Malcom Floyd Re-Signs with Chargers

[Blex64]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1312327805' post='732482']
Between the two, I'd go Floyd
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I would too.

With Moss "retiring" (we'll see if he stays off the field) Floyd's my top WR pick for us in FA.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1312327897' post='732486']
I highly doubt Edwards is on the front office's radar for a number of reasons. Mason and Floyd are the two obvious candidates currently, but from strictly a football standpoint, I think Braylon would be a better option than Floyd.
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Yea Edwards is more of a top of the rotation WR. He has all the potential to be a #1 he's just not mature enough.

Floyd is more of a homerun hitter. That guy that will only catch about 30 passes but have a 18ypc and about 3-5 TDs.

Watching Floyd team up with Jackson, it's not that hard to see why Phillip Rivers is considered one of the best deep ball throwers in the NFL.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

I would love to see Malcolm Floyd in purple and black. Despite his relatively low numbers, he is a hell of a target at 6'5. From what I hear this is almost a reality too.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1312328451' post='732513']
I would love to see Malcolm Floyd in purple and black. Despite his relatively low numbers, he is a hell of a target at 6'5. From what I hear this is almost a reality too.
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Well I think for him, other then a return to SD, which doesn't seem likely from what I've read. Baltimore would be the best situation for him. He could probably go somewhere like St Louis or with the Vikings and get a much larger role. However he's be much more comfortable in our system because he's been in it the last 7 years.

Plus he'd probably be a prefect fit for Flacco as far as the deep ball. Flacco has a great arm, and really good accuracy deep as well, however sometimes his timing is a bit off. I think it has more to do with slower WRs, but nevertheless Floyd would be able to overcome that with is size and leaping ability.

This will probably sound foolish to some, but if Floyd gives us the same exact production he gave SD over the last 3 years, he's be an upgrade over Mason imo. This is no knock to Mase, but.........in 2008 he had 27rec 465yds 17.2ypc 4TD....2009 45rec 776yds 17.2ypc 1TD.....2010, 37rec 717yds 19.4ypc 6TD

The reason why I say he'd be an upgrade, is because unlike Mason, he'll actually create space in the defense for Boldin, Doss, Rice and others.

I know Mason is a great WR and has been our #1 while Floyd hasn't even started much, but purely from a standpoint of what we are looking to do offensively this year(stretching the ball downfield more), I think the addition of Floyd would be a nice upgrade over Housh and Mason last year.

[Bullrush]

Edwards is a 6'3 Travis Taylor, let's stay away from that. The guy has stone hands and anything BUT clutch, he always messes up when he has a chance to step up and make a bigplay.

Floyd is a little overrated because of the stats he put up in a great offense where everybody was productive, but he's still a big target who makes bigplays and can be very effective in the redzone. I'd rather have him to be honest.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1312329250' post='732540']
Edwards is a 6'3 Travis Taylor, let's stay away from that. The guy has stone hands and anything BUT clutch, he always messes up when he has a chance to step up and make a bigplay.

[b]Floyd is a little overrated because of the stats he put up in a great offense where everybody was productive, but he's still a big target who makes bigplays and can be very effective in the redzone. I'd rather have him to be honest.[/b]
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I think that's the point. To add a guy like Floyd in hopes that he'll be apart of this offense turning into a great offense.

Floyd wouldn't come in to be the #1 WR, so he'd be able to do the same things he did in SD.

If Floyd, Boldin, Dickson, Smith, Doss, Pitta, Reed, Hardy or whoever else can open things up for Leach and Rice to pound away at defense, our running game because much better and explosive.

If teams have to focus on the running game, it'll open things up downfield more.

Imho there's no reason why the Ravens offense can't turn into one of the best in the NFL, and that's with or without Floyd.

[gabefergy]

From a pure production standpoint, I think Edwards would be the best option, but his immaturity and off the field problems give me pause. He gets a bad rap for dropping passes, and he definitely has had that problem in the past but last season I think he only dropped 1 or 2 balls. Interesting stat when Edwards caught a TD pass, the Jets were undefeated last season. He is a big guy who can go up and get the ball. I like Floyd too, and I think he would probably come cheaper than Edwards, but if financially there was no difference I would lean towards Braylon.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

I'm going Floyd between him and Edwards. I like Floyd. He's a good down field target.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1312329250' post='732540']
Edwards is a 6'3 Travis Taylor, let's stay away from that. The guy has stone hands and [b]an[/b]ything BUT clutch, he always messes up when he has a chance to step up and make a bigplay.

Floyd is a little overrated because of the stats he put up in a great offense where everybody was productive, but he's still a big target who makes bigplays and can be very effective in the redzone. I'd rather have him to be honest.
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To be fair, he made a huge catch against the Colts in the playoffs to help the Jets win the game.

[SecretAgentMan]

Why is it on wikipedia that he is a Viking, that is crap. Floyd would we a good fit, but I would reather get a right tackle, but boy imagin Floyd mand Boldin.... Flash forward

Ravens are down by 1 against the Jets with 50 seconds remaining, Flacco at the 50 he goes for a long bomb, looks like a throw to Floyd!!! He's got it!!!! Touchdown!!!!!!1

That is probably what would happen.

[CapoRocky]

Edwards will demand too much money and will be a detriment when we don't throw him the ball. Signing Edwards will hinder the progress of the rookies. Of the two, I would prefer Floyd simply because Edwards has hands of clay. Remember, there are only so many pass plays in Cameron's tool kit. Save our cap money to pick up a decent pass rusher later, or just in case someone gets injured before the end of training camp. I'm not impressed looking at what's left out there. Remember Mason isn't signed yet. He may be back.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Bullrush' timestamp='1312329250' post='732540']
Edwards is a 6'3 Travis Taylor, let's stay away from that. The guy has stone hands and anything BUT clutch, he always messes up when he has a chance to step up and make a bigplay.

Floyd is a little overrated because of the stats he put up in a great offense where everybody was productive, but he's still a big target who makes bigplays and can be very effective in the redzone. I'd rather have him to be honest.
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I strongly dislike Edwards, but you're making me defend him. Hes nowhere near as good as he thinks he is, but hes no Travis Taylor. He drops quite a few balls, but I've seen him make quite a few number of clutch catches. Most recently against the Colts.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1312330332' post='732567']
Why is it on wikipedia that he is a Viking, that is crap. Floyd would we a good fit, but I would reather get a right tackle, but boy imagin Floyd mand Boldin.... Flash forward

Ravens are down by 1 against the Jets with 50 seconds remaining, Flacco at the 50 he goes for a long bomb, looks like a throw to Floyd!!! He's got it!!!! Touchdown!!!!!!1

That is probably what would happen.
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Wikipedia is about as reliable as me telling you he got signed.

[CapoRocky]

Yeah and Housh did it once in the Pitt game and was never heard from much again the rest of the year. I don't want Edwards because he will drop the ball on 3rd or 4th down in clutch plays and cost us the game. Floyd is the best choice, but who will be cut to make up the salary cap room?

[SecretAgentMan]

How much do you think he will cost

[deadlychicken]

Hold on, we're talking Malcom Floyd, and not Malcolm Floyd his brother, right?

because I'd like us getting Malcom Floyd, Malcolm Floyd, not so much.

In all seriousness, a 6'5 solid veteran WR would be a good fit on our team, and help pave the way for our younglings.

[Token]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1312330432' post='732570']
Edwards will demand too much money and will be a detriment when we don't throw him the ball. Signing Edwards will hinder the progress of the rookies. Of the two, I would prefer Floyd simply because [b]Edwards has hands of clay[/b]. Remember, there are only so many pass plays in Cameron's tool kit. Save our cap money to pick up a decent pass rusher later, or just in case someone gets injured before the end of training camp. I'm not impressed looking at what's left out there. Remember Mason isn't signed yet. He may be back.
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To be fair to Braylon, he only had 1 or 2 drops last season.

[dt23]

Id rather us get Malcom for 1 simple reasons..Hes doesnt run with a traveling circus when hes not playing ball

[Ravenseconbeast]

Floyd was the odd man out of Chargers. He was barely noticeable for 6 years in chargers and that is with Philip Rivers passing him the ball. The highest he has ever caught was for a 750 yards his whole career (other numbers are 710 last year, 460 on year 2008, and before that, almost nothing).

He is definately not a #1,#2 receiver, but he'll demand a starter money. I hope he does not come here.

[T3hRaven]

Edwards has been getting into a lot of trouble off the field, I don't think a guy like that is a good investment. Floyd, on the other hand, knows his job is to be a complement to the main guy and perform as a number two receiver. He's a big body guy that fits Cam Cameron's system, and he's actually familiar with Cam. This means that he'll be catching balls instead of running end arounds. At this point, he's more polished than Hardy with similar, albeit overblown, injury concerns. If we could pick him up for a reasonable price on a two or three year deal, Floyd would be an excellent veteran addition to our receiving corps. He did some really nice things for Philip Rivers while Jackson was being a diva.

Giving Doss and Smith a cushion instead of throwing them under the bus is a good idea in my book, and considering Moss doesn't want to come here Floyd is the best remaining option.

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

lol his brothers name is spelled Malcolm, lol

[SecretAgentMan]

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[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1312339003' post='732821']
Edwards has been getting into a lot of trouble off the field, I don't think a guy like that is a good investment. Floyd, on the other hand, knows his job is to be a complement to the main guy and perform as a number two receiver. He's a big body guy that fits Cam Cameron's system, and he's actually familiar with Cam. This means that he'll be catching balls instead of running end arounds. At this point, he's more polished than Hardy with similar, albeit overblown, injury concerns. If we could pick him up for a reasonable price on a two or three year deal, Floyd would be an excellent veteran addition to our receiving corps. He did some really nice things for Philip Rivers while Jackson was being a diva.

Giving Doss and Smith a cushion instead of throwing them under the bus is a good idea in my book, and considering Moss doesn't want to come here Floyd is the best remaining option.
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Cam Cameron had a system? Since when?

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1312341245' post='732860']
Cam Cameron had a system? Since when?
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I didn't say he had a good system, but yes he does have a system. I believe it involves calling pass plays on third and short to run out the clock, running when the defense is giving the pass, passing when the defense is giving the run, using speed wide outs to run end arounds, making slow possession receivers run 9 routes, and quitting in the third quarter if we have a lead.

[AwakenTheDemon]

I'll pass on Floyd. He's a decent receiver, but he's very much a product of his system, Rivers, Jackson, and Gates. Now, I'm not saying he wouldn't make some plays if he were to come to town, but he's not going to live up to what some people would expect, he'd probably finish the season with a pretty average season.

[dt23]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1312344662' post='732975']
I'll pass on Floyd. He's a decent receiver, but he's very much a product of his system, Rivers, Jackson, and Gates. Now, I'm not saying he wouldn't make some plays if he were to come to town, but he's not going to live up to what some people would expect, he'd probably finish the season with a pretty average season.
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Dont agree with this at all he was producing very well as the #1 last year when Jackson held out and Gates was hurt

[BloodRaven]

Who's on the next tier below Floyd/Edwards?

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1312345173' post='732997']
Who's on the next tier below Floyd/Edwards?
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Mason, lol

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='dt23' timestamp='1312345005' post='732990']
Dont agree with this at all he was producing very well as the #1 last year when Jackson held out and Gates was hurt
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Who was throwing him the ball? Phillip Rivers. The same guy who made no names like Naanee and Ajirotutu look good. Rivers makes any receiver who's in blue and yellow look like a threat. Fact, he's been doing it for years. Floyd's "good", but he's nothing to write home about when you separate him from San Diego.

[scrock]

[quote name='dt23' timestamp='1312345005' post='732990']
Dont agree with this at all he was producing very well as the #1 last year when Jackson held out and Gates was hurt
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yeah..thats what im going off, he produced very well when Jackson wasnt there...had him on my fantasy squad, when he was healthy he was great