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Steve Smith Wants to be a Raven

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/17/carolinas-steve-smith-trade-teams-of-choice-baltimore-san-diego/
just seen this article on profootballtalk.com. i dont see it happening because the salary cap being lowered and we already have mase boldin and torrey smith. If he wants to come for a cheap price though im for it highly unlikely.
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No surprise there, but he just doesn't seem like a good fit for either team (Chargers or Ravens). He is a good player though, and I am sure he still has gas left in the tank. He'll land on his feet, and then we'll have to worry about playing against the guy.
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Wait a minute... all I kept hearing last year is the receivers aren't good enough. Flacco needs a deep threat. Flacco needs a deep threat!

I mean, are y'all so convinced that Torrey Smith is the only deep threat the Ravens need? He hasn't exactly done anything in the NFL... and he hasn't even had a full offseason to get as up-to-speed as a rookie usually is.

I mean, Steve Smith has at least proven he can be a deep threat on the NFL level. He absolutely torched the Ravens a couple years back. And that was with freaking... Jake Delhomme at QB.

On a team that has the talent the Ravens do, with the best QB he's probably ever caught passes from(yes, I'm complimenting Flacco here... or at least really dismissing the QB's Smith has played with in Carolina) I have to believe he could definitely help the Ravens offense.

Of course, he's got to be willing to take a small contract. It really depends how much he wants to win as opposed to how much he wants to make.
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1310922705' post='708629']
Wait a minute... all I kept hearing last year is the receivers aren't good enough. Flacco needs a deep threat. Flacco needs a deep threat!

I mean, are y'all so convinced that Torrey Smith is the only deep threat the Ravens need? He hasn't exactly done anything in the NFL... and he hasn't even had a full offseason to get as up-to-speed as a rookie usually is.

I mean, Steve Smith has at least proven he can be a deep threat on the NFL level. He absolutely torched the Ravens a couple years back. And that was with freaking... Jake Delhomme at QB.

On a team that has the talent the Ravens do, with the best QB he's probably ever caught passes from(yes, I'm complimenting Flacco here... [b]or at least really dismissing the QB's Smith has played with in Carolina[/b]) I have to believe he could definitely help the Ravens offense.

Of course, he's got to be willing to take a small contract. It really depends how much he wants to win as opposed to how much he wants to make.
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This is what you're really saying....
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[quote name='BohBalmerOsbohs' timestamp='1310923320' post='708632']
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Haha agreed
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1310922705' post='708629']
Wait a minute... all I kept hearing last year is the receivers aren't good enough. Flacco needs a deep threat. Flacco needs a deep threat!

I mean, are y'all so convinced that Torrey Smith is the only deep threat the Ravens need? He hasn't exactly done anything in the NFL... and he hasn't even had a full offseason to get as up-to-speed as a rookie usually is.

I mean, Steve Smith has at least proven he can be a deep threat on the NFL level. He absolutely torched the Ravens a couple years back. And that was with freaking... Jake Delhomme at QB.

On a team that has the talent the Ravens do, with the best QB he's probably ever caught passes from(yes, I'm complimenting Flacco here... or at least really dismissing the QB's Smith has played with in Carolina) I have to believe he could definitely help the Ravens offense.

Of course, he's got to be willing to take a small contract. [b] It really depends how much he wants to win as opposed to how much he wants to make.[/b]
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Its this part right here that makes me hesitate. I would love to have Steve Smith, but we really cant afford his contract. We already have too many Free Agents that need to be signed. Bringing in another guy with a large contract will only make things worse. If he is willing to take a large pay-cut I would be all for it.
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Plus, what if Torey Smith were to get injured and this is a reason why I would want Stallworth to come back b/c if Torey were to go down, we would have a bunch of possession WR's and the opposing D's will do nothing but cheat up and clog the underneath stuff just like last season.
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Good deep threat for Rivers. VJax and Smith would be nice targets while gates is always an option as well.
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After news of the anticipated CBA and our cap situation, I have given up hopes of making less than essential upgrades (Nnamdi and Smith would fall into that category). Barring a trade, I think the biggest excitement we will have is seeing who exactly we decide to retain and who goes. We may grab a third tier type player who fills a need (think Corey Redding kinda guy), but that's about it.
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Not gonna happen unless he plays for a very small contract, kind of like Housh who was paid the veteran minimum last year. Besides, if we bring him in, it will only slow the process of integrating our youth at WR.
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This would be ridiculous, It would almost be to the point where I was mad at having more talent. We are heading in the right direction with our receiver's imo. We need to make them jump in with both feet and test the water's therefore they can severely reduce the learning curves for themselves. I think that WR's are the exact opposite of QB's the longer you keep them out the more you stunt their growth.
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Let me say this... As a guy that see Steve Smith every years.... This could be a very very very smart trade by you guys (2nd rounder..ok trade... 3rd rounder...GREAT TRADE) ... Steve Smith is as explosive and physical as it gets... If this was a couple years ago.. I would say dont do it because Smith was a (Get me the damn ball type guy) ... You wouldnt want Flacco to deal with that... Ive seen dude have some sideline explosions/hit a couple of team mates in the face incidents...lol (he really broke a team mates nose..lol) .. Now Steve Smith just want to win... He doesnt care about being a #2 WR...

I think he will go to the Chargers but if you guys could get Smith for a 3rd round pick... I would seriously think about doing it
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It might b a smart move if ur thinking about the future.. Remember Mason contract is up after this year so we will still need another receiver opposite Q. Smith is a rookie so theres no need to put all ur Faith in a rookie. Steve Smith is already a deep threat so we kno what he can do. We do have a lot of receivers now, but when u look at the future it would be a smart move imo.. he can help Torrey and we would have two deep threat receiver and Q. He would b the perfect receiver to get n the steelers head when we play them because he likes to talk and he backs it up. I think he fits the play like a raven mentality Harbaugh has installed.
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If Steve Smith had made this statement three or four years ago then I would have been very excited. Steve Smith was one of the best WRs in the league then, and if he had wanted to play for the Ravens then Flacco would have been the first rookie QB to win a Super Bowl. That's the kind of difference maker he could have been. Can he still do that? Maybe, but he surely can't do it for much longer.
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[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1310924815' post='708648']
Plus, what if Torey Smith were to get injured and this is a reason why I would want Stallworth to come back b/c if Torey were to go down, we would have a bunch of possession WR's and the opposing D's will do nothing but cheat up and clog the underneath stuff just like last season.
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I hear ya, BUT

We do have David Reed too and he is fast, I think everyone really isnt thinking of D. Reed since the Draft because we got T. Smith. Im a fan of T.Smith but he is a Body Catcher which honestly kinds of scares me.
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Why would he want to come here?

Even after the anquan signing Baltimore is still proving to not be a great place for WRs...
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1310944344' post='708724']
Why would he want to come here?

Even after the anquan signing Baltimore is still proving to not be a great place for WRs...
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I was expecting this response...
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[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1310922705' post='708629']
Wait a minute... all I kept hearing last year is the receivers aren't good enough. Flacco needs a deep threat. Flacco needs a deep threat!

I mean, are y'all so convinced that Torrey Smith is the only deep threat the Ravens need? He hasn't exactly done anything in the NFL... and he hasn't even had a full offseason to get as up-to-speed as a rookie usually is.

I mean, Steve Smith has at least proven he can be a deep threat on the NFL level. He absolutely torched the Ravens a couple years back. And that was with freaking... Jake Delhomme at QB.

On a team that has the talent the Ravens do, with the best QB he's probably ever caught passes from(yes, I'm complimenting Flacco here... or at least really dismissing the QB's Smith has played with in Carolina) I have to believe he could definitely help the Ravens offense.

Of course, he's got to be willing to take a small contract. It really depends how much he wants to win as opposed to how much he wants to make.
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You are absolutely right, add to that torrey smith isn't any more of a "deep threat" than Mark Clayton or Demetrius Williams...he runs a slower 40 4.43, but good luck making those comments around the fanboys in here and not getting negative points
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1310945132' post='708731']
You are absolutely right, add to that torrey smith isn't any more of a "deep threat" than Mark Clayton or Demetrius Williams...he runs a slower 40 4.43, but good luck making those comments around the fanboys in here and not getting negative points
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He's a lot more elusive than the both of them, and even though the 40 time is slower, he is faster on the field. I don't think he's going to be a deep threat either, more of an underneath, YAC kind of WR, but in my opinion, he'll be better than the both of them. I don't want Steve Smith because I want our younger WR's to see action a lot sooner than our rookies have in the past.
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1310945132' post='708731']<br />You are absolutely right, add to that torrey smith isn't any more of a &quot;deep threat&quot; than Mark Clayton or Demetrius Williams...he runs a slower 40 4.43, but good luck making those comments around the fanboys in here and not getting negative points<br />[/quote]


dude, I'm not a huge Torrey fan, but let the guy hit the field before we make any definite statements about him. He's not likely to be any worse than Clayton or Williams, but he could turn out to be a lot better. At worst, he'll give us another great returner to go with David Reed, so he already is ahead of the game if you compare him to those two.
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[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1310944571' post='708727']
Did I lie?
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Wasn't commenting on whether you were lying or not, just a negative response that isn't shocking to me....just funny is all!
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I think considering what has been going on with the lockout and the training camps slapped together by the players this offseason, it'd be a very good idea to bring in Smith to cement the number 2/3 WR so the rookies coming in can really acclimate to playing at an NFL level after a very unstructured offseason.

Now I could always be proven wrong on this, but I dont expect any of our drafted wideouts to produce enough to take us any further than where we've gotten before. I find it hard to believe Torrey Smith will be the game changer on offense, sorry. Mason isn't coming back next year, Ray Lewis, and Ed Reed are up in the air for the past few years...so why not gear for a serious run and take some burden off of these rookies that haven't seen legitimate training camps all off season and bring in Steve Smith?

I'll agree, he has to come cheap. I wouldn't want to trade away or pay too much for him, but considering the conditions he's been in at Carolina he'd be happy to take a cut to be on a team so full of promise and in position to make a legitimate run. Im also not really gonna listen to talk about how often he gets hurt....wasn't that the exact same thing everyone was saying about Boldin?
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Is it just me or are there others that think, maybe, just maybe he did not run as fast as possible at the combine. There have been several reports that says he has ran in the 4.3's and that he plays faster than the time indicates. I don't know if we can accurately judge him from 2 run's at the combine.

I mean Aso ran a 4.5 but he has no problem going downfield with some of the quickest guys in the league.

Now if we were going to get a true burner well the fastest the combine had to offer was a 4.37. 2 people ran that one was that edmonds guy and the other was Ricardo Lockette. Well one is still available if we can get a CBA done and he is huge. Either way it goes when you think of burner you usually look for a little faster than that.

What I do like though is that next year we really dont have a lot of holes to fill unless we lose a good amount of free agent's. I wold like McDaniel, and O'dowd from the UDFA pool and see how they pan out. If they do then next year we have ILB, maybe another tackle, and then we can just go for whatever we feel like, and if there is a guy faster who may be a project than so be it.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1310945906' post='708738']
Wasn't commenting on whether you were lying or not, just a negative response that isn't shocking to me....just funny is all!
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Oh ok...

At least we know I was being truthful
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I really do not see the upside to bring in Steve Smith. I also agree we should give our guys we have right now a shot and build a team around that. Stop trying to bring in veteran wide receivers on the down side of their careers and force them into the system. We have most of the pieces to a championship team right not on this roster. Let us resign Yanda and one of our CB’s then go after a Pass rusher with the money we save from not picking up Steve Smith.
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