Chuck Pagano

[Flacco2Mason]

Is the mad scientist of our defense. He's like Dr. Frankenstein and our defense is the monster, lol. I love his intensity. Let's bring smash mouth football back. I'm pumped.

[PurpleReign92]

Zibby is more of a free safety not a Strong... I don't know why they cut Landry he would have given a couple more good years.. Complemented the Free Safety, I think most of all there needs to be strong chemistry and awareness while off covering offensive players on the field... I know that in Tennessee with Chris Hope and Mike Griffin these guys play well together and that gave them both a pro bowl spot each...

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312578023' post='737252']
I think the main difference between Pagano and Mattison is the approach to pressuring the QB.

Mattison believes in getting pressure with the defensive line, while Pagano will get pressure with any and everyone who is capable of rushing the QB.

Because of Mattison's approach over the last couple of seasons, some unfavorable moves have been made with the personnel on this defense. If you believe in getting pressure with your front 4, then you move all of ur best pass rushers to the inside and DL of your defense.

McClain was moved from oustide to ILB, Barnes was cut because he didn't really fit what Mattison wanted to do, and Kruger was moved to DE. The OLB in Mattison's defense isn't meant to get pressure, so keeping guys like McClain, Barnes, and Kruger on the outside was pointless. With those guys you want them rushing the QB at least 80% of the time. In Mattison's defense their responsibility would have been to stack the run and cover at the OLB position. So they were moved to better maximize their talents.

With Pagano, the OLB better be able to rush the passer when needed or he won't be on the field. Point Blank. I've watched the short clips of practice on BR.com and Kruger has been spending most of his time with the LBs, not DL. Actually I haven't seen him with the DL once. But it's only a small sample, but I'll definitely be looking out for him tomorrow.

I think the difference between Mattison and Pagano is really showing up even in practice. Prescott Burgess has been JJ's backup at OLB for the last 3 years. However he offers little to no pass rush, so instead of putting him in positions were he won't succeed, Pagano has moved him to ILB. Well at least I hope its a permanent move.

Kruger isn't a full time DE, like Art Jones and Redding, so moving him outside would allow him to fully utilize his talents.

Guys like Pollard, Nakamura, Webb, Zibby, and maybe even Cary Williams will see a lot of blitzes this year. Something that Mattison didn't do much of.

From what I've heard and seen so far, I'm expecting huge things from the defense this year.
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Pagano is going to run more of a Mike Nolan style defense is the feeling Im getting, with some touches of the Jim Johnson nickel blitz.

[PurpleReign92]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312578023' post='737252']
I think the main difference between Pagano and Mattison is the approach to pressuring the QB.

Mattison believes in getting pressure with the defensive line, while Pagano will get pressure with any and everyone who is capable of rushing the QB.

Because of Mattison's approach over the last couple of seasons, some unfavorable moves have been made with the personnel on this defense. If you believe in getting pressure with your front 4, then you move all of ur best pass rushers to the inside and DL of your defense.

McClain was moved from oustide to ILB, Barnes was cut because he didn't really fit what Mattison wanted to do, and Kruger was moved to DE. The OLB in Mattison's defense isn't meant to get pressure, so keeping guys like McClain, Barnes, and Kruger on the outside was pointless. With those guys you want them rushing the QB at least 80% of the time. In Mattison's defense their responsibility would have been to stack the run and cover at the OLB position. So they were moved to better maximize their talents.

With Pagano, the OLB better be able to rush the passer when needed or he won't be on the field. Point Blank. I've watched the short clips of practice on BR.com and Kruger has been spending most of his time with the LBs, not DL. Actually I haven't seen him with the DL once. But it's only a small sample, but I'll definitely be looking out for him tomorrow.

I think the difference between Mattison and Pagano is really showing up even in practice. Prescott Burgess has been JJ's backup at OLB for the last 3 years. However he offers little to no pass rush, so instead of putting him in positions were he won't succeed, Pagano has moved him to ILB. Well at least I hope its a permanent move.

Kruger isn't a full time DE, like Art Jones and Redding, so moving him outside would allow him to fully utilize his talents.

Guys like Pollard, Nakamura, Webb, Zibby, and maybe even Cary Williams will see a lot of blitzes this year. Something that Mattison didn't do much of.

From what I've heard and seen so far, I'm expecting huge things from the defense this year.
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Greg Mattison defense was like a story they told it on the field...Sometimes they would come out with some twist and turns and then the attention getter. Some plays from this defense were amazing and historical and will go down in storybook form in the NFL...

[Militant X 1]

bring the pain Pagano!

~Mili

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='PurpleReign92' timestamp='1312582205' post='737389']
Zibby is more of a free safety not a Strong... I don't know why they cut Landry he would have given a couple more good years.. Complemented the Free Safety, I think most of all there needs to be strong chemistry and awareness while off covering offensive players on the field... I know that in Tennessee with Chris Hope and Mike Griffin these guys play well together and that gave them both a pro bowl spot each...
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I disagree, I think Zibby is more of a strong, in the box type SS. I think he did well filling in for Ed Reed, but I think SS is his more natural position.

I really like Landry too, but everybody can't be kept. That's why Ozzie's drafting is so important. How many times have the Ravens lost what appears to be a big named FA but didn't lose a step?

I like the combo of Nakamura, Zibby and Pollard. I can't wait to see how they work together.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312578023' post='737252']
I think the main difference between Pagano and Mattison is the approach to pressuring the QB.

Mattison believes in getting pressure with the defensive line, while Pagano will get pressure with any and everyone who is capable of rushing the QB.

Because of Mattison's approach over the last couple of seasons, some unfavorable moves have been made with the personnel on this defense. If you believe in getting pressure with your front 4, then you move all of ur best pass rushers to the inside and DL of your defense.

McClain was moved from oustide to ILB, Barnes was cut because he didn't really fit what Mattison wanted to do, and Kruger was moved to DE. The OLB in Mattison's defense isn't meant to get pressure, so keeping guys like McClain, Barnes, and Kruger on the outside was pointless. With those guys you want them rushing the QB at least 80% of the time. In Mattison's defense their responsibility would have been to stack the run and cover at the OLB position. So they were moved to better maximize their talents.

With Pagano, the OLB better be able to rush the passer when needed or he won't be on the field. Point Blank. I've watched the short clips of practice on BR.com and Kruger has been spending most of his time with the LBs, not DL. Actually I haven't seen him with the DL once. But it's only a small sample, but I'll definitely be looking out for him tomorrow.

I think the difference between Mattison and Pagano is really showing up even in practice. Prescott Burgess has been JJ's backup at OLB for the last 3 years. However he offers little to no pass rush, so instead of putting him in positions were he won't succeed, Pagano has moved him to ILB. Well at least I hope its a permanent move.

Kruger isn't a full time DE, like Art Jones and Redding, so moving him outside would allow him to fully utilize his talents.

Guys like Pollard, Nakamura, Webb, Zibby, and maybe even Cary Williams will see a lot of blitzes this year. Something that Mattison didn't do much of.

From what I've heard and seen so far, I'm expecting huge things from the defense this year.
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+1 Good post. I feel well informed now. Too bad we had to get rid of Barnes. Sounds like he would be a good part of the OLB rotation in Pagano's D.

Sounds like Mattison would do better running a 4-3. I think Pagano will be better for our players strengths. And I really can't wait to see how he uses Pollard in the blitz schemes.

[PurpleReign92]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1312597506' post='737791']
+1 Good post. I feel well informed now. Too bad we had to get rid of Barnes. Sounds like he would be a good part of the OLB rotation in Pagano's D.

Sounds like Mattison would do better running a 4-3. I think Pagano will be better for our players strengths. And I really can't wait to see how he uses Pollard in the blitz schemes.
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You can't hate the efforts of Greg Mattison when he orchestrated this Chaos we call the Ravens defense... We came very very close and our D was nothing Shy of 2nd or 3rd best defense in this league... With a glimpse of number 1 sometimes during the season..

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='PurpleReign92' timestamp='1312633966' post='738042']
You can't hate the [b]efforts[/b] of Greg Mattison when he orchestrated this Chaos we call the Ravens defense... We came very very close and our D was nothing Shy of 2nd or 3rd best defense in this league... With a glimpse of number 1 sometimes during the season..
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Efforts, Im sure he tried I just think he was a horrible Dc and fit with this new "gentlemanlike" ravens team we are trying to create for some unknown reason. I like the fact that we have one crazy guy now though this ought to bring some better D because last year in comparison to what we expect from our d was atrocious and Mattison is lucky he was not chased out of town.

[Purple Punishment]

Sad thing about Kruger, his body type is that of a DE now, how is he supposed to go back to OLB carrying all of that weight? Mattison really stunted the growth of this team defensively for Pagano with some moves that were made before

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1312597506' post='737791']
+1 Good post. I feel well informed now. Too bad we had to get rid of Barnes. Sounds like he would be a good part of the OLB rotation in Pagano's D.

Sounds like Mattison would do better running a 4-3. I think Pagano will be better for our players strengths. And I really can't wait to see how he uses Pollard in the blitz schemes.
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Yea many people are down on Barnes, but the guy is definitely talented. I think his problem was he new he was talent and adopted the swagger of the Ravens Defense without the hard work that needs to be put in.

I think he would have done really well in Pagano's Defense.

However, I think that Albert McClellan might assuming that same type of role. Nothing more then a pass rush specialist, almost like a hired gun.

McClellan continues to impress me, and he had a really good showing today. I think Pagano will be sending him at the QB a lot this year. But he'll have to have a strong preseason, in order to cement his place on defense.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312661609' post='738325']
Yea many people are down on Barnes, but the guy is definitely talented. I think his problem was he new he was talent and adopted the swagger of the Ravens Defense without the hard work that needs to be put in.

I think he would have done really well in Pagano's Defense.

[b]However, I think that Albert McClellan might assuming that same type of role. Nothing more then a pass rush specialist, almost like a hired gun.

McClellan continues to impress me, and he had a really good showing today. I think Pagano will be sending him at the QB a lot this year. But he'll have to have a strong preseason, in order to cement his place on defense.[/b]
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I didn't pay a lot of attention to him, but I did notice McClellan knock Anthony Allen back several yards, and into Tyrod Taylor, causing him to fumble the ball.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312662908' post='738420']
I didn't pay a lot of attention to him, but I did notice McClellan knock Anthony Allen back several yards, and into Tyrod Taylor, causing him to fumble the ball.
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Yea he moved around a lot. He had his hand in the dirt, he stood up, he rushed from the outside, rushed from the ILB position. #50 moved around a lot when he was out there.

I think the preseason games will be a better indication of what he'll be able to do. But he was definitely one of the guys I was most impressed with today. Cary Williams also.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312663271' post='738436']
Yea he moved around a lot. He had his hand in the dirt, he stood up, he rushed from the outside, rushed from the ILB position. #50 moved around a lot when he was out there.

I think the preseason games will be a better indication of what he'll be able to do. But he was definitely one of the guys I was most impressed with today. Cary Williams also.
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Agreed. Looking forward to Albert in action during the preseason.

I was impressed with Williams as well. He seemingly always had tight coverage.

[Guest RBates]

Chuck Pagano looks alot more comfortable, as a coach than Mattison. Honestly Mattison, may have cost a Superbowl appearance. Pagano has what it takes to be an awesome Defensive Coordinator. Im officially on the Pagano band wagon, and we have not played a preseason game yet.

[TrueRaven1327]

we were getting pressure with a 4 man line. and he blitzed a corner.im liking what im seeing

[ellicottraven]

We won't really know his defensive identity till the regular season starts. Pagano is not going to show his cards prior to the regular season anyway. All you are seeing are vanilla defensive formations...

[scrock]

I already like what I'm hearing out of training camp and what I saw in the preseason game, just in the fact that we were bringing/getting more pressure on the QB. We would have had 2 or 3 more sacks if not for missed tackles.

I think our defense will be strong again this year and we wont be giving up leads week after week like last year.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1313356666' post='750990']
We won't really know his defensive identity till the regular season starts. Pagano is not going to show his cards prior to the regular season anyway. [b]All you are seeing are vanilla defensive formations...[/b]
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If the Eagles game was vanilla then the regular season will be like baskin Robins or a Dr Pepper.

As a defense we were much more aggressive and had much more movement in the Eagles game, then I saw all last year with Mattison.

I agree he won't show his hand, but he is showing he'll be aggressive and get after your QB, and it won't just be Suggs.

[Greatness]

I hope he tells the Corners to stop playing 40 yards off the WR's, too. We're giving up too much space. But I did like what I saw overall.

[TrueRaven1327]

i really like the fact that cary is playing with the 1st team.i have a feelin that jimmy and cary can make out to be a pretty good tandem of corners

[Corvus]

Anything is better than Mattison's 3 man rush but I too like what I have heard from Pagano.