Alternative WR Options

[Purple Punishment]

I bet Moss could burn Mike Wallace in a race. Randy is in excellent football shape. I mean, he plastered Revis as a Patriot last season so please dont say hes not able to do this and that.

[mhead66]

[quote name='jimmysmith3' timestamp='1312590383' post='737618']
Any suggestions? I already put Lee Evans out there but that didn't seem to be too popular.
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The Ravens didn't sign Floyd for [b]$3 million [/b]because that was too much money.

Lee Evans only had 37 receptions last year, 44 in 2009. He's making [b]$4.775 million [/b]this year.

Mase has caught more than 60 receptions for 11 straight years.

Other than the fact that he's 37, why would we want Evans over Mason?

Oh, and - unlike Floyd, Evans is 5'10", the same as Mason.

And... Evans is [b]NOT[/b] a free agent - we'd have to trade - give up draft picks - for him.

Forget Evans, IMO.

[scrock]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1312599297' post='737821']
In all fairness, he smoked Revis last year!
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Yeah but no one seems to remember Revis went down with a hammy during/after that game, he held out of camp and was rusty at the beginning of last year...

IF Revis was healthy Randy wouldnt get by him...

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1312599056' post='737819']
I haven't read through this entire thread but I'll go ahead and say ideally we sign Mason back and the young guys step up. We have speed now so its not going to be like last year when no one could get separation. At the same time if Mason doesn't come back there are still ways to acquire a veteran WR, like make a trade as we did for Josh Wilson last year for a fifth round pick.

Obviously we will pick up another WR, I think Harbaugh made that clear today, even though he likes what he's seen from the young guys.

Doss is impressing as is Torrey, and once David Reed is off PUP with his wrist injury I think he's going to be a playmaker, [b]he just seems like a football player to me[/b]. Last year in the run game he showed once he gets the ball he can make things happen.
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I think that is because he is a football player lol

[1/28/01]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1312599756' post='737827']
Yeah but no one seems to remember Revis went down with a hammy during/after that game, he held out of camp and was rusty at the beginning of last year...
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He grabbed the hamstring after he got smoked. Point is, Moss can still ball!

[scrock]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1312599757' post='737828']
I think that is because he is a football player lol
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I mean like how the coaches say a guy is a real football player, like he's solid...u know what i mean

[scrock]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1312599828' post='737831']
He grabbed the hamstring after he got smoked. Point is, Moss can still ball!
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I doubt it, Revis held out and got hurt and Randy got by him...Revis took him out of other games they played

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1312599756' post='737827']
Yeah but no one seems to remember Revis went down with a hammy during/after that game, he held out of camp and was rusty at the beginning of last year...

IF Revis was healthy Randy wouldnt get by him...
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Oh but I think he did when the Jets played the Vikings...

[scrock]

If they can sign Randy out of retirement for the veteran minimum and he proves me wrong I will apologize to everyone and sent Randy of box of chocolates with nice card

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1312599828' post='737831']
He grabbed the hamstring after he got smoked. Point is, Moss can still ball!
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Yeah he pulled a Michael Johnson when Donovan Bailey smoked him

[scrock]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1312599915' post='737835']
Oh but I think he did when the Jets played the Vikings...
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maybe your right and i got the games confused, see so many teams kicked Randy to the curb I cant even keep it straight

Revis has shut Randy down, he shut Andre Johnson down, all the best WR in the league at some point..and if Randy got the better of Revis once good for him..but its not going to be the norm, Revis is a young stud and Randy ...is retired for a reason

no one wanted him

[Kwothdaraven]

don't blame revis' hamstring. Moss burnt him, and then his hamstring went out. Its not like he pulled it halfway through the play

[-Truth-]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1312599716' post='737826']
The Ravens didn't sign Floyd for [b]$3 million [/b]because that was too much money.

Lee Evans only had 37 receptions last year, 44 in 2009. He's making [b]$4.775 million [/b]this year.

Mase has caught more than 60 receptions for 11 straight years.

Other than the fact that he's 37, why would we want Evans over Mason?
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As highly unlikely as this is of ever coming to fruition, the salary wouldn't be a problem. Rotoworld.com states that he's set to make that amount through 2012, not in 2011 alone, meaning he'll average a modest $2.3 million per season. And to his credit, he's an obvious speedster, while Mason definitely isn't. I also don't think that it's fair to compare their numbers, as Mason was targeted an average of 28 times more in '09 and '10. Frankly, with the Bills atrocious OL, I feel that their WRs could perform better in a offense that allows more than 3 seconds per route. Though once again, I reiterate that this acquisition will probably never occur.

[Jamal]

I was actually hoping for Evans a long time ago. He was in a lot of my mock off-seasons.

Like its been said, its not very likely, but I would love to see it.

[scrock]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1312601282' post='737855']
I was actually hoping for Evans a long time ago. He was in a lot of my mock off-seasons.

Like its been said, its not very likely, but I would love to see it.
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Lee Evans?

He had a few good years but his play dropped off..that could be due to the QB situation in Buffalo though

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1312599915' post='737835']
Oh but I think he did when the Jets played the Vikings...
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Actually, he was covered almost exclusively by Cromartie throughout the entire night. Although he did a solid job in coverage, Moss converted a 3rd down via a 16 yard reception, and scored a 37 yard TD on the same drive with Cromartie on him. Since he amassed 81 yards, that leaves 2 receptions and 28 yards that are unaccounted for. Even with that in mind, definitely wouldn't say Randy got by Revis in that game.

[omar586]

Evans from buffalo , if the bills can give him up for 3rd round pick or maybe a 2nd round pick, i think OZ needs to pull the trigger, he's the speed we need in our funky and disappointing offense.

[jimmysmith3]

[quote name='mhead66' timestamp='1312599716' post='737826']
The Ravens didn't sign Floyd for [b]$3 million [/b]because that was too much money.

Lee Evans only had 37 receptions last year, 44 in 2009. He's making [b]$4.775 million [/b]this year.

Mase has caught more than 60 receptions for 11 straight years.

Other than the fact that he's 37, why would we want Evans over Mason?

Oh, and - unlike Floyd, Evans is 5'10", the same as Mason.

And... Evans is [b]NOT[/b] a free agent - we'd have to trade - give up draft picks - for him.

Forget Evans, IMO.
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He's a legitimate and proven deep threat that we have been lacking for years. He's veteran but he is still young enough to be in his prime (29 or 30 I believe). Clearly you have never seen him play or have you when he played great against us last year...But since I watch him 16 games a year I know how good he is and his poor numbers are a direct result of the fact that the Bills have been deploying Arena League QB's since his 1000 yard season. Countless times I see him blow by CB and create great seperation only to see the QB over throw him by 15 yards. He could be a great player if he played with a great QB with a great arm like Flacco.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1312602221' post='737861']
Evans from buffalo , if the bills can give him up for 3rd round pick or maybe a 2nd round pick, i think OZ needs to pull the trigger, he's the speed we need in our funky and disappointing offense.
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He definitely wouldn't cost a 2nd or a 3rd.

[c21evans]

I'm exited to see what Torey Smith can do or Doss, but if we don't get mason back i like to get Steve Smith from the Giants last time i checked he wasn't signed yet

[sflegend89]

Lee Evans is worth a 5th or 6th rounder. I'd feel like we got robbed if we gave up even a 4th round pick for him. I think a 5th round pick straight up for him would be fair but I'm not a big fan of going after Evans anyway. If we do trade for a wr (which I feel we definitely NEED to do)then it should be someone who's worth keeping around beyond this season. I get that we build through the draft, but when we have a history of not being able to draft a [u]single[/u] serviceable wr.. then the only place to go is FA/trade. Why should I have faith in the wr's we drafted?

No knock on Torrey and Doss but if our track record shows we've never drafted any wr that can even be considered "good", why should I trust 2 rookie's to step into such a large role on offense. Wide Receiver is one of the hardest transitions for college athletes in the NFL. Neither of these guys can be our #2 right off the bat, our ONLY option is FA/trade. I'm not saying break the bank on an all out SB run. But if that is in fact the goal, we need to make more moves than we have.

I'm comfortable for the most part in every position except WR and OL. If money is the problem then why would we sign two players that are a luxury, when we actually have positions that NEED improvement. I was completely fine with our safties, we didn't NEED Pollard. I like the guy, but the money could've been spent elsewhere. Same goes for Leach, I like the guy.. but Lawrence Vickers was cheaper and arguably just as good. We don't sign Pollard, we save money signing Vickers, we actually take care of Ngata's deal on time, boom theres some money for you right there. Now we can distribute the money on a WR and OL respectively. I'm not saying that was the right way to do things, but it's apparent the money we had wasn't spent in the best way possible.

[Yatagarasu]

Our WR is going to be young and inexperienced:

1) Anquan Boldin: Pro-Bowl Veteran
2) Torrey Smith: Rookie
3) Tandon Doss: Rookie
4) James Hardy: 2nd round bust due to injuries
5) David Reed: Proven Special Teams player, need reps at WR
6) Marcus Smith: Unproven, but a special teams player
7) Justin Harper: Practice Squad Player
8) LaQuan Williams: Undrafted Rookie

I hope one of our rookies can pull out an Anquan Boldin rookie year (101 rep, 1377 yds, 8 TD). I'll also be satisfied with a Mike William's rookie year too (65 rep, 964 yds, 11 TD). For the Unproven veterans, I hope for a breakout year like Wes Welker or Miles Austin.

[Token]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1312606217' post='737894']
Our WR is going to be young and inexperienced:

1) Anquan Boldin: Pro-Bowl Veteran
2) Torrey Smith: Rookie
3) Tandon Doss: Rookie
4) James Hardy: 2nd round bust due to injuries
5) Marcus Smith: Unproven, but a special teams player
6) Justin Harper: Practice Squad Player
7) LaQuan Williams: Undrafted Rookie

I hope one of our rookies can pull out an Anquan Boldin rookie year (101 rep, 1377 yds, 8 TD). I'll also be satisfied with a Mike William's rookie year too (65 rep, 964 yds, 11 TD). For the Unproven veterans, I hope for a breakout year like Wes Welker or Miles Austin.
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You forgot about David Reed

[Yatagarasu]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1312606260' post='737895']
You forgot about David Reed
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You're quick on the trigger, I knew I forgot something on that list.

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='PurpleCorsair' timestamp='1312591234' post='737643']
Why would we get Cotchery when the Jets cut him to make room (allegedly) for Derrick?
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First of all that is inaccurate. They did not cut him but it was he that wanted to be cut... his feathers were ruffled because he felt disrespected by the Jets, so he had wanted out sas early as Feb. Since he was a true team player, the Jets obliged and let him find newer pastures...

[ed.s52]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1312605894' post='737892']
Lee Evans is worth a 5th or 6th rounder. I'd feel like we got robbed if we gave up even a 4th round pick for him. I think a 5th round pick straight up for him would be fair but I'm not a big fan of going after Evans anyway. If we do trade for a wr (which I feel we definitely NEED to do)then it should be someone who's worth keeping around beyond this season. I get that we build through the draft, but when we have a history of not being able to draft a [u]single[/u] serviceable wr.. then the only place to go is FA/trade. Why should I have faith in the wr's we drafted?

No knock on Torrey and Doss but if our track record shows we've never drafted any wr that can even be considered "good", why should I trust 2 rookie's to step into such a large role on offense. Wide Receiver is one of the hardest transitions for college athletes in the NFL. Neither of these guys can be our #2 right off the bat, our ONLY option is FA/trade. I'm not saying break the bank on an all out SB run. But if that is in fact the goal, we need to make more moves than we have.

I'm comfortable for the most part in every position except WR and OL. If money is the problem then why would we sign two players that are a luxury, when we actually have positions that NEED improvement. I was completely fine with our safties, we didn't NEED Pollard. I like the guy, but the money could've been spent elsewhere. Same goes for Leach, I like the guy.. but Lawrence Vickers was cheaper and arguably just as good. We don't sign Pollard, we save money signing Vickers, we actually take care of Ngata's deal on time, boom theres some money for you right there. Now we can distribute the money on a WR and OL respectively. I'm not saying that was the right way to do things, but it's apparent the money we had wasn't spent in the best way possible.
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Guys will eventually be cut from their teams, good quality players (when roster cuts happen), and we will likely fill some needs then.

Plus, how can you say the dude isnt worth a fourth? If we get him, he will stay past one season. The dude is a straight boss, he just comes from literally THE worst situation in the NFL. No O-Line, no QB, no coaching. Nothing.

Lee will be the deep threat we need for cheap, not that there is a huge chance it will happen but he would be a great upgrade for our WR corps.

[Purple Punishment]

I dont think we sign anyone. I think they let the rooks ball out this season and hope for something great

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1312606217' post='737894']
Our WR is going to be young and inexperienced:

1) Anquan Boldin: Pro-Bowl Veteran
2) Torrey Smith: Rookie
3) Tandon Doss: Rookie
4) James Hardy: 2nd round bust due to injuries
5) David Reed: Proven Special Teams player, need reps at WR
6) Marcus Smith: Unproven, but a special teams player
7) Justin Harper: Practice Squad Player
8) LaQuan Williams: Undrafted Rookie

I hope one of our rookies can pull out an Anquan Boldin rookie year (101 rep, 1377 yds, 8 TD). I'll also be satisfied with a Mike William's rookie year too (65 rep, 964 yds, 11 TD). For the Unproven veterans, I hope for a breakout year like Wes Welker or Miles Austin.
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Satisfied? If any of our rookie WRs can bring in a 964 yard, 11 TD season, I'd be ecstatic. Don't really see the Boldin-esk one happening. There have only been 3 rookie WRs to break the 1,000 yard mark since 2000. It's quite a rarity.

[scrock]

[quote name='omar586' timestamp='1312602221' post='737861']
Evans from buffalo , if the bills can give him up for 3rd round pick or maybe a 2nd round pick, i think OZ needs to pull the trigger, he's the speed we need in our funky and disappointing offense.
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Lee Evans is definitely not worth a 2nd rounder....maybe a 4th or 5th

[scrock]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1312606621' post='737899']
First of all that is inaccurate. They did not cut him but it was he that wanted to be cut... his feathers were ruffled because he felt disrespected by the Jets, so he had wanted out sas early as Feb. Since he was a true team player, the Jets obliged and let him find newer pastures...
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He also failed his physical...so I'm sure the Jets were happy to oblige him