Boler / Smith Cant Compare

[K-Dog]

It is my observation that comparing boler to smith is difficult and unfair.

They have two total different playing styles.

Dare I say for two different applications.

Simth can move around amazingly well. Fast, quick, good instinct.

Accurcy on the pass, lacks a bit and does not really have a cannon.

Boler one hell of a passer, fairly decent play reader.

But he cant get out of his own way, and gets fusterated and "out of the game" too quickly and easily.

Comparing boler to smith is like comparing an SUV to a sports car.

One is better for one application and one is better for another.

Not exactally interchangeable.

[Ed_Reed20]

I agree with your assessment of the Boller and Troy but the fact is, they are both QBs and so they comparable. As frustrating as Troy has been this off-season, he has been better than Kyle. He has shown great mobility and can make plays outside the pocket. His only turnover was a pass that really should have been caught even though it was behind the receiver. Boller on the other hand has looked good at times but also made those unforced and mind-boggling turnovers we are used to seeing. The team doesn't need that. I would rather gamble on Smith's inconsistency than deal with Boller's turnovers.

[ROH522155]

I agree with your assessment of the Boller and Troy but the fact is, they are both QBs and so they comparable. As frustrating as Troy has been this off-season, he has been better than Kyle. He has shown great mobility and can make plays outside the pocket. His only turnover was a pass that really should have been caught even though it was behind the receiver. Boller on the other hand has looked good at times but also made those unforced and mind-boggling turnovers we are used to seeing. The team doesn't need that. I would rather gamble on Smith's inconsistency than deal with Boller's turnovers.

i agree..........dont really like your signature though.........your insulting the best qb weve ever had

[march4superbowl]

i agree..........dont really like your signature though.........your insulting the best qb weve ever had

He was alright but not the best we ever had. He could however manage a game, I think Vinny has had the best performances out of what I've seen. Too bad we can't combine Bollers arm w/ Troys composure.

[ROH522155]

He was alright but not the best we ever had. He could however manage a game, I think Vinny has had the best performances out of what I've seen. Too bad we can't combine Bollers arm w/ Troys composure.

he won us a super bowl. thats all i need to know to say he is the best weve had.............i know youre gonna say he didnt win it he d did but i believe that withouth dilfer we wouldnt of won it all

[berad]

he won us a super bowl. thats all i need to know to say he is the best weve had.............i know youre gonna say he didnt win it he d did but i believe that withouth dilfer we wouldnt of won it all

That has very little standing on the value of a player. And, no, Dilfer tried his hardest to lose it for us.

[Borris]

I don't know if anyone has seen it yet, but I don't think Boller is the best blocking qb anymore. See Lion's game. That backup qb blocked three guys on one play.

[ROH522155]

I don't know if anyone has seen it yet, but I don't think Boller is the best blocking qb anymore. See Lion's game. That backup qb blocked three guys on one play.

who cares how good a blocker he is?

[berad]

who cares how good a blocker he is?

The people running the ball?

Take a look at Willis' big run against the Bills last season. Boller stretched out, taking out multiple guys right in front of McGahee, without him, the play would've never happen. That's just one example. There are many more.

[bossman419]

i still think kyle is the best option... troy right now is nothing but a RB who occasionally throws. we all know if he doesnt improve hes gonna wind up getting hurt. while kyle makes some mistakes, he does have his fair share of good plays.

[BuckWilds]

The people running the ball?

Take a look at Willis' big run against the Bills last season. Boller stretched out, taking out multiple guys right in front of McGahee, without him, the play would've never happen. That's just one example. There are many more.

I don't need a QB that can block just like I don't need a pitcher that can dunk. That happens about the same amount of times in a season...

[Moderator 2]

I do think Flacco is the real deal--just maybe not right now.

[berad]

I don't need a QB that can block just like I don't need a pitcher that can dunk. That happens about the same amount of times in a season...

There are two of Kyle's blocks on a highlight film someone made here I believe. Link

1:31, the Bills game.

3:01, the Pats game.

Both times Kyle helped make big gains through his blocking. What do pitchers dunking have to do with anything?

[march4superbowl]

I do think Flacco is the real deal--just maybe not right now.

pretty BOLD statement. LOL maybe he'll change your mind in the future?

EDIT: sorry I thought u said u didn't think he was the real deal

[I*Bleed*Purple]

pretty BOLD statement. LOL maybe he'll change your mind in the future?

You don't think he's the real deal? I do. I think he's shown more promise than the other two. Obviously not ready, but I bet we see him late in the season if the starter goes down. And he'll start next year

-----just read your edit lol

[ROH522155]

The people running the ball?

Take a look at Willis' big run against the Bills last season. Boller stretched out, taking out multiple guys right in front of McGahee, without him, the play would've never happen. That's just one example. There are many more.

yea but blocking isnt really something u look at when your trying to find a quarterback

[Ed_Reed20]

I agree with berad talking about Kyle's blocking. Kyle may not be the best QB in the league but the guy is fearless. He takes big hits and keeps on ticking and he's always willing to throw a block whether it be a busted play or simply to help the team. He's one of the few QBs who I've seen at ANY level run 10+ yards down the field to make a block.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

yea but blocking isnt really something u look at when your trying to find a quarterback

Agreed.

[Moderator 2]

pretty BOLD statement. LOL maybe he'll change your mind in the future?

EDIT: sorry I thought u said u didn't think he was the real deal

What impressed me tonite was his improvement each quarter, he looked tentative in the first, but he got progressively stronger as the game progressed, responded well to coaching at half time, did not get tunnel vision or happy feet. I think he needs to work with the trainers to bulk up a bit, but so do most rookies. I see much hope for the future but the next two months could be interesting

[berad]

yea but blocking isnt really something u look at when your trying to find a quarterback

Why not? It helps the Offense. It's a factor of Boller's game, just as scrambling is a factor of Troy's.

[march4superbowl]

What impressed me tonite was his improvement each quarter, he looked tentative in the first, but he got progressively stronger as the game progressed, responded well to coaching at half time, did not get tunnel vision or happy feet. I think he needs to work with the trainers to bulk up a bit, but so do most rookies. I see much hope for the future but the next two months could be interesting

Yeah, and train to improve his mobility, maybe take some lessons from good ol troy.

And I do admire the way Kyle throws himself out for a block, good stuff.

[EdReedisthebestsafetyeva20]

I didnt see anything wrong with boller last season except one or 2 interceptions.

Smith hasnt ever done anything good but he has the best potential of the qb's and obviously you can compare them as they both are quarterbacks. Throwing the ball is the most important thing and i think boller has the best accuracy of the ravens QB's

[march4superbowl]

I didnt see anything wrong with boller last season except one or 2 interceptions.

Smith hasnt ever done anything good but he has the best potential of the qb's and obviously you can compare them as they both are quarterbacks. Throwing the ball is the most important thing and i think boller has the best accuracy of the ravens QB's

IDK I think it's equally important to avoid being sacked / pressured into bad throws, that way you have a chance to even attempt a pass.(not everyone gets to throw behind Peyton Mannings line)

[EdReedisthebestsafetyeva20]

The o-line needs to step it up this year so our qb's can perform to there max instead of worrying about the rush every play

[I*Bleed*Purple]

Smith hasnt ever done anything good but he has the best potential of the qb's

He might have the best potential right now, but Flacco has the best potential long-term. Flacco is the future of this franchise, but he's not ready quite yet. Like I said, look for him late this season/next season. And the Mod is right. The first few games are gonna be very interesting as far as the QB spot is concerned.

[march4superbowl]

That might happen bout 6-8 games into the season(o-line). Untill then we're gonna need Troy and I think he is pretty accurate he just can't throw as far as Kyle or Joe.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

That might happen bout 6-8 games into the season(o-line). Untill then we're gonna need Troy and I think he is pretty accurate he just can't throw as far as Kyle or Joe.

As many of you know, I am NOT a fan of Troy or Kyle, really. I think Kyle should start but Smith might be the better candidate if the O-line decides to fold. I don't think either one of them have what it takes to take us deep into the playoffs, or even into the playoffs for that matter. I think they are a bandaid until Flacco is ready. I think he will be third on the depth chart until late in the season when he becomes the number 2 guy. And if the season looks like it's all for not 9 or 10 games in, I think he'll get his chance to start.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

The people running the ball?

Take a look at Willis' big run against the Bills last season. Boller stretched out, taking out multiple guys right in front of McGahee, without him, the play would've never happen. That's just one example. There are many more.

he also blocked ad ona run during that pats game last year

also i will give you troy hasnt done anything really great yet but what has he done that is so terrible if the d is healthy than the least we need our qb to do is not turn the ball over. now i dont care what anyone has seen in training camp and the int in the vikings game wasnt really his fault(if it hits the reciever in the hands they should be able to catch it) tell me what has he done that makes you say i would rather put the guy in who has a history that ive seen of throwing picks and fumbling

[ROH522155]

I didnt see anything wrong with boller last season except one or 2 interceptions.

Smith hasnt ever done anything good but he has the best potential of the qb's and obviously you can compare them as they both are quarterbacks. Throwing the ball is the most important thing and i think boller has the best accuracy of the ravens QB's

last year Kyle Boller couldnt beat the Dolphins. nuff said.

we tied the game at the end and wouldve won in ot if it wasnt for a missed fg because this one guy came in for Boller at the end and played great. i think his name was smith somethin.

oh yeah thats right it was troy smith!

[btk1]

It is my observation that comparing boler to smith is difficult and unfair.

Simth does not really have a cannon.

I hate when people say that about Smith. He has amazing arm strength. Has anyone watched some of the long balls he through in the NCAA?