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  1. 1. Would you trade 2nd round pick for Osi Umenyiora?

    • Yes
      33
    • No
      54
  2. 2. Which free agent WR would you rather have

    • Randy Moss
      28
    • Derrick Mason
      35
    • Braylon Edwards
      24
  3. 3. Are you happy with how the ravens have done so far in free agency?

    • Yes
      69
    • No
      18

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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1312207771' post='730371']
Maybe we can sign Ngata, release Redding, and have some more money. And hes a sack machine, that what we need. Were already good against the run. I do not think Torrey and Doss are ready to take over yet, and wont be atleast for another year. I agree resigning Mason because he knows our Offense, but I'd rather sign Moss, just for the fact its Randy Moss. And I agree with rest. But Back up QB, should be our next important posistion to adress.
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Why would you want to release a 3-4 DE, who is also our starter, and replace him with a 4-3 DE with a bump hip?
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[quote name='Bishop' timestamp='1312207352' post='730348']
Mistaken? 1 word .... Belichik
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Care to elaborate?
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[quote name='uhhhh' timestamp='1312208167' post='730380']
Why would you want to release a 3-4 DE, who is also our starter, and replace him with a 4-3 DE with a bump hip?
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That being Osi. Yes. We need sacks man. Thats the missing piece.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1312208468' post='730387']
That being Osi. Yes. We need sacks man. Thats the missing piece.
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I understand we need sacks, but I think osi is not the way. You can't just put a guy that's played 4-3 his entire career and just plug him in a 3-4 system. It would be pretty difficult to teach someone who is almost 30 a new system.
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[quote name='uhhhh' timestamp='1312208790' post='730392']
I understand we need sacks, but I think osi is not the way. You can't just put a guy that's played 4-3 his entire career and just plug him in a 3-4 system. It would be pretty difficult to teach someone who is almost 30 a new system.
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We could do more 4-3. And Im sure it wouldnt be to hard. They get paid millions to do this. I dont know who could contribute to our pass rush more then Osi could
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1312208956' post='730394']
We could do more 4-3. And Im sure it wouldnt be to hard. They get paid millions to do this. I dont know who could contribute to our pass rush more then Osi could
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You would change our defense for just 1 guy?. Personally I would like to get Matt Roth. He's played in a 3-4. Is also younger than osi. Has not had any serious injuries like osi (season ending knee injury in 2008 and an offseason hip surgery this year.) He only had 3,5 sacks, but had 24.5 QB hurries last year. He would also be cheaper, because he is already a free agent. So we don't have to give up a draftpick to get him.
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[quote name='uhhhh' timestamp='1312209303' post='730402']
You would change our defense for just 1 guy?. Personally I would like to get Matt Roth. He's played in a 3-4. Is also younger than osi. Has not had any serious injuries like osi (season ending knee injury in 2008 and an offseason hip surgery this year.) He only had 3,5 sacks, but had 24.5 QB hurries. He would also be cheaper, because he is already a free agent. So we don't have to give up a draftpick to get him.
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I dont really like him. I dont think he would be our answer. But JJ is comng back healthy this year, maybe he could help us.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1312209621' post='730413']
I dont really like him. I dont think he would be our answer. But JJ is comng back healthy this year, maybe he could help us.
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Let's hope so. I read that he has come back stronger, because he wasn't dealing with a injury like last year.
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[quote name='uhhhh' timestamp='1312209832' post='730424']
Let's hope so. I read that he has come back stronger, because he wasn't dealing with a injury like last year.
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Ehh I give or take 5 sacks...ESPN just said Giants owner gives permission for Osi to work out trades with teams lol. Guess they dont feel like doing it
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he got the real situation back which was yanda.he also got the run game complete by signing leach.taking care of cris carr to play nickel or starting corner was a great re-signing. now ozzie is about to mess around and get some fans happy in b-more. gotta love ozzie
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312208212' post='730381']
Care to elaborate?
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Moss learned from belichik . Mastermind at precision route running to shred any defensive scheme. Mason has never played for an offense as sophisticated as what moss played and shined in.
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[quote name='Bishop' timestamp='1312221692' post='730810']
Moss learned from belichik . Mastermind at precision route running to shred any defensive scheme. Mason has never played for an offense as sophisticated as what moss played and shined in.
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Is this is a joke?

What in the world do the offenses they've played in have to do with their abilities as route runners? Have you been asleep during the last six years when Mason was here? The man is an infinitely better route runner than Moss.
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I'd trade a 2nd rounder for Osi but the other issue is he wants big money which the ravens probably would not give him.

Of the 3 I'd rather have Mason. He knows our system and is a good possession guy. We have burners in Doss and Smith. Moss is retiring and lacked motivation last year after being dealt from NE. Braylon's hands can't be trusted. He is not a true number 1 guy.

In reality I think they have done pretty well. I'd like to see them address OL and pass rushing but otherwise I'm good with what has happened. There is still plenty of time and as other teams cut people I think we will swoop a few up a bargain prices. oz is great at doing that.
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[quote name='Bishop' timestamp='1312221692' post='730810']<br />Moss learned from belichik . Mastermind at precision route running to shred any defensive scheme. Mason has never played for an offense as sophisticated as what moss played and shined in.<br />[/quote]


What lol? Pretty sure Moss was a megastar before he even knew who belichick was. On top of that, Moss' route running consists of running as fast as he can down the sideline and jump for the ball (until Belichick decided to ruin Moss by trying to turn him into another Wes Welker).

Finally, I wouldn't call NE's dink and dunk offense with the occassional bomb 'sophisticated'.
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