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Malcom Floyd Re-Signs with Chargers

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With us releasing Derrick Mason and the Jets signing another FA WR in Santonio Holmes, I don't think it's out of the question for us to pick up Malcom Floyd. Yanda signed for a large amount of money that eats up our salary cap a little bit; however I think that Floyd could come fairly cheaply a be a big factor in our passing game. He's a tall receiver (6'5") and has fairly decent speed and could easily become a fantastic #2 or #3 option. What do you guys think.
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I personally want the Ravens to give our receivers a chance instead of signing any more free agents unless that free agent is Mason on the cheap.
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[quote name='eandb17' timestamp='1311788643' post='717778']
With us releasing Derrick Mason and the Jets signing another FA WR in Santonio Holmes, I don't think it's out of the question for us to pick up Malcom Floyd. Yanda signed for a large amount of money that eats up our salary cap a little bit; however I think that Floyd could come fairly cheaply a be a big factor in our passing game. He's a tall receiver (6'5") and has fairly decent speed and could easily become a fantastic #2 or #3 option. What do you guys think.
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If you sign Floyd he becomes your #1 receiver because of his size and speed combo. Boldin is your #2 and T Smith is your #3 is Mason isn't resigned. He could have a breakout year as a #1 receiver of Joe Flacco. The Ravens have always needed that big, tall, fast receiver and this could be their chance. He will be released by San Diego who have to make room for Vincent Jackson and his tender, and he makes a lot of sense for the Ravens. I'd give it about a 50% chance out of the gate and just think of the offense Joe could put up with a Floyd, Boldin, Smith combo... its light years faster, and more dynamic than the trio of possession guys we had last year.
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I would only prefer Mason back if we sign another WR. We need help at OT, OLB, and CB. That's what we should focus on.
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[quote name='itscbm5042' timestamp='1311788861' post='717786']
If you sign Floyd he becomes your #1 receiver because of his size and speed combo. Boldin is your #2 and T Smith is your #3 is Mason isn't resigned. He could have a breakout year as a #1 receiver of Joe Flacco. The Ravens have always needed that big, tall, fast receiver and this could be their chance. He will be released by San Diego who have to make room for Vincent Jackson and his tender, and he makes a lot of sense for the Ravens. I'd give it about a 50% chance out of the gate and just think of the offense Joe could put up with a Floyd, Boldin, Smith combo... its light years faster, and more dynamic than the trio of possession guys we had last year.
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Floyd would not be the number 1 and it's about time that the Ravens play their rookies and give them more shots. He had Rivers throwing him the ball, what makes you think he'd all of a sudden become a superstar with Flacco throwing it to him?
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Id rather get a true # 1 WR so Boldin would exceed like he did in Arizona. Even though he can be a number 1. Id rather have a faster, bigger WR. Like Rice, or Floyd, maybe even Burress. Edit: Or trade for steve smith.
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Hensley says Floyd is a possibility: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2011/07/keep_eye_on_malcom_floyd.html
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If we did resign Mason, where would his place be. We cut basically so we could get younger. I don't want to stunt the growth of Smith, Doss, etc. I think if we signed Floyd we could also help Flacco grow too. Mason last year kind of slowed down the pace with the 5 and 6 yard gains. Getting Floyd could help Flacco turn 6 yard gains into 10 yard gains.
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Don't need no stinkin' WR. If we dont resign Mase, let Torrey and Doss show why they were drafted, and let's see what David Reed's got.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1311791130' post='717913']
Don't need no stinkin' WR. If we dont resign Mase, let Torrey and Doss show why they were drafted, and let's see what David Reed's got.
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Sorry, but you're way off-base here... we really need a #1 WR to complement Boldin.
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[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311791246' post='717918']
Sorry, but you're way off-base here... we really need a #1 WR to complement Boldin.
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no we dont, complete waste of 3 draft picks if we go get another WR who isnt mason.
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[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311791246' post='717918']
Sorry, but you're way off-base here... we really need a #1 WR to complement Boldin.
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Agreed. Same people saying that we shouldn'tve drafted Smith are the same ones who are saying give him a shot at the number 2 spot. I think its laughable, kinda wishy washy if you will. Floyd would come cheap, and be a great outside reciever. Put Boldin at the stuff he was doing in Az as a second reciever, with him in the slot, and put Smith on the other outside reciever spot, and we have a trio of great, complementary recievers.
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[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311791246' post='717918']
Sorry, but you're way off-base here... we really need a #1 WR to complement Boldin.
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Or, the team can sign a RT and FB to improve the ground game and give Joe more time to throw to Q, Rice, and the youngsters.

I'm not really against signing Floyd, or re-signing Mase, but the #1 WR talk has become redundant.
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[quote name='mawcb' timestamp='1311791379' post='717920']
no we dont, complete waste of 3 draft picks if we go get another WR who isnt mason.
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Getting Mase back would be more for sentimentality reasons than the actual football game purposes. Sure Mase is still a decent player, and is tough.... but does he bring anything we don't have in Boldin?? Nope.
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[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311791398' post='717921']
Agreed. Same people saying that we shouldn'tve drafted Smith are the same ones who are saying give him a shot at the number 2 spot. I think its laughable, kinda wishy washy if you will. Floyd would come cheap, and be a great outside reciever. Put Boldin at the stuff he was doing in Az as a second reciever, with him in the slot, and put Smith on the other outside reciever spot, and we have a trio of great, complementary recievers.
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Agreed, Floyd and Torrey Smith stretch the field and spread that defense, last year we had 3 slow but reliable possession receivers. This year would be a lot different if they can bring Floyd in. Flacco throws one of the best deep balls in the league, freaking use it!
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[quote name='mawcb' timestamp='1311791538' post='717926']
why would we draft david reed and tandon doss to just go get another WR lol
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We drafted David Reed last year, and Torrey Smith this year. We need a reliable reciever to complement Boldin. This is an absolute must. Mase is not the answer IMO. Smith/Doss/Reed have very litte experience in doing anything because of the lockout.
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[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311791807' post='717936']
We drafted David Reed last year, and Torrey Smith this year. We need a reliable reciever to complement Boldin. This is an absolute must. Mase is not the answer IMO. Smith/Doss/Reed have very litte experience in doing anything because of the lockout.
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I don't know if you can make a case that Malcolm Floyd, or Sidney Rice, or any FA receiver is more reliable than Derrick Mason. Especially on this team.
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[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311791807' post='717936']
We drafted David Reed last year, and Torrey Smith this year. We need a reliable reciever to complement Boldin. This is an absolute must. Mase is not the answer IMO. Smith/Doss/Reed have very litte experience in doing anything because of the lockout.
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true but not for a long term deal, maybe a 1 or 2 year deal but we NEED to try our own guys our at some point.
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Floyd 2year 8 million deal I think would be good. But hey I dont really know much about contracts.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1311791985' post='717944']
I don't know if you can make a case that Malcolm Floyd, or Sidney Rice, or any FA receiver is more reliable than Derrick Mason. Especially on this team.
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Yeah, sure he's reliable, but in my opinion he held Flacco back too much because all Flacco did was throw it his way, and if Mase was tightly covered, Flacco either forced it to him or got sacked because he kept waiting for him to get open. I love Mase. I think he was a very underrated player. But we need someone who fits the team, but is also reliable at the same time. Mase is an undersized underneath possession guy, much like Boldin. That doesn't complement each other very well at all. One tall guy who can go deep (Floyd), one underneath strong possession reciever (Boldin), and one speed guy (Smith) is our recipe for success, IMO.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1311791450' post='717922']
Or, the team can sign a RT and FB to improve the ground game and give Joe more time to throw to Q, Rice, and the youngsters.

I'm not really against signing Floyd, or re-signing Mase, but the #1 WR talk has become redundant.
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It won't matter that we have a solid O-line if the Wide Receivers can't get open like last season... hence why a #1 WR is such a commodity. It's anything but redundant, sir.
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Floyd seems like one of our best options, we also need the best pass rusher available in case Kindle isn't healthy enough.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1311792527' post='717973']
Floyd 2year 8 million deal I think would be good. But hey I dont really know much about contracts.
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Yeahhh not even close. Floyd would be a 3 or 4 year deal around 5 per year average I would think, cost about 3 mil against the cap if structured right.
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[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311792579' post='717977']
Yeah, sure he's reliable, but in my opinion he held Flacco back too much because all Flacco did was throw it his way, and if Mase was tightly covered, Flacco either forced it to him or got sacked because he kept waiting for him to get open. I love Mase. I think he was a very underrated player. But we need someone who fits the team, but is also reliable at the same time. Mase is an undersized underneath possession guy, much like Boldin. That doesn't complement each other very well at all. One tall guy who can go deep (Floyd), one underneath strong possession reciever (Boldin), and one speed guy (Smith) is our recipe for success, IMO.
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There's nothing undersized about Anquan Boldin. Both players may be labeled "possession receivers" but that's a broad term for a versatile player. I'd agree that their styles don't necessarily compliment each other but Mason has a spot on this team. The "go deep" and "speed" guy seem to be the same thing.

Both Ray Rice and Anquan Boldin caught more passes than Mason so it's unfair to say Flacco was only targeting him. If anything, our passing attack was more balanced than ever.
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[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1311792697' post='717983']
It won't matter that we have a solid O-line if the Wide Receivers can't get open like last season... hence why a #1 WR is such a commodity. It's anything but redundant, sir.
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The WRs didn't always struggle to get open. Joe simply missed them at times. Most of us expect him to become quicker scanning the field. An o-line(along with the backs and tight ends) that doesn't constantly leak pressure will help as well.

The #1 WR talk [i]is[/i] redundant. Drawing up better plays for Q, and simply making plays, especially in the passing game, more efficiently eliminates the need for a dominant WR.
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Floyd may make sense because he's so physically different than any receivers on the Ravens roster, height and speed combination [i](edit - besides James Hardy as pointed out below)[/i], but I don't like the thought of investing that much money in such an unproven quantity. His production is really underwhelming.
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If you are talking Malcolm Floyd, then why not Roy Williams who will come just as cheaply if not cheaper? Also, didn't we just hire a 6' 5" WR in James Hardy? I say if we have to resign a free agent WR, we get Mase back at a more cap friendly price and move on from there...
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I liked this guy in San Diego, he was doing big things last year before the got injured. That's the only problem with him, can he stay healthy?

Its just a rumor right now...I expect the Ravens to make some sort of splash in free agency just don't know how big and when...they could wait for the market to settle down.
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