNinsider. If any of you guys are insiders, please tell me what this dude was claiming in his article. Thanks!

its espn they think everybody thats not a saint or panther is overrated

ed reed fits that category

he is not overrated he is a ball-hawker and the hardest hitting FS in the game besides B-Dawk

[Ravensfan23]

its espn they think everybody thats not a saint or panther is overrated

ed reed fits that category

he is not overrated he is a ball-hawker and the hardest hitting FS in the game besides B-Dawk

I'll give u the fact that he is a hard hitter, but there is no way Eddy hits harder then Sean Taylor. Ed is so many things but the hardest hitter behind B-Dawk is not one of them.

[Tiz]

I was just on the espn nfl website and this dude named "KC Joyner" wrote an article about how Ed Reed is the most over paid and overrated safety in the NFL. I wasn't able to read it because im not an ESPNinsider. If any of you guys are insiders, please tell me what this dude was claiming in his article. Thanks!

Bottom line, they want you to join ESPN Insider so if they say outrageous things you'll be curious as to how they came to the conclusion. It's hard to view a former DPOY as overrated but if they limit it to just last year and the fact that he wasn't as sensational last year as in the past then they have a bit of a leg to stand on.

[Neil]

I'll give u the fact that he is a hard hitter, but there is no way Eddy hits harder then Sean Taylor. Ed is so many things but the hardest hitter behind B-Dawk is not one of them.

Perhaps, but there's no doubt that Ed Reed can, and does, lay big hits. I wouldn't consider him to be a John Lynch 'extra linebacker'-style safety, but he has laid some pretty good licks.

[Ravensfan23]

Perhaps, but there's no doubt that Ed Reed can, and does, lay big hits. I wouldn't consider him to be a John Lynch 'extra linebacker'-style safety, but he has laid some pretty good licks.

Oh no doubt about that, just as Koren Robinson from the vikings.

[willis mcgahee run u over]

Perhaps, but there's no doubt that Ed Reed can, and does, lay big hits. I wouldn't consider him to be a John Lynch 'extra linebacker'-style safety, but he has laid some pretty good licks.

well yeah hes not like lawyer milloy,dexter jackson,roy williams,adrian wilson,mike brown or chris hope

but sean taylor...he hits harder than sean taylor believe me

i think he could actually tackle tiki barber or stephen jackson

[Raven07]

oh Ed Reed DEFINATELY hits alot harder than most safeties in the league right now, all you have to do is go and look at his game films and the punishing hits he gave on some people....incredible, simply incredible

[Ed_Reed20]

There are many people who say Reed is overrated . However, as a Reed fan and a Ravens, I know many of these people are just biased b/c they hate the Ravens. I've heard people say all Reed does it sit in the zone and wait for the pass rush to get to QBs for the easy pick. I've heard he has horrible tackling technique, he makes too many crucial gambles and he wouldn't be able to survive in man coverage. Some of these claims do have truth but many are exaggerated or simply not fully explained. Ed Reed is a ball-hawk and so by putting him in the zone, you are taking full advantage of his skills. He's arguably the best safety in the league at reading offenses so by putting in man coverage, you wouldn't be utilizing him to the best of his abilities. The fact is, he can play man coverage b/c I've seen him do it and do it well but he's at his best in the zone. I'll admit, Reed doesn't make fundamental wrap-up tackles like Dawkins or other safety but he does make the majority of his tackles and he brings the hammer. He also gambles and sadly whenever he gambles, it's usually six for the other team but his gambling is also a plus for him. Many picks, he has snagged were on instinct alone and so although he does take risks, the pay-off is almost always a turnover.

[Reed_4_President]

I was just on the espn nfl website and this dude named "KC Joyner" wrote an article about how Ed Reed is the most over paid and overrated safety in the NFL. I wasn't able to read it because im not an ESPNinsider. If any of you guys are insiders, please tell me what this dude was claiming in his article. Thanks!

Most overrated saftey?! wow these people are just flat out stupid.... Maybe they should watch some film on him and understand why he is the #1 paid saftey in the NFL and the best at his position before wasting their time writing such dumb articles. Dude needs to be fired for stupidity.

[MKdave]

He also gambles and sadly whenever he gambles, it's usually six for the other team but his gambling is also a plus for him.

I wouldn't say when he gambles its usually six for the other team, he got burned twice last year at the most, if you count the flea flicker (which I don't)

because a safety should try to get after the half-back, the corners should be the ones staying with their men. plus the steve smith one, which was more bad communication between ed and samari, than bad coverage.

[Tiz]

I wouldn't say when he gambles its usually six for the other team, he got burned twice last year at the most, if you count the flea flicker (which I don't)

because a safety should try to get after the half-back, the corners should be the ones staying with their men. plus the steve smith one, which was more bad communication between ed and samari, than bad coverage.

Last year was the only time in his career that his gambling didn't seem to pay off on a regular basis. Most negative articles about him are based on that.

[willis mcgahee run u over]

oh Ed Reed DEFINATELY hits alot harder than most safeties in the league right now, all you have to do is go and look at his game films and the punishing hits he gave on some people....incredible, simply incredible

he'd put hits on aware running receivers that are typically just put on an airborne receiver

[SoCaLRavensFan]

Props to Reed. He hasn't lost a step. He looks as good as ever and he still doesn't get the credit he deserves. Imagine all of the games the Ravens would have lost in the last few years if it wasn't for the countless big plays by Reed. The analysts are the ones who are overpaid. Most of those guys are no more experts on football than the average hardcore fan. If they were so brilliant and insightful they would winning millions a week betting on the games.

[tweety]

Ed Reed hits hard enough to make recievers scared to go down the middle. Ed Reed is the most consistent safety of my time. No doubt the most valuable player on our team now, and close to ever. The only possible more valuable C-mac, Ray, and JO.

[Raven07]

there honestly isnt another player out there right now in this league that is even close or identical to Ed Reed..the Guy is smart, has the speed and skill AND knows exactly what he's doing and when to hit someone HARD! and lemme tell ya, he's put some HARD hits on some tough offensive players (Colts included hehe..revenge Ed Reed Style)....

Sure Troy Polamalu of the Steelers can TRY to be like Ed, but he's no where near the calibur of player Ed is at...not even close

[ragnorok99]

Joyner's articles ONLY look at numbers, and he believes he is somehow able to take objective numbers and make a subjective decision, like who is overrated.

Ed Reed is the best safety in the league--no other safety scares QBs like him or has the ability to singehandedly change a game like he does. Joyner just harps on numbers, taking the one "off" season Reed had and using it to call him overrated while ignoring every intangible effect Reed has.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that Joyner doesn't look at picks at all, at least for his "overrated safeties" thing.

[dsizzle007]

I hate to put it this way, but ive just noticed the same things from the NFL in the past 2 years. Frankly i dont know how to put this other then saying this: the NFL, officials, ESPN, NFL.com, alot of places(not always, but alot) just simply hates on the ravens. Ive watched SOOOOOO much drama, and negativity, and bad things about our offense or defense, and very rarely, anything about what we're doing right. This has been going on for over 2 years. From constant times of us having an AMAZING game, with plenty of highlights... to showing like 10-15 second clip on ESPN about what the other team did wrong. And countless times of like 90% of every XM radio annaylist trashing our team and not giving them credit where credit is due. And many many times, especially last year with power rankings... we BEAT SD last year, we BEAT the Saints IN NO. , but yet.... we were ranked like 8th in rankings , behind teams like... SD, like NO, like PIT....... That type of stuff just puzzled me. One last thing is that when the city of Baltimore wanted to rebuild a stadium in Baltimore, to bring the ravens here in 2000, the NFL told them maybe your city would be better suited for a "Football Mueseum". Basically, i rarely see anything good about the ravens, unless of course i come to baltimoreravens.com . Its always something, or someone calling us out. Like we areant worthy of credit... Come on now, we've proven that over and over again.

About the Reed topic... why is the media, and everyone else making it SOOOOOOOOOOOOO difficult for a player like Reed, to make the amount of money that Laundry is making in washington... his FIRST year. Reed is a seasoned Vet. arguably one of the smartest safeties in league as we speak, one of the top hitters, and frankly one of the biggest "play makers" in the league. Wether it be defensively, or just communication ( and getting someone else a INT, or a batted ball ), or special teams, blocking a punt, and field goal, returning a punt... Hes talented as hell, and is smart as a tac, spends hours and hours and hours on game film. He deserves his credit, hes well due for it!!

[Raven07]

i heard from various places (not sure which) but the Ravens are one of the "most hated Teams in the NFL"......not sure why...maybe because we won our first SuperBowl in 4 years of existence, or maybe its the fact that the Franchises VERY first draft selections (round 1-Jonathan Ogden, Round 2-Ray Lewis) are BOTH future Hall of Famers..... or its the Way our Defense plays and dominates other teams....what ever the reason.....but thats what i heard

[dsizzle007]

Its just the facts lol

[JonM229]

I just read a piece on ESPN.com about players that teams have to scheme around. They listed Ed Reed as number 2 under Split Decisions, the second teir of players, and quoted an anonymous coach saying, "Quarterbacks must be very aware, but he doesn't get schemed as much. You put a No. 20 jersey on your scout-team guy in practice and you need to know where he is at all times."

I think it's unfortunate for the teams that don't plan for him in their schemes.

[thewarden86]

I was just on the espn nfl website and this dude named "KC Joyner" wrote an article about how Ed Reed is the most over paid and overrated safety in the NFL. I wasn't able to read it because im not an ESPNinsider. If any of you guys are insiders, please tell me what this dude was claiming in his article. Thanks!

Are you sure he wasn't quoting Sal Paoantonio's (sp?) new book? I think it's entitled the top ten over and underrated at each position. Trust me, he'll never travel to any major city in this country safely again. He ripped everyone.

[Raven07]

i personally think that if he did that.....then he'd be completey ripped apart my Ravens fans...if it is true

[thewarden86]

i personally think that if he did that.....then he'd be completey ripped apart my Ravens fans...if it is true

You'd have to get in line. He ripped Farvre too. Mike (Greenberg) and Mike (Golic) in the Morning (not sure if you guys get them) kinda gave his some slack about it. He called in yesterday with the BS about who was underrated, then he called in this morning complaining about the tongue lashings he'd been getting.

[Slick]

Reed isn't overrated, the NFL is just full of Raven-haters who don't like to admit how good we are

[Raven07]

looks like it lol we have alot of people that seem to do that....not sure why though haha

[thewarden86]

Reed isn't overrated, the NFL is just full of Raven-haters who don't like to admit how good we are

They/he didn't single out the Ravens. He's just trying to sell a book. I disagreed with nearly all of his overrated players and therefore do not see the need to purchase said book.

[Raven07]

lol kinda hard to sell a book when everyone dis-agrees with almost everything in it lol!

[JonM229]

Isn't that the same way Bill O'Reily sells his books?

[Raven07]

haha the world wonders.....what kind of lengths people go to in order to make a dollar haha