Malcom Floyd Re-Signs with Chargers

[PuRock]

I'm against Floyd he did nothing in Miami. Then he has Rivers chucking him the ball, and in a spread plan it made him look pretty good. But he's lanky and I just think if he comes here he'll be average at best.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1311793380' post='717999']
The WRs didn't always struggle to get open. Joe simply missed them at times. Most of us expect him to become quicker scanning the field. An o-line(along with the backs and tight ends) that doesn't constantly leak pressure will help as well.

The #1 WR talk [i]is[/i] redundant. Drawing up better plays for Q, and simply making plays, especially in the passing game, more efficiently eliminates the need for a dominant WR.
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Tell the Packers that having a great group of WRs is overrated... if we want to beat Pitt, we need to spread them out. That's not going to happen with T. Smith and Tandon Doss/David Reed as our #2 and #3, sorry.

O-line will get addressed regardless.... and yes, Joe needs to improve his decision-making and pre-snap reads as well.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1311793633' post='718010']
If you are talking Malcolm Floyd, then why not Roy Williams who will come just as cheaply if not cheaper? Also, didn't we just hire a 6' 5" WR in James Hardy? I say if we have to resign a free agent WR, we get Mase back at a more cap friendly price and move on from there...
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Can James Hardy really be counted on to stay healthy though? He has a lot of potential if he can, but that's a big IF.

[flynismo]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311791398' post='717921']<br />Agreed. Same people saying that we shouldn'tve drafted Smith are the same ones who are saying give him a shot at the number 2 spot. I think its laughable, kinda wishy washy if you will. Floyd would come cheap, and be a great outside reciever. Put Boldin at the stuff he was doing in Az as a second reciever, with him in the slot, and put Smith on the other outside reciever spot, and we have a trio of great, complementary recievers.<br />[/quote]

well, thanks for your backhanded insult, but maybe I've accepted the fact that Torrey is here whether I like it or not. Maybe I realize that I could be completely wrong about Torrey, and will never know until he proves one way or the other. Or maybe I simply think it's idiotic to not give a 2nd round draft pick a chance to win a starting spot on the team when an opening reveals itself.

Call that laughable and wishy washy if you like. I prefer to think it is sensible.

[flynismo]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311791246' post='717918']<br />Sorry, but you're way off-base here... we really need a #1 WR to complement Boldin.<br />[/quote]


it's cool, but if you consider Floyd a true #1 then I'm not the one off base

[Corvus]

Where did the concept that Floyd would come cheap come from? Granted he was in a pass happy offense with Rivers throwin to him but he put up pretty darn good numbers the last two seasons when he wasn't hurt. He could easily get $4+ mil a year from some teams out there including San Diego. I wouldn't mind having him even though I'd prefer our WR youth movement to go full swing. I just don't think he'll be as "cheap" of an option as some of you think...

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311793915' post='718031']
Tell the Packers that having a great group of WRs is overrated... if we want to beat Pitt, we need to spread them out. That's not going to happen with T. Smith and Tandon Doss/David Reed as our #2 and #3, sorry.

O-line will get addressed regardless.... and yes, Joe needs to improve his decision-making and pre-snap reads as well.
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You're proving my point.

Is Greg Jennings truly a #1 WR, or a guy with above-average talent in a good system, who's had some even better QBs throwing to him? Donald Driver hasn't been #1 WR for years, but he can still make plays. Jordy Nelson is much like Jennings. James Jones may be the most talented player among that group, but he's considered expendable because of big drops.

I'm not expecting Torrey, Doss or Reed to relied upon heavily early next season, which is why I've said a number of times I won't have a problem with Floyd being signed, or Mason re-upped.

However, did you see Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown supplanting Antwan Randle El, and cutting into Hines Ward's snaps in preseason last year? Because it happened. The young WRs need opportunities to succeed. And going after Sidney Rice or Braylon Edwards would hurt them short-term, and possibly long-term.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1311794258' post='718051']
it's cool, but if you consider Floyd a true #1 then I'm not the one off base
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I'm not saying Floyd is a true #1 at all.... it was more of a general statement. Floyd would, however, be an upgrade over D-Mase at this point of their respective careers.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1311794869' post='718078']
You're proving my point.

Is Greg Jennings truly a #1 WR, or a guy with above-average talent in a good system, with some even better QBs throwing to him? Donald Driver hasn't been #1 WR for years, but he can still make plays. Jordy Nelson is much like Jennings. James Jones may be the most talented player among that group, but he's considered expendable because of big drops.

I'm not expecting Torrey, Doss or Reed to relied upon heavily early next season, which is why I've said a number of times I don't have a problem with Floyd being signed, or Mason re-upped.

However, did you see Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown supplanting Antwan Randle El, and cutting into Hines Ward's snaps last season? Because it happened. The young WRs need opportunities to succeed. And going after Sidney Rice or Braylon Edwards would hurt them short-term, and possibly long-term.
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Should be an interesting Training Camp and Preseason, that's for sure! I'm excited to see who steps up... if Torrey, Doss, and Reed aren't relied on, then who's Joe going to throw the ball to with Boldin getting doubled???

[Romo Ravens]

Lol, so since there's a rumor that the Ravens are interested in Floyd, he's become a number 1 WR. News flash, Boldin [i]IS[/i] our number 1 WR, and if you can't accept that, that's on you. He needed time in our system, and it's hard when the WR oppsite of you is almost identical. Torrey Smith is the perfect compliment to Boldin. He's quick and can blow the top off of the defense. Instead of using that money on yet another underachieving WR, how about we play some our own guys, and use that money to help the defensive/offensive line. Crazy idea, huh?

[sflegend89]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1311791130' post='717913']
Don't need no stinkin' WR. If we dont resign Mase, let Torrey and Doss show why they were drafted, and let's see what David Reed's got.
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I agree that our young wr's need they're touches but it be a horrible idea not to bring in another wr with [u]experience starting in the NFL[/u]. In a year where Superbowl is the goal, you really trust 3 wr's with absolutely no experience starting in the NFL? Rookie wr's are known for not making a huge splash anyway. Plus with even less camps and team activities this year, we need a young wr that actually has experience starting. I love Torey and Doss as much as the next guy but it's not realistic to expect both to come in and start right away.

A player like Sidney Rice makes the most sense. He's young, he has experience starting, size/deep ball threat(which would be killer with Joe at QB), won't command the money he could be getting (injury last year cost him a huge pay day in FA, which is good for us). Then we can put Torrey at #3 and let Doss/Reed play certain formations/sub in. We would bolster and explosive passing attack with youth in spades, that's also a long term solution for our wr core

[Jabara]

I'd like to see Floyd or Rice, i'd rather not go into the season starting a bunch of rookies and 2nd year players, Dickson and Pitta included. If we can't resign Heap and Mason, I would hope we can at the very least sign a vet WR like Floyd or Rice

[True]

I would be fine with letting Torrey Smith, Tandon Doss, and David Reed fight for the 2nd spot. But that really isn't the Ravens style to throw rookies right into the fire, and they usually let them slowly become a part of the team.

The Ravens should use Malcolm Floyd as the #2 WR on a stop and gap contract (2 years, option for 3rd) so you have a reliable experienced player who can be your starter alongside Anquan Boldin. Due to lack of mini caps and OTAs the rookies will still have to learn the system and adjust to the speed of the NFL. With someone like Floyd who has already spent time in the NFL the adjustment would be much easier and faster than for a rookie fresh out of college.

This will allow you to still have a reliable veteran that will keep your offense going and from whom the young rookies can learn from and share snaps with before eventually taking over as full time starters.

[boots0608]

i dont think we should resign mason. its just time to let the young bucks have a shot. flacco needs to be the field general and lead that offense, and he cant do that when mason is on the sidelines yelling at him. torrey smith needs to show what he can do. boldin needs to be boldin. david reed has a chance to shine. along with all those others receivers we have on the practice squad

[ooo sugahhh 52]

if we dont bring back mason i would love to see floyd in a ravens jersey. the packers gave us the blueprint to beat the steelers and we need experienced receivers to do that. while i love smith doss and reed they have all yet to catch a pass in the nfl. they are the future but i want to win now

[boots0608]

the pats had their own blueprint to beat the steelers too. we had a blueprint of our own and it was working until a couple picks, a fumble, and a few dropped passes costed us the game. people tend to forget that. that last game was ours. we were whooping their butts and we have all the talent, if not more, to do it again

[ooo sugahhh 52]

[quote name='boots0608' timestamp='1311797387' post='718157']
the pats had their own blueprint to beat the steelers too. we had a blueprint of our own and it was working until a couple picks, a fumble, and a few dropped passes costed us the game. people tend to forget that. that last game was ours. we were whooping their butts and we have all the talent, if not more, to do it again
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very true then at least bring back mason

[sflegend89]

[quote name='boots0608' timestamp='1311797387' post='718157']
the pats had their own blueprint to beat the steelers too. [b]we had a blueprint of our own and it was working until a couple picks, a fumble, and a few dropped passes costed us the game. people tend to forget that. that last game was ours. we were whooping their butts and we have all the talent, if not more, to do it again[/b]
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Can we all agree to never talk about that game EVER again

[Radinho84]

i don´t know if we need another veteran besides Q. look how it panned out in pittsbourgh. they played their young receivers and they did good things for them.

we have three very talented guys in reed smith and doss and i would rather see them on the field than any 30+ year old guy who would hold their progression back...

PLAY THE YOUNG FELLAS!!!

[CapoRocky]

I bet Gregg, Heap and Mason took it the hardest. At least, McGahee saw the writing on the wall.

[cant knock the hustle]

I agree that Emmanuel Sanders is a good example of what could happen with our young receivers, but Sanders was a #3 WR after eventually working his way into the starting rotation in front of Randle El. I think Smith and Doss are as, if not more, capable than Sanders, but I don't think there is any way Sanders could have put up the numbers he did if he was lining up with Hines Ward instead of having defenses key in on Ward and Wallace. I do not think Torrey Smith is ready to be a starter week 1. I don't think any of our receivers (aside from Boldin and Reed as a looong shot) are ready to be starters week 1. Most rookie receivers usually struggle early on, even the ones that are more polished, and Torrey Smith is not a polished receiver. I think what Torrey Smith will do is exactly what he was drafted for, to take the top off of defenses. But I do not think he will be able to do this as effectively without a guy like Floyd. Mason would work as well. But there is no way we can go into the season without addressing the need of WR and pretend that it does not exist. I think Floyd would work very well in Baltimore and serve as a great complement to Boldin and Smith. Floyd is great deep and this would give Flacco a big target to stretch the field. I would love to say we already have that guy in Hardy, but it is too early to tell.

[Juviebest]

The Vikings are seriously looking at Floyd per rotoworld.com. It would make sense since they lost Rice to the Seahawks.

Kind of a bummer since Floyd brings experience and deep routes that our WR corps need.

[Ravensfan23]

Aaron Wilson just tweeted that the Ravens still have interest in Malcom Floyd. How much, no one knows but Ozzie and company, but if the price is right, he might become a Raven soon.

He also Tweeted that the Ravens remain in touch with Mason, so I'm thinking that Ngata and a WR are the next guys to sign.

Reading back over this thread, I can't believe how many people are bashing Mason. You can't deny that Mason might just be the best WR in Ravens history. So I can see why some fans want him back.

Also I can see why some fans want Floyd. Malcom Floyd is the equivalent to a pass rush specialist imo. He'll be a deep threat specialist, more so then Torrey Smith.

I think the Ravens really want to mold Torrey Smith into that #2 WR role, not just a "deep threat". Floyd has averaged at least 17.2 yards per catch over the last 3 years. With at least 27 catches.

So the notion that he's a #1 WR, I don't agree with. Even with the Floyd signing, I still think we will see a heavy dose of Smith and Reed. Even Doss and Hardy will see the field often, depending on what they show in preseason.

I think what Floyd brings more then anything is a proven deep threat. He's a guy that week #1 the Steelers will have to respect down field, as opposed to them making Torrey Smith prove he needs to be respected down field.

I like our young guys, but I don't think the Ravens will feel comfortable going into the season with such inexperience at the WR and TE position. So I definitely think that either Mason or Floyd will be signed, probably before Wednesday.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1312149964' post='729551']
Aaron Wilson just tweeted that the Ravens still have interest in Malcom Floyd. How much, no one knows but Ozzie and company, but if the price is right, he might become a Raven soon.

He also Tweeted that the Ravens remain in touch with Mason, so I'm thinking that Ngata and a WR are the next guys to sign.

Reading back over this thread, I can't believe how many people are bashing Mason. You can't deny that Mason might just be the best WR in Ravens history. So I can see why some fans want him back.

Also I can see why some fans want Floyd. Malcom Floyd is the equivalent to a pass rush specialist imo. He'll be a deep threat specialist, more so then Torrey Smith.

I think the Ravens really want to mold Torrey Smith into that #2 WR role, not just a "deep threat". Floyd has averaged at least 17.2 yards per catch over the last 3 years. With at least 27 catches.

So the notion that he's a #1 WR, I don't agree with. Even with the Floyd signing, I still think we will see a heavy dose of Smith and Reed. Even Doss and Hardy will see the field often, depending on what they show in preseason.

I think what Floyd brings more then anything is a proven deep threat. He's a guy that week #1 the Steelers will have to respect down field, as opposed to them making Torrey Smith prove he needs to be respected down field.

I like our young guys, but I don't think the Ravens will feel comfortable going into the season with such inexperience at the WR and TE position. So I definitely think that either Mason or Floyd will be signed, probably before Wednesday.
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Man. Floyd would just be icing on the cake. He'd fit great in our offense.

[Raven07]

Aron Wilson of the Carroll County Times reports via Twitter, that the Ravens are interested in Chargers WR Malcolm Floyd

" @jfelderstein37 Ravens have interest in San Diego Chargers WR Malcom Floyd. "

[reediddy]

[quote name='Juviebest' timestamp='1311859941' post='720641']
The Vikings are seriously looking at Floyd per rotoworld.com. It would make sense since they lost Rice to the Seahawks.

Kind of a bummer since Floyd brings experience and deep routes that our WR corps need.
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He might have all that, but I've seen firsthand living in San Diego that Floyd isn't ready for the big time and he crumbles in pressure. Go Moss

[1/28/01]

Wow, thought he was younger. He'll also be 30 before the start of game one.

[Purple Punishment]

Floyd [b]IS NOT[/b] a #1 receiver, nor is he a deep threat. If he was, he would have had an opportunity to show it in the abscence V-Jax last season. He really didn't though

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='Purple Punishment' timestamp='1312200723' post='730262']
Floyd [b]IS NOT[/b] a #1 receiver, nor is he a deep threat. If he was, he would have had an opportunity to show it in the abscence V-Jax last season. He really didn't though
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Who said he had to come here and be a number one receiver? He would just be a receiver who would compliment Boldin well and he fits well in Cam's offense.

And like I said before, Floyd has good speed and his height allows him to maximize it. It's shown by him averaging 19.4 yards a catch last year and the two years before that 17.2 yards per catch. He's a great downfield target.

[3-4 Assault]

I think Floyd is just a good fit in the system over in SD, I don't see him making much of an impact here.