2011 = Year Of The Flacco

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1312494473' post='735601']
I love Flacco, but that is a really bold prediction my dude.

Anyway, even a nonhomer should see that we should be Super Bowl favorites for the AFC except MAYBE the Pats (considering no other major contender got better except them). Why? We have gotten much better at our weak points (OL, WR, CB, Pass rush assuming Kindle is at least decent and JJ isnt lying about how good he feels), we went 12-4 last year (which coulda been 13-3 if we had better refs in the Falcon game), and we have a ridiculously easy schedule.
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To be honest,I placed it in a bold prediction thread, but it's not that bold to me.

Here's my reasoning, lets see if I can get you to think like I do....

Ok first I looked at Flacco's season in 2010....We all know. He passed for 3622yds, 25TD 10INT. Over the full 16 games, Flacco averaged about 30 passes per game and average 226.4 yards per game.

Now we all expect Flacco to improve, but here's why my improvement for him seems so bold to others but not to me. Over the last 3 games of the season, the Ravens cut Flacco's pass attempts from about 33 down to 19 in attempt to get the running game going.

Up until that point Flacco was averaging 33.2 attempted passes per game. Also over those first 13 weeks before his attempts were cut, Flacco was averaging 247.9 yards per game.

So if those numbers over the first 13 weeks hadn't been cut, Flacco would have passed for 3966=(247.9x16) over a full 16 games. The difference between 4,300 and 3,966 is 334 yards. So that means Flacco would have to average only 20 yards more a game this season then last(first 13 games) to reach the 4,300+ yard mark. Make sense?

As for the completion percentage. Taking away what probably is Flacco's worse game(week 2) Flacco completed 64.0% of his passes. Flacco attempted 450 passes and completed 289 during those 15 games. If Flacco completed just 1 extra pass every other game(8 extra completions) it would have put him at 66%. (289+8=297/450=66%). So him improving to that 65-66% range isn't that hard to believe for me.

As for the TD-INT ratio. Again take away the first 2 games. Over that 14 game span, Flacco had 24TDs to 5INTs, bested only by Brady. Projecting those number over a full 16 game season look like this.....Flacco would have thrown 27-28 TDs and 5 INTs. So Flacco would have to improve on his TD mark by only 5 to reach the 33 mark. I think he could do that, and he'd actually have to throw more INTs to reach the 8 mark this year.

So that is where I came up with the 4,300yds, 33TDs 8INTs, 66% and 99 passer rating. Hopefully that all made sense to you.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312498765' post='735700']
To be honest,I placed it in a bold prediction thread, but it's not that bold to me.

He's my reasoning, lets see if I can get you to think like I do....

Ok first I looked at Flacco's season in 2010....We all know. He passed for 3622yds, 25TD 10INT. Over the full 16 games, Flacco averaged about 30 passes per game and average 226.4 yards per game.

Now we all expect Flacco to improve, but he's why my improvement for him seems so bold to others but not to me. Over the last 3 games of the season, the Ravens cut Flacco's pass attempts from about 33 down to 19 in attempt to get the running game going.

Up until that point Flacco was averaging 33.2 attempted passes per game. Also over those first 13 weeks before his attempts were cut, Flacco was averaging 247.9 yards per game.

So if those numbers over the first 13 weeks hadn't been cut, Flacco would have passed for 3966=(247.9x16) over a full 16 games. The difference between 4,300 and 3,966 is 334 yards. So that means Flacco would have to average only 20 yards more a game this season then last(first 13 games) to reach the 4,300+ yard mark. Make sense?

As for the completion percentage. Taking away what probably is Flacco's worse game(week 2) Flacco completed 64.0% of his passes. Flacco attempted 450 passes and completed 289 during those 15 games. If Flacco completed just 1 extra pass every other game(8 extra completions) it would have put him at 66%. (289+8=297/450=66%). So him improving to that 65-66% range isn't that hard to believe for me.

As for the TD-INT ratio. Again take away the first 2 games. Over that 14 game span, Flacco had 24TDs to 5INTs, bested only by Brady. Projecting those number over a full 16 game season look like this.....Flacco would have thrown 27-28 TDs and 5 INTs. So Flacco would have to improve on his TD mark by only 5 to reach the 33 mark. I think he could do that, and he'd actually have to throw more INTs to reach the 8 mark this year.

So that is where I came up with the 4,300yds, 33TDs 8INTs, 66% and 99 passer rating. Hopefully that all made sense to you.
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Don't have to justify your opinion! And I certainly would not be surprised if Flacco hit those numbers. Personally I'm banking on 4000 yards and 28 TD from him this year in my FF league.

[FlaccoFlicker]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1312499156' post='735715']
Don't have to justify your opinion! And I certainly would not be surprised if Flacco hit those numbers. Personally I'm banking on [b]4000 yards and 28 TD [/b]from him this year in my FF league.
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would love to see him hit 4000 yds this yr.But let's round up to 30 TD'S. and 2 Ben manned Steeler wins!

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312498765' post='735700']
To be honest,I placed it in a bold prediction thread, but it's not that bold to me.

He's my reasoning, lets see if I can get you to think like I do....

Ok first I looked at Flacco's season in 2010....We all know. He passed for 3622yds, 25TD 10INT. Over the full 16 games, Flacco averaged about 30 passes per game and average 226.4 yards per game.

Now we all expect Flacco to improve, but he's why my improvement for him seems so bold to others but not to me. Over the last 3 games of the season, the Ravens cut Flacco's pass attempts from about 33 down to 19 in attempt to get the running game going.

Up until that point Flacco was averaging 33.2 attempted passes per game. Also over those first 13 weeks before his attempts were cut, Flacco was averaging 247.9 yards per game.

So if those numbers over the first 13 weeks hadn't been cut, Flacco would have passed for 3966=(247.9x16) over a full 16 games. The difference between 4,300 and 3,966 is 334 yards. So that means Flacco would have to average only 20 yards more a game this season then last(first 13 games) to reach the 4,300+ yard mark. Make sense?

As for the completion percentage. Taking away what probably is Flacco's worse game(week 2) Flacco completed 64.0% of his passes. Flacco attempted 450 passes and completed 289 during those 15 games. If Flacco completed just 1 extra pass every other game(8 extra completions) it would have put him at 66%. (289+8=297/450=66%). So him improving to that 65-66% range isn't that hard to believe for me.

As for the TD-INT ratio. Again take away the first 2 games. Over that 14 game span, Flacco had 24TDs to 5INTs, bested only by Brady. Projecting those number over a full 16 game season look like this.....Flacco would have thrown 27-28 TDs and 5 INTs. So Flacco would have to improve on his TD mark by only 5 to reach the 33 mark. I think he could do that, and he'd actually have to throw more INTs to reach the 8 mark this year.

So that is where I came up with the 4,300yds, 33TDs 8INTs, 66% and 99 passer rating. Hopefully that all made sense to you.
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Also we play NFC West and AFC South this year. Not exactly stalwart secondaries.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1312416878' post='734052']
Yes, Flacco will make his mark once again and elevate his game even further.when Flacco puts up a Top 5 season this year, I'll refuse to accept any apologies from ESPN, NFL Network, Warren Sapp, Jamie Dukes or edreedfromtheu.
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There will be no more edreedfromtheu. He will have to change his screen name lol

I really think all the off-season smack talk lit a fire in Joe though. He is motivated to prove his critics wrong and I don't think that is a bad thing.

[hawkprey]

I thought last year Flacco had to prove he could put up big numbers and dominate in a playoff game, and he did both. Now what does he have to prove? That he can win the Super Bowl? Then next year they'll be saying "Flacco won't be elite until he can win the Super Bowl... twice."

[blaqreign]

Pretty good read my man. Thanks for posting

[ed.s52]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312498765' post='735700']
To be honest,I placed it in a bold prediction thread, but it's not that bold to me.

Here's my reasoning, lets see if I can get you to think like I do....

Ok first I looked at Flacco's season in 2010....We all know. He passed for 3622yds, 25TD 10INT. Over the full 16 games, Flacco averaged about 30 passes per game and average 226.4 yards per game.

Now we all expect Flacco to improve, but here's why my improvement for him seems so bold to others but not to me. Over the last 3 games of the season, the Ravens cut Flacco's pass attempts from about 33 down to 19 in attempt to get the running game going.

Up until that point Flacco was averaging 33.2 attempted passes per game. Also over those first 13 weeks before his attempts were cut, Flacco was averaging 247.9 yards per game.

So if those numbers over the first 13 weeks hadn't been cut, Flacco would have passed for 3966=(247.9x16) over a full 16 games. The difference between 4,300 and 3,966 is 334 yards. So that means Flacco would have to average only 20 yards more a game this season then last(first 13 games) to reach the 4,300+ yard mark. Make sense?

As for the completion percentage. Taking away what probably is Flacco's worse game(week 2) Flacco completed 64.0% of his passes. Flacco attempted 450 passes and completed 289 during those 15 games. If Flacco completed just 1 extra pass every other game(8 extra completions) it would have put him at 66%. (289+8=297/450=66%). So him improving to that 65-66% range isn't that hard to believe for me.

As for the TD-INT ratio. Again take away the first 2 games. Over that 14 game span, Flacco had 24TDs to 5INTs, bested only by Brady. Projecting those number over a full 16 game season look like this.....Flacco would have thrown 27-28 TDs and 5 INTs. So Flacco would have to improve on his TD mark by only 5 to reach the 33 mark. I think he could do that, and he'd actually have to throw more INTs to reach the 8 mark this year.

So that is where I came up with the 4,300yds, 33TDs 8INTs, 66% and 99 passer rating. Hopefully that all made sense to you.
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Yea, that actually made a lot of sense. The only arguement I can think of is this, with and improved OL and Leach, we may act similarly to those last three games though not as drastically and get some smashmouth football in. That might hinder his ability to get 4300, but 4000 should be very easily attained for him this year.

Still great post.

[DylanRobles]

I'm expecting big things from the passing game this year.. Flacco, Boldin, Smith... Then to confuse the d, we've got Rice, Leach.. Who wants it?

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312452150' post='734600']
I predicted that Flacco would throw for 4300+ yards 33TDs, 8INTs 66.2% 99 Passer Rating, earlier this offseason in Fly's Bold Prediction threat.

Even with the departure of Heap and Mason, I will not back off of those predictions. I love how Flacco has taken ownership of this offense. I really liked how he said, he'll mold the young WRs the way he wants to them to be. Gotta love that.

Flacco is even jawing with Ray and Suggs in 11 on 11 drills at practice. He's really becoming that team leader. People can say what they want in regrades to us still having some great/HOF players on this team, but when we win the Super Bowl it'll be because Flacco has led this team their.

If and when the Ravens add Malcolm Floyd, our offensive plan will be to push the ball down field even more. Flacco was rated among the top QBs in terms of getting the ball down field last year, and that was with Mason, Housh and Heap on the other end of those catches.

Now you look at what we have this year. Smith will be able to attack defenses deep, Dickson is much more of a field stretcher then Heap, and Floyd should continue to average about 17-18 yards per catch. Teams will no longer be able to just stack the back and sit on routes. Their safeties will have to play deeper and the Corner will have to play more off coverage. That frees things up for Q, Doss, Reed and Pitta.

Those 4 guys will abuse underneath coverage and LBs imo. That in-turn opens things up for Rice as a pass catcher out of the backfield.

Then with the defense so concerned about us attacking them down field with the pass, Leach, Rice and company will start to pound away at the defense. That opens up play action and the offense becomes even more dangerous.

With all the talk about Joe, and coming from Joe, look for Flacco to be a story each and every week. It'll either be see I told you so, or people will be looking at Dukes(and other) saying, what do you think now. Which will lead to Dukes hating even more and saying just wait to playoff time.
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Great post. I like the logic supporting the madness.

As much as I want to see Flacco blow up this year, I have one concern. Can Cameron step up his game and use the weapons at his disposal? Where does his game approach come into your equation?

I know that Harbaugh says he wants a more explosive offense. I think even Mr. Bisciotti pushed this topic in the off season. Maybe with Flacco being more of a on field general and running some audibles his true talents will emerge and your prediction will come true.

just mho but I don't know if Cameron knows how to let the dogs loose. idk

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1312516757' post='736074']
Yea, that actually made a lot of sense. The only arguement I can think of is this, with and improved OL and Leach, we may act similarly to those last three games though not as drastically and get some smashmouth football in. That might hinder his ability to get 4300, but 4000 should be very easily attained for him this year.

Still great post.
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Yea I though about that, but what I counted that with is the potential for much bigger plays this year. With Smith, Dickson and probably Floyd the Ravens will look to push the ball down field more then they did last year.

Also with those guys pressing the defense deeper, it'll loosen up the underneath coverage for Q, Doss, Reed, Pitta and Rice to catch and run.

So a lot of those shorter catches from last year, will turn into catch and run type.

Also the running game being explosive will be a welcomed site, because it open up huge plays off of play action.

So I actually look for Flacco and Rice to have career years. I think the offense will be huge this year.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Neal Could Block the SUN!!' timestamp='1312523566' post='736172']
Great post. I like the logic supporting the madness.

As much as I want to see Flacco blow up this year, I have one concern. Can Cameron step up his game and use the weapons at his disposal? Where does his game approach come into your equation?

I know that Harbaugh says he wants a more explosive offense. I think even Mr. Bisciotti pushed this topic in the off season. Maybe with Flacco being more of a on field general and running some audibles his true talents will emerge and your prediction will come true.

just mho but I don't know if Cameron knows how to let the dogs loose. idk
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I've never had a problem with Cam, or at least not to the extent as most around here. So I don't worry about the offense in his hands, but under Flacco's control.

So here my reason for thinking my prediction will come true. Cam actually wants to push the ball down field more, and that's the issue we had last year. None of our guys really fit the vertical type offense. Stallworth just wasn't used much, I'll put that one on Cam.

Despite not having the guys to fit the vertical offense, the Ravens still pushed the ball down the field alot.

Flacco averaged 7.4 yards per attempt. With was only bested by 6 teams(SD,PIT,GB,NE,HOU,PHI) all teams who had great success with the deep passing game.

Also for the first time in team history, we had 4 of our top 5 pass catches averaged 13+ yards per catch. Which indicates how well we did in the intermediate areas of the field.

Now once you add some big play ability, with Dickson, Smith and Floyd. Those area should become even more spaced out.

This year the offense will look to establish the run and get play action going. Flacco will be much better then he already is, Q will be more comfortable and the young guys should come along faster, with Floyd in the fold.

I know after last season it's hard to place your trust in Cam or the Offense. However we did have 2 pretty good years, with much less talent before last year. So just chalk it up to a bad season, full of injuries, mistakes, and coaches not being on the same page.

If I worry about anyone or any group, it's the oline. Their the heart that makes this offensive body work. Without them, we're nothing.

[Ravens Beast]

Wakka Flacco Flame!!!!!

[BMOREHAWAII]

Flacco has huge confidence and , good scrambling ability and alot of upside. But he doesnt have his security blanket any more in mase who bailed him out every single time. Its time for him to fly the coop If he doesn't peak this yeaR He will never get past that hump. He holds the ball too long, makes questionable decisions and can't read defenses or tell when blitzes are coming. Hopefully that 10 pounds he gained helps him and not slow him down. I love bmore and everything about the ravens but im not biased it's pretty obvious flacco needs to step it up ALOT to be mentioned elite.

[reediddy]

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Even when he will win the superbowl, [i]they will still love to hate him[/i]!(T.O. voice)
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