Profootballfocus - Matt Ryan: Better Than You Think

[atljbo]

[quote][b][url="http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/19/matt-ryan-better-than-you-think/"]Matt Ryan: Better Than You Think[/url][/b]

He only completed 62.5% of passes, good for 13th in the league.

He only threw for 3,705 yards, something just eight quarterbacks bettered.

He only managed 28 touchdowns, five others had more.

He, of course, is Matt Ryan. And he’s a player fans and media pundits alike seem to be divided on.

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This is a ok article to read... This explains to some who think matt is a little over -rated... Why some think highly of him.


Just wanted to see what you guys think.. Check out the article.

[flynismo]

Who cares? All this Matt Ryan talk in a Ravens forum is getting old.

[-Truth-]

I have a feeling this will be moved to the Other NFL Teams section.

[flynismo]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1305820241' post='688416']<br />I have a feeling this will be moved to the Other NFL Teams section.<br />[/quote]


it should be moved to the recycle bin.
Matt Ryan the 7th best player of last season?? Over Brady, Manning etc etc...
Wow.

[atljbo]

oh.. mybad... its cool if the mods move it to the Other NFL Teams section

[Alexir]

Matt Ryan wasn't on the board when we were drafting. Flacco, the 2nd best, was. I have no problem with Ryan. They both will have long careers

[Bltravens]

Matt Ryan is a good QB, I dont think anyone will dispute that on this board. I think he and Flacco are both solid but not yet elite QBs. Ryan has one thing over Flacco that I like and that's going through his progressions quicker and more efficiently than Flacco. Other than that I can't say one is obviously better than the other. Id like to see Ryan goto Pittsburgh in the dead of winter and throw against that defense, its not so easy lol.

Ill never get over the fact that Ryan was the ONE guy Ozzie was going to mortgage the future for in Ozzie's what 16/17 year stint as GM? Not even because I dont think Ryan is good, just Ozzie never mortgage's for ANYBODY.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1305820920' post='688423']
Matt Ryan wasn't on the board when we were drafting. Flacco, the 2nd best, was. I have no problem with Ryan. They both will have long careers
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I'm with you on that. I wish them both the best.

[atljbo]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1305820920' post='688423']
Matt Ryan wasn't on the board when we were drafting. Flacco, the 2nd best, was. I have no problem with Ryan. They both will have long careers
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I agree.. Both will have long successful careers.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1305819330' post='688410']
This is a ok article to read... This explains to some who think matt is a little over -rated... Why some think highly of him.


Just wanted to see what you guys think.. Check out the article.
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I still think what I've always thought. Matt Ryan is a good QB. Flacco is a good QB. As of right now, I don't think one is better than the other but if pushed I'd choose Flacco because he has performed against tougher defenses, without the benefit of half (or more) of his games inside a dome, and has gone to the playoffs all three years he's started (and won some of those playoff games).

And you've really just proven the fact that many of us lament. Ryan is the media's darling boy. No way he belongs that high.

[BirdWatcher]

[quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1305820396' post='688418']
oh.. mybad... its cool if the mods move it to the Other NFL Teams section
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Thanks for understanding. This DOES belong in Other NFL Teams and has been moved.

[atljbo]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1305822254' post='688431']
I still think what I've always thought. Matt Ryan is a good QB. Flacco is a good QB. As of right now, I don't think one is better than the other but if pushed I'd choose Flacco because he has performed against tougher defenses, without the benefit of half (or more) of his games inside a dome, and has gone to the playoffs all three years he's started (and won some of those playoff games).

And you've really just proven the fact that many of us lament. Ryan is the media's darling boy. No way he belongs that high.
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I agree that some have the guy pretty high

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='atljbo' timestamp='1305822657' post='688435']
I agree that some have the guy pretty high
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I think you get the idea that we don't like the Falcons or Ryan. That is not the case IMO. Our disgust is with the media touting on him while Flacco gets no love, only criticism. Perhaps some comparisons of those stats your quoted article threw around might help put in perspective our frustration.

Matt Ryan: Better Than You Think

He only completed 62.5% of passes, good for 13th in the league. [b]Flacco only completed 62.6% of his passes.
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He only threw for 3,705 yards, something just eight quarterbacks bettered. [b]Flacco only threw for 3622 yards. Roughly 80 yds less but he had roughly 80 less attempts as well.
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He only managed 28 touchdowns, five others had more. [b]Flacco managed 25. Without any speed in his WR corp and no real deep threat and 80 less attempts.[/b]

He, of course, is Matt Ryan. And he’s a player fans and media pundits alike seem to be divided on.

I'd add one more stat: Ryan's passer rating : 91.0 Flacco's : 93.6.

[flynismo]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1305823719' post='688443']<br />I think you get the idea that we don't like the Falcons or Ryan. That is not the case IMO. Our disgust is with the media touting on him while Flacco gets no love, only criticism. Perhaps some comparisons of those stats your quoted article threw around might help put in perspective our frustration.<br /><br />Matt Ryan: Better Than You Think<br /><br />He only completed 62.5% of passes, good for 13th in the league. <b>Flacco only completed 62.6% of his passes.<br /></b><br /><br />He only threw for 3,705 yards, something just eight quarterbacks bettered. <b>Flacco only threw for 3622 yards. Roughly 80 yds less but he had roughly 80 less attempts as well. <br /></b><br /><br />He only managed 28 touchdowns, five others had more. <b>Flacco managed 25. Without any speed in his WR corp and no real deep threat and 80 less attempts.</b><br /><br />He, of course, is Matt Ryan. And he’s a player fans and media pundits alike seem to be divided on.<br /><br />I'd add one more stat: Ryan's passer rating : 91.0 Flacco's : 93.6.<br />[/quote]



Yeah, that's the only problem some ravens fans have. Ryan being the "Chosen One", while Flacco is the red headed stepchild.
What's crazy is that a lot of our OWN fans treat Flacco like that. The guy is on the brink of being elite, but people still dog him for god knows what reason.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1305826483' post='688458']
Yeah, that's the only problem some ravens fans have. Ryan being the "Chosen One", while Flacco is the red headed stepchild.
What's crazy is that a lot of our OWN fans treat Flacco like that. The guy is on the brink of being elite, but people still dog him for god knows what reason.
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Yes, even some Ravens' fans are guilty of the same. After debating with some though, I've discovered many don't really know football, though they enjoy watching it. They just spew the same old from the media pundits.

[D-Rey]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1305823719' post='688443']
I think you get the idea that we don't like the Falcons or Ryan. That is not the case IMO. Our disgust is with the media touting on him while Flacco gets no love, only criticism. Perhaps some comparisons of those stats your quoted article threw around might help put in perspective our frustration.

Matt Ryan: Better Than You Think

He only completed 62.5% of passes, good for 13th in the league. [b]Flacco only completed 62.6% of his passes.
[/b]

He only threw for 3,705 yards, something just eight quarterbacks bettered. [b]Flacco only threw for 3622 yards. Roughly 80 yds less but he had roughly 80 less attempts as well.
[/b]

He only managed 28 touchdowns, five others had more. [b]Flacco managed 25. Without any speed in his WR corp and no real deep threat and 80 less attempts.[/b]

He, of course, is Matt Ryan. And he’s a player fans and media pundits alike seem to be divided on.

I'd add one more stat: Ryan's passer rating : 91.0 Flacco's : 93.6.
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+1 for that

I think Flacco and Ryan are on the same level, just on the brink of elite as other people have said. Ryan just has a better offense around him imo. I believe he will have a better offense around him this year too, but i hope I'm wrong.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1305832506' post='688528']
Yes, even some Ravens' fans are guilty of the same. After debating with some though, I've discovered many don't really know football, though they enjoy watching it. [B]They just spew the same old from the media pundits.[/b]
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Nail on head =

[theblackdog]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1305826483' post='688458']
Yeah, that's the only problem some ravens fans have. Ryan being the "Chosen One", while Flacco is the red headed stepchild.
What's crazy is that a lot of our OWN fans treat Flacco like that. The guy is on the brink of being elite, but people still dog him for god knows what reason.
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It's something I haven't quite understood. I support Flacco wholeheartedly because of what he has brought to this team and what he has pulled off in three years. Yes, he's had bad games, bad plays, and has frustrated me, but at the end of the game, I still want him playing as a Raven.