ESPN Fantasy Football, 2011-2012

[JO_75]

I wouldn't even consider drafting Rice unless The Ravens were able to somehow retain Gaither/Yanda. I am going to be very skeptical of our offensive line even if we lose one of them, which most likely will be Gaither.

As for Arian Foster, I would still draft him if I had the # 1 Pick but I would be very concerned if the Texans didn't re-sign Vonta Leach. You could say Leach played a big role in helping Foster have the great season he had. Adrian Peterson, well he is running behind a aging offensive line which needs youth badly.

[Wacko4Zacko]

Texans D? Wade Philips taking over. I mean if they get Nnamdi. You already are talking about a team that has kareem jackson and bernard Pollard in secondary. Then Mario Williams and JJ Watt at DE. Brooks Reed and Brian Cushing at OLB with Demeco Ryans at ILB.

That D is good on paper, maybe Nnamdi can make it look a threat.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311567375' post='712535']
Texans D? Wade Philips taking over. I mean if they get Nnamdi. You already are talking about a team that has kareem jackson and bernard Pollard in secondary. Then Mario Williams and JJ Watt at DE. Brooks Reed and Brian Cushing at OLB with Demeco Ryans at ILB.

That D is good on paper, maybe Nnamdi can make it look a threat.
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I'm going to be skeptical about that d unless they get Nnamdi

[Wacko4Zacko]

Cowboys D? They with Rob Ryan should be better then last year. Dware needs to roll up some sacks.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311617174' post='712831']
Cowboys D? They with Rob Ryan should be better then last year. Dware needs to roll up some sacks.
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Unless their secondary improves, they're still going to get lit up.

[Wacko4Zacko]

Ravens D with or without Jimmy Smith. How is our fantasy value?

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311622513' post='712958']
Ravens D with or without Jimmy Smith. How is our fantasy value?
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It would still be fine either way. If he can get a lot of INT's, that's even better. If we kept Wilson as well, that's a lot turnovers by Ed, Smith and Wilson. My league favors defenses, so the Ravens should definitely be high on your list.

[lowrider]

I promised myself I wouldn't join a thousand leagues this year. I was in zero leagues a week and a half ago and now I'm in 4. I HAVE A PROBLEM!!!

[Wacko4Zacko]

Is anyone here even considering taking Big Ben before Flacco?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311633772' post='713274']
Is anyone here even considering taking Big Ben before Flacco?
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If I had to, I'd definitely draft Ben before Flacco. But I'm not targeting Ben. If I don't draft a QB early, I'm getting either Ryan, Freeman, Eli, or Joe.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311633772' post='713274']
Is anyone here even considering taking Big Ben before Flacco?
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I just check my BPA list, and nope, Big Ben isn't even on it! My one rule is , I won't own Big Ben. I can't allow myself to cheer for 1) a **** and 2) enemy #1.

He's the only one I delete off. I'll own Wallace, Ward, Mendenhall just not Ben.

[Wacko4Zacko]

So in case Heap doesn't come back. Who's fantasy value raises more? Dickson or Pitta?

[lowrider]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311651379' post='714444']
So in case Heap doesn't come back. Who's fantasy value raises more? Dickson or Pitta?
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Dickson without a doubt. And actually Dickson might not be a good backup/sleeper pick. Ravens offense utilizes the TE a decent amount

[Wacko4Zacko]

You can't trick me LR. I am not falling for any tricks this year. I see what you are doing, trying to get me to draft dickson instead of someone of more value

[lowrider]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1311651832' post='714463']
You can't trick me LR. I am not falling for any tricks this year. I see what you are doing, trying to get me to draft dickson instead of someone of more value
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hahaha. Thats why I said backup or sleeper. If you don't have Dickson as a number 2 or three TE on your team, I might. I would never do that to you Wacko

[Wacko4Zacko]

So Mike Williams of Seattle. How his value? he was a FA sleeper. I guess his value all depend son if Matt hasslebeck returns to Seahawks which I think he will and then Mike Williams could put up some nasty stats.

[T-ray]

Draft Randy Moss, Wacko. He just got done putting 23 TD's up and having a career year..... LOL

[lowrider]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311680842' post='714753']
Draft Randy Moss, Wacko. He just got done putting 23 TD's up and having a career year..... LOL
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I mean he did it once before, why not again?! I heard TO is in the best shape of his life. I can see him being a sleeper pick ....

[PuRock]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1311691638' post='715027']
I mean he did it once before, why not again?! [b]I heard TO is in the best shape of his life.[/b] I can see him being a sleeper pick ....
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I don't know about that. Didn't you hear he tore the ACL in his left knee this spring and had re-constructive surgery? He's not expected to sign with a team until earliest the end of preseason. He also ended last year missing games because of a separate knee injury.

Very, Very Risky. He has to learn a new system quickly (which he can probably do) but his knees are breaking down fast.

[T-ray]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1311692237' post='715054']
I don't know about that. Didn't you hear he tore the ACL in his left knee this spring and had re-constructive surgery? He's not expected to sign with a team until earliest the end of preseason. He also ended last year missing games because of a separate knee injury.

Very, Very Risky. He has to learn a new system quickly (which he can probably do) but his knees are breaking down fast.
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Shhh..... Wacko wasn't supposed to hear that!

[PuRock]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1311692781' post='715074']
Shhh..... Wacko wasn't supposed to hear that!
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Oh. I overlooked your original post. You guys were tempting Wacko. I saw Lowrider's post and thought he was being serious.

[lowrider]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1311693130' post='715088']
Oh. I overlooked your original post. You guys were tempting Wacko. I saw Lowrider's post and thought he was being serious.
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I'm kind of mad you thought I was being serious. lol. I can see how much faith you have in me

[PuRock]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1311693563' post='715106']
I'm kind of mad you thought I was being serious. lol. I can see how much faith you have in me
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In my head is I was thinking, c'mon lowrider? Owens in great shape? Now you've completely gone off the deep end.

Wacko: Disregard this conversation we are having. Owens at times last year was the best WR in the game. He should excel in 2011 since he's expected to have an impact right away.

[Ed_Reed20]

How do people feel about Titans TE Jared Cook this year? He's the most talented offensive player Tennessee has after Johnson and Britt, and even though owning two TEs in a 12-team league seems unnecessary, his upside is intriguing.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1311694176' post='715130']
How do people feel about Titans TE Jared Cook this year? He's the most talented offensive player Tennessee has after Johnson and Britt, and even though owning two TEs in a 12-team league seems unnecessary, his upside is intriguing.
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I mean he is worth a backup TE spot in my book. Especially since it looks like Hasselback got a big contract offer from the Titans

Edit: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/519/matt-hasselbeck

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1311694384' post='715140']
I mean he is worth a backup TE spot in my book. Especially since it looks like Hasselback got a big contract offer from the Titans

Edit: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/519/matt-hasselbeck
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I'm actually hoping the Titans land Hasselbeck.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1311694933' post='715164']
I'm actually hoping the Titans land Hasselbeck.
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Any particular reason why? I hate the Seahawks for some unknown reason (you ever just have those teams you hate for no reason?) and my good friend is a Titans fan so I hope so too.

[PuRock]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1311694384' post='715140']
I mean he is worth a backup TE spot in my book. Especially since it looks like Hasselback got a big contract offer from the Titans

Edit: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/519/matt-hasselbeck
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His brother Tim commented somewhere that the front runner is San Fran. We shall see.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1311695304' post='715189']
[b]Any particular reason why?[/b] I hate the Seahawks for some unknown reason (you ever just have those teams you hate for no reason?) and my good friend is a Titans fan so I hope so too.
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It would raise the ceilings of CJ, Britt, and Cook somewhat(all players I'm targeting).

[Wacko4Zacko]

Well any Seahawks receiver value just went down.