Lamarr Woodley Quote

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1307730083' post='695407']
Reality Check for Woodley:

[b]1. If Cam doesn't get conservative and keeps scoring points, Ravens beat the Steelers in the Divisional Round and host the AFC Title Game.[/b]

2. Joe Flacco has done something Ben can NEVER say, Joe has led the Ravens to the Playoffs in every year he has been in the NFL, and it will be 4 straight this season.

3. If the Steelers let Ike Taylor go, it won't matter what he does in Week 1 because their secondary be will be even more vulnerable and it could get worst than what Tom Brady & Aaron Rodgers did to the Steelers defense last year.

[b]4. To think Ben has led the Steelers to the Super Bowl is an under statement, it all has been the Steelers defense so that's another thing Joe has done that Ben hasn't. At least Joe has been able to lead the Ravens to the playoffs and playoff victories by himself.[/b]
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Conservatism wasn't why the offense only scored 3 points in the second half.

Don't be a homer. Joe has had the luxury of a good defense his entire career as well. And Ben has routinely made plays in big situations to help his team win.

[JohnJohnson]

The fact that the Steelers have owned the Ravens recently is not the point. Woodley is acting like the Steelers will ALWAYS be there to beat the Ravens in the playoffs, which is just stupid. As I said earlier, they weren't there in 2000. They weren't there in 2009, the Colts ended it for us (they're as likely to stand in our way as the Steelers are when it comes to playoff games, more likely in fact since they are in a different division). Also, it's just an arrogant, obnoxious thing to say, especially about a young QB like Joe who is nothing but respectful to fellow NFL players. Even Big Ben says Joe is a great player, he'll have his time, etc. Look for Joe to start putting his own imprint on this great rivalry, it's a little tough coming into the best rivalry in the NFL and playing them 8 times in your first 3 seasons. Could Big Ben have done more than Joe did in his first 3 years, with a team like the Steelers in his way?

[ooo sugahhh 52]

well i really didnt expect him to say a division rival would win a superbowl but the way he said it makes him come off as arrogant and pretentious but saying larry foote is a top ten linebacker just makes him look stupid

[big hits and ball hawks]

When I first heard Woodley say what he did about Flacco, I'm not gonna lie, I got irritated. Honestly, I couldn't care less whether or not he can back it up, but now it's just got me pumped for week one. I can't wait to hear him get those extra boos.

[RavensAllTheWay]

Steelers only own us when Ben plays.....just throwing that out there.

[atljbo]

I dont get why some are calling Woodley arrogant or stupid.... I dont care about the Larry Foote thing... EVERY guy look out for their team mates ... right or wrong... No way in the world foot is in the convo but the guy is looking out for his guys.

I would be more pumped then pissed... rather you like his statement or not ... He honestly feel that way.... Itsjust like when the Pats felt like they owned the Colts... The Patriots players used to say it all the time.

You fix that statement by hitting them in the mouth (beat them with Big Ben).


What was funny is all the love he gave Colt McCoy

[Ravenseconbeast]

Talk aout spitting on someone's face. James Walker also thought it was funny. He made a poll included in espn blog where he gives you the option of "Flacco will win SB (only if Big Ben retires).

[3-4ravdef509]

[quote] Manning led the Colts to a 29–17 victory over the Chicago Bears in Super Bowl XLI and was voted Super Bowl MVP. Manning, who had been criticized for failing to win big games, exorcised his big-game demons with the win. "In years' past when our team's come up short, it's been disappointing," he told reporters. "Somehow we found a way to have learned from some of those losses and we've been a better team because of it." [/quote]

That's from good old Wiki.

And it should prove the point that no one year will be Flacco's make it or break it year. He has along career ahead of him. One of the best quarterbacks of all time took a long time to find his own, and consistently lost to teams like the Patriots. But he found a way to win when it mattered in 2006. Flacco will beat Steelers, and will win a Superbowl. And like Joe Namath, I'll even guarantee it.

*patiently waits for the haters to neg and bash this comment*

[3-4ravdef509]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1307730974' post='695418']
Conservatism wasn't why the offense only scored 3 points in the second half.

Don't be a homer. [b]Joe has had the luxury of a mediocre defense that lives off its reputation his entire career as well. And Ben has routinely made plays in big situations to help his team win (and unlike Joe's attempts for big plays, Ben's receivers catch the balls he throws).[/b][/quote]

Fixed.

Our defense hasn't been good since 2008. Even then it wasn't spectacular. Name one good offensive team besides maybe the Saints that our defense held in check?

[BloodRaven]

What an classless idiot. NOBODY wins every single time.

[BmoreRaised]

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1307772062' post='695697']
Fixed.

Our defense hasn't been good since 2008. Even then it wasn't spectacular. Name one good offensive team besides maybe the Saints that our defense held in check?
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lol,mediocre? as far as defense is concerned,I don't care about any other stat besides points per game and we seem to always be ranked highly in that regard.We were 3rd in the NFL in points per game?We might not have the same Defense as we did in 2k,but we're far from a mediocre defense

Patriots to 23 points ,compared to the normal 32 per game is pretty much in check(we lost,I know,no need to even mention)

we held the Jets to what? 9 points? thats pretty much held in check.

Chiefs to 7 points

in the regular season the steelers scored what 10 and 13 points in those two games? you act like our defense was atrocious

[3-4ravdef509]

[quote name='BmoreRaised' timestamp='1307779755' post='695706']
lol,mediocre? as far as defense is concerned,I don't care about any other stat besides points per game and we seem to always be ranked highly in that regard.We were 3rd in the NFL in points per game?We might not have the same Defense as we did in 2k,but we're far from a mediocre defense

Patriots to 23 points ,compared to the normal 32 per game is pretty much in check(we lost,I know,no need to even mention)

we held the Jets to what? 9 points? thats pretty much held in check.

Chiefs to 7 points

in the regular season the steelers scored what 10 and 13 points in those two games? you act like our defense was atrocious
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No, I didn't say atrocious did I? I said mediocre. We buff up the stats by picking on bad teams. Letting the bills score 30 points, Atlanta walked all over us, Patiots killed us in the 4th quarter, Hillis stomped us, even the Panthers scored that huge touchdown on us, the Texans lit us up in the second half, and I think most people would agree that our defense is not great. We're good, but we are over hyped due to our reputation and having stars like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Ngata, Suggs, etc.
Jets nor the Steelers have great offenses either I have to say. Chiefs was a good showing, but we did injure their best player. The point is Flacco is not scoring 10 or 13 points a game and letting the defense do the work like Ed_Reed20 was saying. Dilfer had the Luxary. Because the Ravens have a good defense though, no one wished to give Flacco credit for the things he has done, which is wrong. Our defense helps to win games just as much as Flacco does. Without Flacco, we don't win against the Steelers the first time, or the Jets, or the Chiefs, and many other games. He doesn't shred apart defenses, but is that his fault? He had Boldin, who is great but was used inproperly. Mason was effective usually, but he is slow, just as TJ is slow, and dropped many easy balls. Our line wasn't good as in years past, and the running game was usually pathetic. Our offense was supposedly more stacked last year, but signing a lot of big names doens't get the job done. We didn't have weapons that complimented Flacco or our offensive system. Granted, Cam should have adjusted, and Flacco could have made a bigger point as a leader to try and fix this problem. But It's unfair to expect him to be Superman after 3 years. He's not perfect, in fact he has has a couple of major flaws and I've admitted that many times. But I am sick of people saying this guy is mediocre and dull. Anyone who doesn't see that this guy has a ceiling that is crazy high isn't looking. And people don't realize that with the runing game not getting the job done last year, Flacco essentially became our offense at certain points last year. Stop generalizing everything you see and look at the facts. Without Flacco this team would not have made the playoffs three years in a row. Plain and simple. If Manning can be called elite and greatest of all time after choking in so many big games in his career before winning it all, why does Flacco get crucified for losing to the Steelers when he's in his 3rd year with an inefficient offensive system to get the job done, and a GOOD, not great defense. It is not his sole fault he lost to them last year. He does need to work on a couple of things, but those mistakes alone have never cost us a game against them.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1307799123' post='695723']
No, I didn't say atrocious did I? I said mediocre. We buff up the stats by picking on bad teams. Letting the bills score 30 points, Atlanta walked all over us, Patiots killed us in the 4th quarter, Hillis stomped us, even the Panthers scored that huge touchdown on us, the Texans lit us up in the second half, and I think most people would agree that our defense is not great. We're good, but we are over hyped due to our reputation and having stars like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Ngata, Suggs, etc.
Jets nor the Steelers have great offenses either I have to say. Chiefs was a good showing, but we did injure their best player. The point is Flacco is not scoring 10 or 13 points a game and letting the defense do the work like Ed_Reed20 was saying. Dilfer had the Luxary. Because the Ravens have a good defense though, no one wished to give Flacco credit for the things he has done, which is wrong. Our defense helps to win games just as much as Flacco does. Without Flacco, we don't win against the Steelers the first time, or the Jets, or the Chiefs, and many other games. He doesn't shred apart defenses, but is that his fault? He had Boldin, who is great but was used inproperly. Mason was effective usually, but he is slow, just as TJ is slow, and dropped many easy balls. Our line wasn't good as in years past, and the running game was usually pathetic. Our offense was supposedly more stacked last year, but signing a lot of big names doens't get the job done. We didn't have weapons that complimented Flacco or our offensive system. Granted, Cam should have adjusted, and Flacco could have made a bigger point as a leader to try and fix this problem. But It's unfair to expect him to be Superman after 3 years. He's not perfect, in fact he has has a couple of major flaws and I've admitted that many times. But I am sick of people saying this guy is mediocre and dull. Anyone who doesn't see that this guy has a ceiling that is crazy high isn't looking. And people don't realize that with the runing game not getting the job done last year, Flacco essentially became our offense at certain points last year. Stop generalizing everything you see and look at the facts. Without Flacco this team would not have made the playoffs three years in a row. Plain and simple. If Manning can be called elite and greatest of all time after choking in so many big games in his career before winning it all, why does Flacco get crucified for losing to the Steelers when he's in his 3rd year with an inefficient offensive system to get the job done, and a GOOD, not great defense. It is not his sole fault he lost to them last year. He does need to work on a couple of things, but those mistakes alone have never cost us a game against them.
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Great post. The only thing I would say is that you have marginally downplayed the strength of our defense. Granted, Hillis ran all over us once and the Bills game was a debacle because Washington gave up like 3 TDs. But Ryan passed all over us for only one half, the Texans game was only that way because the offense couldn't stay on the field, meaning that our defenders were completely gassed for the entire second half. Also, Schaub attempted like 60 passes that game so his yards/attempt weren't great.

Not to mention that there was next to no impact from our defensive rookies last year. This year we're likely to see impacts from Cody, Smith and hopefully Kindle. We are by no means on the down as much as many outsiders make out.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1307799123' post='695723']
The point is Flacco is not scoring 10 or 13 points a game and letting the defense do the work like Ed_Reed20 was saying.
[/quote]

That isn't what I said at all...

[quote name='3-4ravdef509' timestamp='1307772062' post='695697']
Fixed.

Our defense hasn't been good since 2008. Even then it wasn't spectacular. Name one good offensive team besides maybe the Saints that our defense held in check?
[/quote]

While Joe has been the victim of some horrible drops over the past few seasons(which people disregard when they talk his "record" against Pittsburgh), he's also made more mistakes than Ben.

The pass rush certainly hasn't been good in recent years but saying the good hasn't been "good since '08" is taking it too far. The D limited the Colts and Pats(twice) in '09 and you could argue they did it again to NE this past season. It was the offense that failed in those losses. Even against the Texans last season; had the offense actually been able to hold onto the ball for an extended period or two in the second half, I doubt the D would have been gashed the way were.

I'm not denying the D has dropped the ball at times during the Flacco era but there have been just as many, if not more situations where the offense failed.

[Ravens Lover]

My list is so long on reasons this team is number 32 on my favorite team list that I don't think I have space to write this one down

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Ravens Lover' timestamp='1307803097' post='695731']
My list is so long on reasons this team is number 32 on my favorite team list that I don't think I have space to wright this one down
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Anthony? (see who gets this....)

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1307804007' post='695733']
Anthony? (see who gets this....)
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What is Anthony Wright?

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1307805704' post='695738']
What is Anthony Wright?
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I'll take Creative Rebuttals To Spelling Mistakes for 800.

[lowrider]

Injuries can alter a year. So to think that the Steelers won't have an off year for the next decade is a bit of wishful thinking. Especially since Flacco in his fourth year will be a different qb. It's not like the Steelers beat us by much. Things might be different if Steve Johnson caught that pass against the Steelers and we got home field advantage for the playoffs. We will see this year

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1307805704' post='695738']
What is Anthony Wright?
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[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1307807394' post='695751']
I'll take Creative Rebuttals To Spelling Mistakes for 800.
[/quote]
Well played gentlemen ......

[Ravenslifer]

Woodley's confident, and his statement is an indication of current history, while a bit too arrogant. But, from what I've seen, every year for the last three we've gotten closer to beating the Steelers. We had them on the ropes in the divisional game, and should have won that game. I think if we had, we'd have played in the Superbowl. There's no reason to believe we can't be better next season. We just need to figure out how to close teams out, and we'll be fine.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1307712447' post='695199']
[b][/b]

Woodley is a little high on himself, a little high on his team for that fact. The Steelers aren't some unbeatable team, we had them beat ALL 3 times last year and let them off the hook by making mistakes, dropping balls, etc.

Sorry if this was posted already...I wanted to comment on the article but no comment section was up yet...which is annoying as crap.

Woodley only has a few good years left, Joe will be playing for the next 12-15 years or whatever, QBs last longer...cant wait to beat the Steelers and shut this fool up!!
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I don't understand what "had them beaten all 3 times last year" means. We did not. They got the W. Thats all that counts, not the stats not how close you thought it was, etc. And especially not against the steelers who have the most clutch qb in the game. Sometimes i think they don't mind keeping the game close on purpose because they know once they have the ball on the final drive they're going to win. The SB was a rare case, but as long as the steelers have ben the ravens have to figure out a way to score on the steelers defense so the game in out of reach for ben by the 4th qtr. And at the end of the day harbaugh has never beaten rothlisberger... heck i think billick only beat him once and it took bart scott knocking his lights out to get it done. Woodley is awfully cocky, but i think he has a right to be...the ravens steelers match up is always competitive...but its lopsided if you want to compare wins and losses.

[JohnJohnson]

No one argues that the Steelers have owned us recently. What astonishes me is that people act like Flacco and the Ravens were SUPPOSED to beat the Steelers in the playoff games. They had home field advantage. They had the better defense. They had the more experienced QB, by four years. Who honestly expects a first year or a third year QB to go into Heinz field and put the team on his back to beat the Steelers? I seriously doubt that Ben, in his first few years, could have done any better than Flacco has done given the situation he was in. Playing against the BEST team of the past 5-6 years 8 times in his first 3 seasons, against an older and more experienced QB (and also a badass who makes ridiculous plays against us), without a speedy receiver to stretch the field and let Flacco use his big arm.

The Steelers will not ALWAYS be in the playoffs, and even if they are they will not ALWAYS be the ones to stop the Ravens. Flacco is growing every year, and if Woodley thinks he's seen all that Flacco can do, he's badly mistaken. He's far from perfect, but he has strengths that are just beginning to develop at this level. And Flacco is one of the most respectful and humble players in the NFL, so the comments against him are uncalled for. Woodley needs to look no further than James Harrison, who was written off early in his career and almost left the NFL, to find an example of early judgment gone wrong.

[Ronthekeys]

And I thought they said we r the ones that always trash talking? I know every raven heard about it by now. I think its our time to keep quiet and let them do the talking so we can shut them up and prove we r better then them. Bold prediction.. we will beat them both times this year and in the playoff if they make it. We have to be fired up after that comment.

[bdravens]

This is billboard material. That's all I have to say about that. It all depends if this team grows up and does something with that material.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1307814348' post='695786']
I don't understand what "had them beaten all 3 times last year" means. We did not. They got the W. Thats all that counts, not the stats not how close you thought it was, etc. And especially not against the steelers who have the most clutch qb in the game. Sometimes i think they don't mind keeping the game close on purpose because they know once they have the ball on the final drive they're going to win. The SB was a rare case, but as long as the steelers have ben the ravens have to figure out a way to score on the steelers defense so the game in out of reach for ben by the 4th qtr. [b]And at the end of the day harbaugh has never beaten rothlisberger... heck i think billick only beat him once and it took bart scott knocking his lights out to get it done.[/b] Woodley is awfully cocky, but i think he has a right to be...the ravens steelers match up is always competitive...but its lopsided if you want to compare wins and losses.
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"Harabaugh hasn't beaten [Ben]." Really? Players play the game.

As for Billick, the team won 4 of 7 games against against Pittsburgh with Ben as their QB.

[I AM LEGEND]

We can't beat them.....

So he can say whatever he wants.....


Hopefully Joe can use this as motivation....

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='JohnJohnson' timestamp='1307818268' post='695798']
[b]No one argues that the Steelers have owned us recently. What astonishes me is that people act like Flacco and the Ravens were SUPPOSED to beat the Steelers in the playoff games. They had home field advantage. They had the better defense. They had the more experienced QB, by four years. Who honestly expects a first year or a third year QB to go into Heinz field and put the team on his back to beat the Steelers?
[/quote]

Joe's was a rookie in the '09 AFC title game so it's difficult to hold the pick six against him. In the divisional round last season though, Flacco didn't need to put the team on his back. The team had a big lead after a half, squandered it and still had opportunities to come back and win but they
failed.

To me, the Ravens definitely should have beaten them.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1307838708' post='695878']
We can't beat them.....

So he can say whatever he wants.....


Hopefully [b]the team[/b] can use this as motivation....
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Fixed, but not really sure why I bothered....

[RivenHale]

We HAVEN'T beat them.

I want everyone who says "can't" to be stripped of their Ravens Fan status.