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So looking at the list, all the young and healthy ones are gone.

However, there may be some hidden gems still out there.

Derrick Mason: he knows the system and I heard he's in tremendous shape. Speed and size is not his strength, but route running and experience will still give him the edge over some WRs.

Derek Hagan, 26, 6-2, 215lbs, 4.45s 40yd : Proven bust for the Miami Dolphins because he did not perform when he was given the chance. Still young, maybe worth kicking the tires, but I would rather give the reps to our unproven rookies, than a proven veteran bust.

Antwaan Randle El, 32: Over-the-hill and is probably done as his main asset as a speedster is now gone.

Bryant Johnson: 30, 6-3, 216lbs: Arizona used their 1st round pick on his guy in 2003, but found out their 2nd round pick(Anquan Boldin) was their main receiver. Proven bust as he has never achieved a 1000 yards in his 8-year career.

Ruvell Martin: 28, 6-4, 220lbs: Small-time player, but has shown some flash by leading in receiving in NFL Europa. However, he was not part of any big plans for the NFL teams he played. As a plus, he does have some experience as a QB.
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James Hardy and a 5th for Kenny Britt? He amassed nearly 800 yards in 12 games, as well as impressive 9 TDs during the same span. If anything, outside of his off-the-field issues, he's proven that he was worth the late 1st round selection the Titans spent on him. Also, how does Prescott Burgess downgrade the 5th to a 6th? Especially when they have Will Witherspoon, Barrett Ruud and Akeem Ayers. I don't see him leaving Tennessee for anything less than a 2nd.
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Why hasn't anyone talked about trading for upcoming wide receivers that are under cheap contracts yet? The Jets got away with doing that twice so why we can't do that once is beyond me. I'm sure there's someone out there for us.
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Santonio Holmes got traded to a Rival team for just a 5th round pick. When a guy doesn't work with a teams bank roll they move him for the market price. Holmes is a proven young wr who had already had a game winning sb catch and had over 1000 yards receiving.

Let me repeat that he got traded for a 5th round pick. That's the value of a draft pick in the NFL today, a few years ago you would be looking at a much higher pick.. but it all depends on the state of the market. A player and a 5th round pick is good value for a guy that has been arrested recently, has been injured off and on for a year, has missed everyday of camp so far, and wants a new contract (he's only set to make $575,000 this year under his current contract). A deal like this would be easier after re-signing Ngata to free up some money.

Given his terms with the team, the Titans might not be looking to restructure his contract this year, if thats not good enough for Britt than maybe he'll hit the trading block. All depends on how much the Titans think Britt is worth given all his injury/off field issues. They might wanna sell high because if he has a down year he won't retain his value if he still wants a new contract and they wanna move him.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312588896' post='737569']
Would anyone take Cotchery over Mase?
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I feel like Cotchery could be a productive WR, but for someone with a lack of speed, he had an alarming number of drops in 2010. In fact, his 10 drops ranked him as one of the worst in the league in this category.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312588896' post='737569']
Would anyone take Cotchery over Mase?
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i would do none of you remember b4 braylon edwards came along cotchery was tearing it up for the jets he was my fantasy reciever that year. he is a possesion reciever problem is he is like boldin we need a proven guy to stretch the field. i don't think he fits to well but right now he is younger and prolly faster than mason. in masons prime though it wouldnt even be a conversation. i think mason will be back to get his ring this year before he retires. And by the way the jets will suck this year shaun ellis woody and jenkins and braylon big losses.
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[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1312589387' post='737583']
[b]Santonio Holmes got traded to a Rival team for just a 5th round pick. [/b]When a guy doesn't work with a teams bank roll they move him for the market price. Holmes is a proven young wr who had already had a game winning sb catch and had over 1000 yards receiving.

Let me repeat that he got traded for a 5th round pick. That's the value of a draft pick in the NFL today, a few years ago you would be looking at a much higher pick.. but it all depends on the state of the market. A player and a 5th round pick is good value for a guy that has been arrested recently, has been injured off and on for a year, has missed everyday of camp so far, and wants a new contract (he's only set to make $575,000 this year under his current contract). A deal like this would be easier after re-signing Ngata to free up some money.
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The Jets are not the Steelers' rival, and Holmes would've been immediately cut had he not been traded. The Jets traded a 5th likely because it ensured that he'd be in New York, as a bidding war would've ensued had he hit the open market. Until there are more significant talks about Britt being on the trade block, a 5th round pick likely will not suffice. Pittsburgh also had another speedy WR waiting in the wings, who had a very solid rookie season at the time of Holmes' release. Don't exactly think that the Titans have the same luxury.
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[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1312589387' post='737583']
Santonio Holmes got traded to a Rival team for just a 5th round pick. When a guy doesn't work with a teams bank roll they move him for the market price. Holmes is a proven young wr who had already had a game winning sb catch and had over 1000 yards receiving.

Let me repeat that he got traded for a 5th round pick. That's the value of a draft pick in the NFL today, a few years ago you would be looking at a much higher pick.. but it all depends on the state of the market. A player and a 5th round pick is good value for a guy that has been arrested recently, has been injured off and on for a year, has missed everyday of camp so far, and wants a new contract (he's only set to make $575,000 this year under his current contract). A deal like this would be easier after re-signing Ngata to free up some money.

Given his terms with the team, the Titans might not be looking to restructure his contract this year, if thats not good enough for Britt than maybe he'll hit the trading block. All depends on how much the Titans think Britt is worth given all his injury/off field issues. They might wanna sell high because if he has a down year he won't retain his value if he still wants a new contract and they wanna move him.
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Ok well take this into consideration. Name one other receiver on the Titans roster besides Kenny Britt...

Their second best receiver on their team was Nate Washington. Im pretty sure they wouldnt get rid of Kenny Britt, even with all the trouble they have been having with him, for a 5th or 6th rounder and either Burgess (ST player at max) or Hardy (#4-#5 receiver for us)
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[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1312589801' post='737600']
The Jets are not the Steelers' rival, and Holmes would've been immediately cut had he not been traded. The Jets traded a 5th likely because it ensured that he'd be in New York, as a bidding war would've ensued had he hit the open market. Until there are more significant talks about Britt being on the trade block, a 5th round pick likely will not suffice. Pittsburgh also had another speedy WR waiting in the wings, who had a very solid rookie season at the time of Holmes' release. Don't exactly think that the Titans have the same luxury.
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Exactly what i was gonna say. Holmes, at the time of the trade, had legal issues and was on the way out. The steelers got what they thought was best for them, rather then cut him and get nothing. Its not like they threw him out and asked for a 5th rounder.
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The WR I would keep an eye on is Victor Cruz.

The Giants have a logjam of WRs, but also a lot of potentially good WRs.

Victor Cruz had a crazy good preseason last year with 15 receptions, 297 yards, and 4 tds.

The Giants used him for 3 games (probably special teams) before putting him in the IR for a hamstring issue. He did not show much in the regular season as the Giants were loaded in the WR category with Smith, Nicks, Manningham, Barnes, and Hixon.

I think the Ravens are keeping an eye on him to see if he makes the final 53 roster.
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[quote name='JamesRules' timestamp='1312589373' post='737582']
Why hasn't anyone talked about trading for upcoming wide receivers that are under cheap contracts yet? The Jets got away with doing that twice so why we can't do that once is beyond me. I'm sure there's someone out there for us.
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Any suggestions? I already put Lee Evans out there but that didn't seem to be too popular.
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Aaron Wilson
For those asking, I'm not big on speculating, but I think Baltimore has a very good shot at bringing back Derrick Mason.
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[quote name='jimmysmith3' timestamp='1312590383' post='737618']
Any suggestions? I already put Lee Evans out there but that didn't seem to be too popular.
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Evans did just turn 30. However, if we could get him for dirt cheap, I wouldn't mind. He's been targeted less and less since his 1,000 yard campaign, and could be a viable #2. Would also certainly stretch the field. The only problem I have with him is that we have a WR in Torrey Smith who offers the same skill-set. Although I'm still a bit of a skeptic regarding Smith, as I consider him a raw talent. To put it simply I wouldn't mind if we acquired him, I wouldn't mind if we didn't. Either way, I don't really see it happening.
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[quote]Based on what I'm hearing, Ravens should either get Mason or Cotchery[/quote]
Why would we get Cotchery when the Jets cut him to make room (allegedly) for Derrick?
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1312590982' post='737638']
Jamison Hensley
Based on what I'm hearing, Ravens should either get Mason or Cotchery
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Theses dudes are like weathermen.
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I know I'm going to be killed for saying this, but mike williams from the seahawks anyone? Looks like after last year he's finally seen the light, and he reported in shape at their trainingcamp.
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[quote name='uhhhh' timestamp='1312591362' post='737647']
I know I'm going to be killed for saying this, but mike williams from the seahawks anyone? Looks like after last year he's finally seen the light, and he reported in shape at their trainingcamp.
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Williams was signed to a 4 year deal this year.
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[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1312591524' post='737653']
Williams was signed to a 4 year deal this year.
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I know, but trading for him. He should come cheap, maybe 4th rounder and a backup player.
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1312590982' post='737638']
Jamison Hensley
Based on what I'm hearing, Ravens should either get Mason or Cotchery
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Talk about exciting...
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1312590982' post='737638']
Jamison Hensley
Based on what I'm hearing, Ravens should either get [b]Mason[/b] or Cotchery
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[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/25jfdcj.jpg[/IMG]
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1312591234' post='737644']
Theses dudes are like weathermen.
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hahahahha thats what im sayin!
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[quote name='uhhhh' timestamp='1312591609' post='737657']
I know, but trading for him. He should come cheap, maybe 4th rounder and a backup player.
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I doubt it. I believe their main reason for having two 6'4+ WR on the outside is to make Tarvaris' job easier. He was also productive for Seattle, considering their 2nd best WR had a little over half of William's receptions and receiving yards. Considering he was under Pete Carroll in USC before he was a Top 10 selection, I don't see Carroll discounting what he's capable of.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312588896' post='737569']<br />Would anyone take Cotchery over Mase?<br />[/quote]

A possesion reciever with stone hands last year? Pass. Gimme some more of that same ol' from Mase.
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