Ngata's Contract Status

[KillaBirdTJ]

Greetings fellow Flock... As we all are well aware of (I hope by now at least), until we lock Ngata into a new contract, there will little to no moves made via free agency... So it's simple as presenting Ngata with an offer thats appropiate and then we can make a move or three, isn't it??? After all everyone else seems to have no problem signing their free agents... Why us?

[flynismo]

It will help. But still nothing huge will happen.

[Proxzyn]

[quote]Haloti Ngata didn't have any news on his contract. Said he's going to talk to his agent tonight. He's still hoping for a long-term deal[/quote]
From [url="http://twitter.com/#!/1WinningDrive"]Twitter[/url] 15 minutes ago.

[jaege]

What would be the benefit in waiting to sign Ngata? Is there one that is not obvious to me? They have signed nearly everyone else.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='jaege' timestamp='1311974107' post='725381']
What would be the benefit in waiting to sign Ngata? Is there one that is not obvious to me? They have signed nearly everyone else.
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Because if a fairly good NT signs for cheap somewhere we can use it as leverage against the Haynesworth contract that Ngata may be asking for.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='lgcs27288' timestamp='1311974907' post='725447']
Because if a fairly good NT signs for cheap somewhere we can use it as leverage against the Haynesworth contract that Ngata may be asking for.
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Haloti knows he's not going to be getting that kind of ridiculous contract. The basis for his contract will probably be Suh's contract, with Ngata getting a little more.

[GrimCoconut]

This deal needed to get done yesterday. I can't wait for them to sign him and move on. This is the one signing I'm most excited to read from the Ravens. Hopefully it's done tonight.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1311975072' post='725457']
Haloti knows he's not going to be getting that kind of ridiculous contract. The basis for his contract will probably be Suh's contract, with Ngata getting a little more.
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Still, the same logic applies.

[codizzle]

hensley tweeting that ngata will be signed a few days into training camp

[bdravens]

[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1311979325' post='725803']
hensley tweeting that ngata will be signed a few days into training camp
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It said thats when talks will begin. Who knows how long they could take.

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[quote name='bdravens' timestamp='1311979431' post='725808']
It said thats when talks will begin. Who knows how long they could take.
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true that.. misworded it.. my b..

[bdravens]

[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1311979587' post='725820']
true that.. misworded it.. my b..
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You're good. All that matters is that he gets signed ASAP.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='bdravens' timestamp='1311979431' post='725808']
It said thats when talks will begin. Who knows how long they could take.
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Yea and that means nothing will happen with Mason or Heap for at least another week, because I don't think the Ravens even begin talking to those guys until Ngata and probably a guy like Leach is signed.

[bdravens]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1311979752' post='725832']
Yea and that means nothing will happen with Mason or Heap for at least another week, because I don't think the Ravens even begin talking to those guys until Ngata and probably a guy like Leach is signed.
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No they will keep those guys interested. You can't turn your back on anybody even if you don't have the money, because even when you do have it, they'll be less inclined to return.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='bdravens' timestamp='1311980029' post='725854']
No they will keep those guys interested. You can't turn your back on anybody even if you don't have the money, because even when you do have it, they'll be less inclined to return.
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Yep. Case in point being the Jets w/ Braylon Edwards & Smith

[billsravens]

I thought they were already working on that new deal for Naghta what the hell have they been doing then NOTHING it took all their time to sign rookies are you kidding me I have had nothing but respect for this front office but right now it's fading they haven't done nothing to better this team yet

[codizzle]

[quote name='billsravens' timestamp='1311980572' post='725884']
I thought they were already working on that new deal for Naghta what the hell have they been doing then NOTHING it took all their time to sign rookies are you kidding me I have had nothing but respect for this front office but right now it's fading they haven't done nothing to better this team yet
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did u miss the draft? have a little faith..

[bdravens]

[quote name='billsravens' timestamp='1311980572' post='725884']
I thought they were already working on that new deal for Naghta what the hell have they been doing then NOTHING it took all their time to sign rookies are you kidding me I have had nothing but respect for this front office but right now it's fading they haven't done nothing to better this team yet
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K. Be sure to let us know how you feel in a few months. By the way, Ngata*

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='billsravens' timestamp='1311980572' post='725884']
I thought they were already working on that new deal for Naghta what the hell have they been doing then NOTHING it took all their time to sign rookies are you kidding me I have had nothing but respect for this front office but right now it's fading they haven't done nothing to better this team yet
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The Ravens are waiting for other teams to overspend on players and then to release their other players so they can come in and get bargain quality players. Just chill & see what happens. The only players we could lose that can't be replicated in FA were Ngata & Yanda who will remain w/ the Ravens.

[BirdWatcher]

Ngata contract update on the front page...no news though.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='bdravens' timestamp='1311980029' post='725854']
No they will keep those guys interested. You can't turn your back on anybody even if you don't have the money, because even when you do have it, they'll be less inclined to return.
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I never said they would turn their backs. But the fact of the matter is those guys were cut to create cap space, to re-sign Yanda, Ngata, and probably at least 1 FA.

Mainly after the Ngata deal the Ravens will have a better idea of where they stand with the cap. That will determine if a guy like Mason is offered the vet Min, or can you give him something close to what he actually wants.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='billsravens' timestamp='1311980572' post='725884']
I thought they were already working on that new deal for Naghta what the hell have they been doing then NOTHING it took all their time to sign rookies are you kidding me I have had nothing but respect for this front office but right now it's fading they haven't done nothing to better this team yet
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and who exactly has signed that would have make the Ravens a much better team? Someone who was actually a possiblity? We weren't gonna get Nnamdi, we weren't gonna get Edwards, and we expected to lose all the guys we did. Did we try and get Wilson back? Yea, but losing him didn't come as a surprise.

This first couple of days was like the first week of a normal FA period. Now that Nnamdi drama is over with, the second tier guys will start to get signed, this is where the Ravens will start to make moves.

I look for Leach or Vickers to be signed by no later then Tuesday. Or should I say I expect the FB position to have more clarity by Tuesday.

I expect something to happen with Carr quickly. He wants to start with with some much bigger names still out there, it doesn't look like many teams are biting on him.

More and more players will be either cut or traded over the next couple weeks. The sum of the football season isn't gonna be based off what happen the first 5 days after the Lockout ended.

If you are losing respect because the Ravens aren't making major moves with only about 4 million in cap space, then you probably didn't have much respect to begin with, because it'd be foolish to go out and spend over the cap with the amount of guys we'll have to take care of in the next 2 seasons.

We are willing to lose guys like, Landry, Wilson, McClain, Chester, etc, so we won't have to be faced with the same situations next year, with much more important players in line for contracts.

The Ravens aren't making moves( or appear not to be) for 2 reasons. One is because we don't run to the media everytime we are interested in a player. Ozzie likes to work behind the scenes as much as possible. The other reason is because, the Ravens don't have to move right now.

Guys like Leach, Vickers, Bulger, Houston, Sim-Walker, Whitner, Ronnie Brown, and other guys up for trades aren't going anywhere right now.

We are hearing reports today that Ozzie has inquired about Leach, why? Because Ozzie knows it's about that time for some of those second tier guys to start coming off the board.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='billsravens' timestamp='1311980572' post='725884']
I thought they were already working on that new deal for Naghta what the hell have they been doing then NOTHING it took all their time to sign rookies are you kidding me I have had nothing but respect for this front office but right now it's fading they haven't done nothing to better this team yet
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Come again? Try English next time!

[Yatagarasu]

Hey,

Any Update on how much Ngata wants?

These are the 2011 Franchised players that signed to long term contracts:

Peyton Manning, QB: 5 year $90 million
Tamba Hali, OLB: 5 year $60 million ($35 million guaranteed)
David Harris, ILB: 4 year $36 million ($29.5 million guaranteed)
Lamar Woodley, OLB: 6 year $61.5 million
Kamerion Wimbley, OLB: 5 year $48 million
Marcedes Lewis, TE: 5 year $35 million ($17 million guaranteed)

These are the 2011 players who signed their franchised tag:

Vincent Jackson, WR: 1 year $11.933 million (fully guaranteed)
Logan Mankins, G: 1 year $10.51 million (fully guaranteed)
Chad Greenway, ILB: 1 year $10.091 million (fully guaranteed)
Phil Dawson, K: 1 year $3.25 million (fully guaranteed)
Ryan Kalil, C: 1 year $10.51 million (fully guaranteed)
Michael Vick, QB: 1 year $15.975 million (fully guaranteed)
Paul Soliai, NT: 1 year $12.381 million (fully guaranteed)

Haloti Ngata situation:
Franchise tag, DE: 1 year $12.476 million (fully guaranteed)

Similar long-term contracts:
Albert Haynesworth, DT: 7 year $100 million ($41 million guaranteed) or up to $14.268 million per year
Richard Seymour, DT: 2 year $30 million ($22.5 million guaranteed) or up to $15 million per year
Ndamukong Suh, DT: 5 year, $68 million ($40 million guaranteed) or up to $13.6 million per year

[Ed_Reed20]

Here's the only news I've seen:

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"For those asking about Haloti Ngata, talks are ongoing. To hammer out a blockbuster deal like that takes time. Major undertaking." - Aaron Wilson
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[jimmysmith3]

I think we all need to chill and be patient. It's obviously inevitable, so we just need to wait and when there is any news we will surely be informed by Aaron Wilson and Jamieson Hesley.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312582302' post='737394']
Here's the only news I've seen:
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Blah, just start at Suh's contract and go from there haha

[gregreid5]

5 yrs 70 million seems to be what it will be or something in that range. That would be 14 million a year. Ravens should feel happy if they can get it down to 5 yr 65. Still a lot but Ngata is the man. Hes probably our best player at this point. He is the best 34 interior player in the NFL

[H8R]

I sure hope they get it done. Ngata and his agent are holding our season hostage right now.. we need cap space... ohhhh knowzzzz


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[arnie_uk]

just bumping this back up to the top, any more news? this is really hindering us, because im assuming the FO have their eyes at least on OL depth, if not a pass rusher and WR.

Is he looking a deal like Hanynesworth? and were not prepapred to offer, or whats the hold up? When you see manning take less than he knows he could get to help the team sign players quick, it just makes you wonder what is actually going on.

You cant blame him for wanting alot of money (if thats the holdup) but id like to have seen him pout the team first like manning, again if thats the holdup..