Bold Predictions - Sergio Kindle

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1308782748' post='699900']
I give JJ credit where he is due, but part of the reason he started so much is because we didn't have anyone behind him. Now that we have Kindle, he won't have to be out there hurt. So are the Ravens going to keep an overworked, possibly injured JJ out there because he's done it before?
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That still goes to the point that Kindle will have to prove worthy. I'm not saying you're wrong. Because if Kindle proves to be the better option, with or without injury he'll probably take over for JJ.

However if Kindle struggles to pick up the defense, if he struggles in pass coverage, the Ravens aren't just gonna throw him out there to start, just because he was drafted to take over that position.

If JJ is healthy enough to play, he'll probably start, unless Kindle just takes that spot outright by mid season or so.

Kindle will see a lot of snaps, and even more if JJ gets banged up. However if Kindle doesn't prove he's ready to be a 3 down OLB, then he won't be starting, he'll just be subbing for JJ a lot. But if Kindle proves he can handle being a 3 down OLB, then he'll get the start in games, but it won't be because of injury. It'll be because he's the future of that position.

[Knight of God]

I think Kindle can and will do more than that. He will be a big time play maker for the Ravens.

[TreTheRaven]

Baltimore sweeps Pittsburgh this season.

Sorry, just noticed this is for Kindle.

Kindle has 6 sacks this year.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1308699774' post='699528']
Well then, I suppose it's a good thing that Kindle may be even better against the run than he is a pass rusher, else he would not be starting for us.

Other than coverage skills and experience, JJ has nothing on Kindle ... don't get too used to calling JJ our starting OLB
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Since when is Kindle a better run stopper than JJ? I'm not sure he's going to step in day one and show us that he's better than JJ, except for in the pass rushing department.

[The Raven]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1309051669' post='700910']
Since when is Kindle a better run stopper than JJ? I'm not sure he's going to step in day one and show us that he's better than JJ, except for in the pass rushing department.
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Like i mentioned before, he's very under-rated at stuffing the run. He was exceptional at it in college. I'd like to think 31 TFLs in two seasons is exceptional.

I found something interesting in his stats, apparent;y his senior year he only recorded three sacks, but had 31 QB hurries. Thats crazy.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

Kindle is going to be an absolute monster. If Pagano can get this kids head right, and show him how to operate a light switch then we are going to be set. The only thing this kid needs is to learn how to drop back in coverage and he will be starting. him starting would be awesome because if he is in their every down then it will actually be a surprise when we blitz him.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1309056656' post='700937']
Kindle is going to be an absolute monster. If Pagano can get this kids head right, and show him how to operate a light switch then we are going to be set. [b] The only thing this kid needs is to learn how to drop back in coverage[/b] and he will be starting. him starting would be awesome because if he is in their every down then it will actually be a surprise when we blitz him.
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Depending on how the Ravens plan on using him, that might not be a necessity. I read how in 1,000 snaps last season DeMarcus Ware dropped back into coverage a total of 6 times.

If he's as special as many of us think he'll be, he could possible be the type of player that attacks the line of scrimmage 90% of the time. While Suggs is more of that complete OLB who rushes the majority of the time, but also drops into coverage as needed.

[wayne]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1309058269' post='700945']
Depending on how the Ravens plan on using him, that might not be a necessity. I read how in 1,000 snaps last season DeMarcus Ware dropped back into coverage a total of 6 times.

If he's as special as many of us think he'll be, he could possible be the type of player that attacks the line of scrimmage 90% of the time. While Suggs is more of that complete OLB who rushes the majority of the time, but also drops into coverage as needed.
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The D would be a lot better/flexible for both OLB's to be able to drop back at any given snap. Part of the reason the Cowboys D under Phillips started to decline was b/c of the predictablity of his scheme. Most of the time it was a given that he rushed both OLB's and I remember the Giants started putting their TE's out wide knowing that either one of the MLB's or SS was going to have to cover him therefore spreading the D out taking away any disguise as far as who was rushing the QB. I hope Kindle only learning curve would be dropping back in zone coverage which is the least of my concerns of what I'm expecting from an OLB.

[flynismo]

,[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1309056339' post='700935']<br />Like i mentioned before, he's very under-rated at stuffing the run. He was exceptional at it in college. I'd like to think 31 TFLs in two seasons is exceptional.<br /><br />I found something interesting in his stats, apparent;y his senior year he only recorded three sacks, but had 31 QB hurries.  Thats crazy.<br />[/quote]


finally, someone else who knows what Kindle brings to the table. I think I can count on one hand how many people really know how special this kid is.,,,,

[flynismo]

,[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1309051669' post='700910']<br />Since when is Kindle a better run stopper than JJ?  I'm not sure he's going to step in day one and show us that he's better than JJ, except for in the pass rushing department.<br />[/quote]


sit back and watch. You'll see.,,,,

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1309058778' post='700947']
The D would be a lot better/flexible for both OLB's to be able to drop back at any given snap. Part of the reason the Cowboys D under Phillips started to decline was b/c of the predictablity of his scheme. Most of the time it was a given that he rushed both OLB's and I remember the Giants started putting their TE's out wide knowing that either one of the MLB's or SS was going to have to cover him therefore spreading the D out taking away any disguise as far as who was rushing the QB. I hope Kindle only learning curve would be dropping back in zone coverage which is the least of my concerns of what I'm expecting from an OLB.
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oh no doubt about that, however, what my point was Kindle doesn't have to excel in pass coverage. I'm not saying he should be used like Ware or any other OLB.

But if he's a really special pass rusher, then the Ravens will be able to move him around to create mismatches, and him dropping won't be as important as other OLBs. Much like Clay Matthews.

The example you gave is valid, but every team won't be able to attack them that way. It's like the Steelers. 85% of the times both of their OLBs are coming after your QB. However only Brady, and now maybe Rodgers, have been able to have a high level of success against that defense. You always here fans say, the key to beating the Steelers defense is to spread them out, but how many offenses have been able to do that on a consistent basis, other then the Patriots?

Even though there are a lot of 3-4 defenses in the NFL, every defense is run differently. Would it be best for our defense to have both OLBs be complete Linebackers and be able to play the run, drop, and pass rush? of course. However my point was, Kindle won't necessarily have to be a great pass defender to be the play we want him to be.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1309060396' post='700955']
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finally, someone else who knows what Kindle brings to the table. I think I can count on one hand how many people really know how special this kid is.,,,,
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I think Kindle's biggest issue will be getting the confidence back in his abilities. Once he does that, whether it's in training camp, preseason, or during the season, remains to be seen. However I think once he gets that feel of, I've overcome my injury, and I can dominate in the NFL, like I did at Texas, he'll start to showcase his full potential.