First Look At Jimmy Smith

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1311969544' post='725190']
Seriously, it means nothing. He got beat on two plays in his first day at camp by Torey Smith, someone we hoping that turns out special at that, so what?
[/quote]
He only got beat on two plays by a speed demon reciver. That is pretty good, only two plays, if he did that every pratice or game he would only give up two possesions to a Speed guy. That means that he could lock up possesion guys. As for his injury, he will recover.

[SuRihtanil]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311963380' post='724924']
Yeah, here's to hoping The Jimmy becomes our own Nnamdi
[/quote]

Its what I'm hoping for, but I'll be happy as long as he is just a good player.

[Yurtle]

I don't know. In on of the training camp videos it shows what looks like a guy catch the ball over the middle with him nearby. I hope he's really good too, but I'll be honest: he hasn't fired out of the gate like I thought he would. He seems like a gamer though, so I don't really think practice and 7-on-7 is indicative of his ability.

[wayne]

[quote name='Yurtle' timestamp='1312251184' post='731437']
I don't know. In on of the training camp videos it shows what looks like a guy catch the ball over the middle with him nearby. I hope he's really good too, but I'll be honest: he hasn[b]'t fired out of the gate like I thought he would.[/b] He seems like a gamer though, so I don't really think practice and 7-on-7 is indicative of his ability.
[/quote]
.....and you are making that assessment based off what?

[BloodRaven]

Every team has a 6'2" corner, I don't know why everyone though he would be Asomugha from day one. Smith is going to be a bit of a project, and that's assuming he actually becomes a good player.

[wayne]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1312262673' post='731564']
Every team has a 6'2" corner, [b]I don't know why everyone though he would be Asomugha from day one. Smith is going to be a bit of a project, and that's assuming he actually becomes a good player.[/b]
[/quote]
What makes you think his chances of playing like Asomugha or some what close to him is dead? What makes you think he will be a project which that is the most logical thing to assume but that doesn't guarantee anything. What are y'all basing your assessments on, two catches completed on him by Torey?

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1312262673' post='731564']
Every team has a 6'2" corner, I don't know why everyone though he would be Asomugha from day one. Smith is going to be a bit of a project, and that's assuming he actually becomes a good player.
[/quote]

I said it before, Revis wasn't Revis until his third year. Asomugha took time to become a shutdown corner. You can't just come in and be one of those guys, it's going to take time and hard work to be a shutdown corner. I'm not saying The Jimmy won't be effective on the team, I'm just saying he's not going to be a shutdown corner as a rookie.

[flynismo]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1312260080' post='731532']<br />.....and you are making that assessment based off what?[/quote]


I was scared for a min. I thought I slept through Aug and Sept and woke up in October when I read that post.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1312267576' post='731603']
What makes you think his chances of playing like Asomugha or some what close to him is dead? What makes you think he will be a project which that is the most logical thing to assume but that doesn't guarantee anything. What are y'all basing your assessments on, two catches completed on him by Torey?
[/quote]

I'm not saying he has no chance of being the next Asomugha, I'm saying he has little chance based on the numbers. That was more directed at all the countless posts that proclaimed Smith to be a shutdown corner as a rookie, he has a long way to go before we see how good he can be.

[wayne]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1312268626' post='731608']
I said it before, Revis wasn't Revis until his third year. Asomugha took time to become a shutdown corner. You can't just come in and be one of those guys, it's going to take time and hard work to be a shutdown corner. I'm not saying The Jimmy won't be effective on the team, I'm just saying he's not going to be a shutdown corner as a rookie.
[/quote]
That's understood but you don't have to be a shutdown CB off the bat to be a good CB in this league. Of course we don't expect him to be Revis or Aso his rookie year ( it's not completely out of the possibility realm,lol ) but we feel he will be one of the better CB's in the league starting out and over time become like Revis or Aso, preferably sooner than later.

[flynismo]

Yeah I can definitely understand the reservations about even assuming he will be a good CB, much less a Nnamdi. But it's rare (for me anyway) to see a guy play and the thought of anything less than greatness even crossing my mind. And I'm fortunate to have not one, but two guys (Kindle being the other) who would absolutely shock me if they were anything less than perennial Pro Bowlers. Only other two guys we drafted in the last 8 years or so that I felt this way about were Ngata and Rice. Figure since I have a 100% ratio so far (lol) I gotta be onto something here

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1312276891' post='731634']
Yeah I can definitely understand the reservations about even assuming he will be a good CB, much less a Nnamdi. But it's rare (for me anyway) to see a guy play and the thought of anything less than greatness even crossing my mind. And I'm fortunate to have not one, but two guys (Kindle being the other) who would absolutely shock me if they were anything less than perennial Pro Bowlers. Only other two guys we drafted in the last 8 years or so that I felt this way about were Ngata and Rice.[b] Figure[/b] since I have a 100% ratio so far (lol) I gotta be onto something here
[/quote]

Is that Figure or Figurs, because throwing that name out there will lower your ratio to about 62%.

[Radinho84]

i just wonder how he did those 24 reps on the bench with those tiny arms. they are freaking long. lol that makes it even more impressive. kids just lokking like hes having a lot of fun.

like hearing about kindle beeing impressive though...

[harfordravenfan]

Really looking forward to seeing what Jimmy can do pressing at the line once he's settled in with that kinda upper body strength. Still can't believe he out pressed some linemen lol

[quote name='Radinho84' timestamp='1312283178' post='731647']
i just wonder how he did those 24 reps on the bench with those tiny arms. they are freaking long. lol that makes it even more impressive. kids just lokking like hes having a lot of fun.

like hearing about kindle beeing impressive though...
[/quote]

[H8R]

[quote name='Radinho84' timestamp='1312283178' post='731647']
[b]i just wonder how he did those 24 reps on the bench with those tiny arms[/b]. they are freaking long. lol that makes it even more impressive. kids just lokking like hes having a lot of fun.

like hearing about kindle beeing impressive though...
[/quote]


Long lean muscle, not to mention bench is more shoulders and chest/tri.

[Radinho84]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1312291103' post='731701']
Long lean muscle, not to mention bench is more shoulders and chest/tri.
[/quote]
i know what benching is about brother, i am able to bench 400 pounds!!!!
i have seen photos of jimmy where it seems that he hasn´t a chest at all. big shoulders though. you´re right about that.

i just whanted to point out that it is impressing for a guy like his to bench that much and be able to move like he does. it wasn´t against him, more for him lol.

i like the fact that he can just push the receivers back at the line. not many corners in the league are that strong. maybe only finnegan or vontae davis.

also have to get a jersey soon!!!!

love our young fellas!!

[Kwothdaraven]

Jusr started following him on twitter, seems like an extremely down to earth guy

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1312262673' post='731564']
Every team has a 6'2" corner, I don't know why everyone though he would be Asomugha from day one. Smith is going to be a bit of a project, and that's assuming he actually becomes a good player.
[/quote]
He has star written all over him talent wise, if he choses to be a good citizen than he will reach his potentiel. He has Ed Reed and Foxworth as his mentors. He should be just fine.

[H8R]

BloodRaven, a project corner? I sure hope he's more then that to be picked in the first round. I'd say he's closer to being a starter then he is to a special teamer.

[Kwothdaraven]

Dude really? Project corner? He was the best cb in the draft arguably

[SecretAgentMan]

I here he keeps getting dusted, but he does have that talent, he is a rookie, they have to get used to the system, but to an undrafted wideout???? Really

[scrock]

I've heard mixed things so far, but you know its going to take time for him to get used to the scheme, like the first day he practiced he said he was surprised at how physical the WRs are...so he's adjusted and now he hits them at the line..I think he needs to track the WR better in their routes..but its early and he has time to grow, its not like he has to be the #1 CB immediately, we have depth

I expect him to be very good

[Ravensfan23]

I hear that Jimmy is really good in press coverage, but is struggling with off coverage.

I think it's also important to notice that 1 on 1 in practice is much harder then actual game situation. Flacco or any other QB gets to sit back and lock in on that one WR.

In actually game situation, the QB will hopefully have Suggs, Kindle, Ngata, and Kruger breathing down his neck, with Ed Reed lurking over the top of the coverage.

So if Jimmy is farther along in his press coverage then his off man coverage, I think that's good. At least in a game he'll disrupt the timing and force the QB to hold the ball longer.

Also, I hear that Flacco is deadly accurate with mot of his passing in camp this year, and sometimes there just isn't defense for a perfect pass.

[Kwothdaraven]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1312335531' post='732744']
I here he keeps getting dusted, but he does have that talent, he is a rookie, they have to get used to the system, but to an undrafted wideout???? Really
[/quote]

Whete are you hearing that from? Besides he's only practiced twice...

[scrock]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312336395' post='732772']
I hear that Jimmy is really good in press coverage, but is struggling with off coverage.

[b]I think it's also important to notice that 1 on 1 in practice is much harder then actual game situation. Flacco or any other QB gets to sit back and lock in on that one WR. [/b]

In actually game situation, the QB will hopefully have Suggs, Kindle, Ngata, and Kruger breathing down his neck, with Ed Reed lurking over the top of the coverage.

So if Jimmy is farther along in his press coverage then his off man coverage, I think that's good. At least in a game he'll disrupt the timing and force the QB to hold the ball longer.

Also, I hear that Flacco is deadly accurate with mot of his passing in camp this year, and sometimes there just isn't defense for a perfect pass.
[/quote]

excellent point

[Runnin Raven]

His head is probably swimming with all the challenges at the pro level. No more just relying on physical gifts. But he has to be good...all the pundits as well as our own scouts saw the elite potential. I have a feeling he is a work in progress. I have a feeling he won't really start to shine until well into this season or maybe even next. Hope I'm wrong - maybe he'll be a quick study.

[FerrariFan87]

Jimmy's going to be just fine... baby steps... can't wait to see him on Saturday!

[RoflDogs]

I still stand by the Antonio Cromartie comparison btw

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1312339276' post='732824']
I still stand by the Antonio Cromartie comparison btw
[/quote]

If you take out the 500 kids with 475 different women, lack of run support, and general character issues, Cromartie would be a top 5 corner in this league. Even with all that, a lot of people still believe he's that good. If that's the best The Jimmy can aspire to, that's a pretty good ceiling.

[SecretAgentMan]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/788491-2011-nfl-predictions-division-playoff-super-bowl-winners-more
Our Projections are good