Ravens' Forum - Top 10 In The NFL List

[ellicottraven]

This is a knee jerk reaction to the asinine list that ESPN came up with. Please give your unbiased Top 10 list of current players in the NFL. Feel free to add any comment to defend your selection....

Here is my top 10 list:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Ed Reed
3. Tom Brady
4. Haloti Ngata
5. Polamalu
6. Darelle Revis
7. Andre Johnson
8. Adrian Peterson
9. Patrick Willis
10. Aaron Rodgers

Honorable Mention: Clay Mathews, Ray Lewis, Namdi Asamugha, DeMarcus Ware and Julius Peppers...


If he was in a different scheme, Polamalu would not have made it into my top 10 or even honorable mention roll. However, Ed Reed would be #2 regardless of the scheme he played in!

This was difficult on me because my bias was to put Ray into my top 10, but just could not on current level of play. Sorry Ravens fans!

[stm85]

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Haloti Ngata
4. Demarcus Ware
5. Darrelle Revis
6. Aaron Rodgers
7. Ed Reed
8. Patrick Willis
9. Troy Polamalu
10. Adrian Peterson

Honorable Mentions: Drew Brees, Nnamdi Asomugha, Phillip Rivers, Clay Matthews, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Jared Allen

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='stm85' timestamp='1309371097' post='702211']
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Haloti Ngata
4. Demarcus Ware
5. Darrelle Revis
6. Aaron Rodgers
7. Ed Reed
8. Patrick Willis
9. Troy Polamalu
10. Adrian Peterson

Honorable Mentions: Drew Brees, Nnamdi Asomugha, Phillip Rivers, Clay Matthews, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Jared Allen
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pretty good list! : 2 Forum - 0 ESPN!

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Troy Polamalu
4. DeMarcus Ware
5. Ed Reed
6. Darrelle Revis
7. Andre Johnson
8. Adrian Peterson
9. Haloti Ngata
10. James Harrison

Just missed the cut: Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Nnamdi Asomugha.

DEFINITELY DIDN'T JUST MISS THE CUT: Matt Ryan.

[Ravens Beast]

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Ed Reed
4. Troy Polamalu
5. Haloti Ngata
6. Adrian Peterson
7. Andre Johnson
8. Demarcus Ware
9. Darrelle Revis
10. Aaron Rodgers


Missed the Cut- Nnamdi, Fitz, Calvin Johnson, Drew Brees, and Patrick Willis.


Matt Ryan- 43rd best

[Milton145]

Might catch some flak for this but:

1. Darrelle Revis
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady
4. Demarcus Ware
5. Haloti Ngata
6. Andre Johnson
7. Adrian Peterson
8. Ed Reed
9. Chris Johnson
10. Clay Matthews (Thought about putting Patrick Willis here but I'd be acting as a bandwagoner since I don't watch much of the 49ers. So I went with Clay instead)

[grape drank]

Peyton Manning #1? Didn't follow him too much this year but last time I checked he was throwing 4 INT's a game on more than 1 occasion.

[Milton145]

[quote name='grape drank' timestamp='1309379708' post='702285']
Peyton Manning #1? Didn't follow him too much this year but last time I checked he was throwing 4 INT's a game on more than 1 occasion.
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In this era, Peyton Manning will always be the Michael Jordan when discussing QBs (though without the rings) simply because of what he's done the past decade. Tom Brady does have the rings but Peyton Manning has more MVPs which is an individual honor over Tom Brady who only has 2. Brady is deserving of being Number 1, but Peyton could easily be one as well.

And despite all the INTs, he still put up a monster numbers with 4,700 passing yards and 33 TDs.

[theFRANCHISE]

1) Drew Brees
2) Tom Brady
3) Peyton Manning
4) Haloti Ngata
5) Andre Johnson
6) Aaron Rodgers
7) Nnamdi Asomugha
8) Clay Matthews
9) Ed Reed
10) Troy Polamalu

My logic behind Brees at #1 is that he has singlehandedly carried his offense, the success of the team often hinges upon his individual success, and he inspires his team much in the same way as Ray Lewis with the Ravens. While you could argue these same reasons for Peyton Manning, his string of erratic performances in the middle of last season was the reason why he's not #1 over Brees or Brady, and was ultimately the difference between himself and Brees. Brady gets the #2 spot simply because he has showed no clear signs of age and has continued to play well, but could not will his team to victory as consistently as he has in the past.

[Gordo52]

1)Ray Lewis
2)Ed Reed
3)Haloti Ngata
4)Nnamdi Asomough
5)Ray Rice
6)Joe Flacco
7)Terrell Suggs
8)Anquan Boldin
9)LeRon McClain
10)Marshall Yanda

[bdravens]

1)Troy Smith
2)Marc Bulger
3)Tyrod Taylor
4)Nnamdi Asomugha
...that's it actually.

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1309373170' post='702227']
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Troy Polamalu
4. DeMarcus Ware
5. Ed Reed
6. Darrelle Revis
7. Andre Johnson
8. Adrian Peterson
9. Haloti Ngata
10. James Harrison

Just missed the cut: Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Nnamdi Asomugha.

DEFINITELY DIDN'T JUST MISS THE CUT: Matt Ryan.
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Ha Ha! 10-4 on Matt Ryan! Easily the most over-rated QB in the league...

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1309386756' post='702346']
1)Ray Lewis
2)Ed Reed
3)Haloti Ngata
4)Nnamdi Asomough
5)Ray Rice
6)Joe Flacco
7)Terrell Suggs
8)Anquan Boldin
9)LeRon McClain
10)Marshall Yanda
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That is excessive love your own kind!!!

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1309383049' post='702309']
1) Drew Brees
2) Tom Brady
3) Peyton Manning
4) Haloti Ngata
5) Andre Johnson
6) Aaron Rodgers
7) Nnamdi Asomugha
8) Clay Matthews
9) Ed Reed
10) Troy Polamalu

My logic behind Brees at #1 is that he has singlehandedly carried his offense, the success of the team often hinges upon his individual success, and he inspires his team much in the same way as Ray Lewis with the Ravens. While you could argue these same reasons for Peyton Manning, his string of erratic performances in the middle of last season was the reason why he's not #1 over Brees or Brady, and was ultimately the difference between himself and Brees. Brady gets the #2 spot simply because he has showed no clear signs of age and has continued to play well, but could not will his team to victory as consistently as he has in the past.
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I like your logic, but by extension of the same logic, shouldn't Aaron Rodgers be rated higher than Brees? The Packers were a wild card team that literally lucked into the playoffs. He single handedly made them SB champs did he not?

[flynismo]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1309386756' post='702346']
1)Ray Lewis
2)Ed Reed
3)Haloti Ngata
4)Nnamdi Asomough
5)Ray Rice
6)Joe Flacco
7)Terrell Suggs
8)Anquan Boldin
9)LeRon McClain
10)Marshall Yanda
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I get the feeling that Oher and Heap have a few choice words for you.
Other than that, great list

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1309403254' post='702476']
I like your logic, but by extension of the same logic, shouldn't Aaron Rodgers be rated higher than Brees? The Packers were a wild card team that literally lucked into the playoffs. [b]He single handedly made them SB champs did he not?[/b]
[/quote]

Not really. He played some amazing ball but Green Bay's run to a championship was very team-orientated. It always is.

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1309403541' post='702483']
Not really. He played some amazing ball but Green Bay's run to a championship was very team-orientated. It always is.
[/quote]


Well Ed_Reed20, let us agree to disagree... I do think the Saints are pretty team oriented as well.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1309402989' post='702473']
That is excessive love your own kind!!!
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what can i say lol

[Gordo52]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1309403516' post='702482']
I get the feeling that Oher and Heap have a few choice words for you.
Other than that, great list
[/quote]
11)Oher
12)Heap

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1309403254' post='702476']
I like your logic, but by extension of the same logic, shouldn't Aaron Rodgers be rated higher than Brees? The Packers were a wild card team that literally lucked into the playoffs. He single handedly made them SB champs did he not?
[/quote]
The Packers played well without Aaron Rodgers when he was lost to a concussion. Also, as ER20 noted, the Packers have always been more team-oriented than most of the league. The Packers have Clay Matthews on the other side of the ball, after all. No one else outside of my Top 3 has truly willed their teams to victory on a consistent basis over the past 3 years.

While arguments could be made for Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, and Troy Polamalu (among others) who've willed their teams to victory, none have done it on as regular of a basis as Brees/Brady/Manning over that span. In the case of Reed/Lewis/Polamalu, the Ravens and Steelers had been competitive in enough games to where they weren't often in a position where they needed be willed to victory -- at least not as much as in years past.

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1309407439' post='702507']
The Packers played well without Aaron Rodgers when he was lost to a concussion. Also, as ER20 noted, the Packers have always been more team-oriented than most of the league. The Packers have Clay Matthews on the other side of the ball, after all. No one else outside of my Top 3 has truly willed their teams to victory on a consistent basis over the past 3 years.

While arguments could be made for Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, and Troy Polamalu (among others) who've willed their teams to victory, none have done it on as regular of a basis as Brees/Brady/Manning over that span. In the case of Reed/Lewis/Polamalu, the Ravens and Steelers had been competitive in enough games to where they weren't often in a position where they needed be willed to victory -- at least not as much as in years past.
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Okay. Very well constructed line of reasoning.

[gabefergy]

My top 10:

1) Peyton Manning
2) Tom Brady
3) Aaron Rodgers
4) Drew Brees
5) Adrian Peterson
6) Darrelle Revis
7) Andre Johnson
8) Haloti Ngata
9) Demarcus Ware
10) Troy Polamalu

People forget how banged up the Colts were last year, but Peyton still led them to the playoffs...again. Even though his numbers weren't as good he gets the edge over Brady because I think Brady's success is at least partially due to the genius of Bill Belichick. Peyton does it all on his own...the Colts would be mediocre at best without Manning.

[Militant X 1]

waiting to see the top 10 this sunday!

~Mili

[Corvus]

Based more on their 2010 performances not their entire careers:

1 Aaron Rodgers
2 Tom Brady
3 Peyton Manning
4 Ed Reed
5 Drew Brees
6 Darelle Revis
7 Andre Johnson
8 Adrian Peterson
9 Troy Polamalu
10 Demarcus Ware

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Corvus' timestamp='1309465703' post='702759']
Based more on their 2010 performances not their entire careers:

1 Aaron Rodgers
2 Tom Brady
3 Peyton Manning
4 Ed Reed
5 Drew Brees
6 Darelle Revis
7 Andre Johnson
8 Adrian Peterson
9 Troy Polamalu
10 Demarcus Ware
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The Packers (the team, not Rodgers) won the SB. Bradys individual performance outshined Rodgers.

Other than that, good list

[RavensWin2052]

1 Peyton Manning
2 Ed Reed
3 Tom Brady
4 Troy Polamalu
5 Aaron Rodgers
6 Andre Johnson
7 Adrian Peterson
8 Julius Peppers
9 Ray Lewis
10 Patrick Willis

almost made it- demarcus ware, namdi asamugha,halodi ngata, larry fitzgerald, and clay matthews

[1/28/01]

[quote name='RavensWin2052' timestamp='1309472592' post='702813']
1 Peyton Manning
2 Ed Reed
3 Tom Brady
4 Troy Polamalu
5 Aaron Rodgers
6 Andre Johnson
7 Adrian Peterson
8 Julius Peppers
9 Ray Lewis
10 Patrick Willis

almost made it- demarcus ware, [b]namdi asamugha,halodi ngata,[/b] larry fitzgerald, and clay matthews
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Who are these guys?

[The King]

My list is entirely based on players as they are right now, with less regard to a career-long body of work.

1)Haloti Ngata
2)Aaron Rodgers
3)Nnamdi Asomugha
4)Antonio Gates
5)Adrian Peterson
6)Demarcus Ware
7)Tom Brady
8)Ed Reed
9)Chris Johnson
10)Andre Johnson

Rodgers was a machine last year, but I honestly believe that no player in the NFL is better at their job than Haloti Ngata. Rodger's performance in the playoffs was almost enough for him to take over the number one spot. A lot of my list was based on who I though was the best at a position, and by how much. I don't think any player dominates their position harder than Antonio Gates, but his injuries last year prevent him from rising above number four. Reed is hurt the same way.

[sliceanddic3]

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Andre Johnson
4. Ed Reed
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Derrelle Revis
7. Clay Matthews
8. Nnamdi Asomugha
9. Troy Polamalu
10. Patrick Willis

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='sliceanddic3' timestamp='1309622950' post='703186']
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Andre Johnson
4. Ed Reed
5. Aaron Rodgers
6. Derrelle Revis
7. Clay Matthews
8. Nnamdi Asomugha
9. Troy Polamalu
10. Patrick Willis
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Nice list but I am not sure about Mathews before Patrick Willis... I would put in DeMarcus Ware in Mathews place perhaps if you wanted a pass rusher or really Ngata would be perfect in the top 10!