Players We Need To Re-Sign

[omar586]

ok people we're hearing that carr and wilson are not coming back to b-more, that's bull meh, those to were overachievers especially wilson, we need re-sign them to long-term contracts, just because we drafted young wr's and cb's it will not translate to immediate contributions, and lot of people are saying that housh and stallworth are gone too, that only reason those too sucked last year, because they weren't used properly, i mean come on meh, u seen what stallworth speed can do the steelers in 2nd game i believe, for some reason our couches are out-thinking themselves or something, but anyway here is the list of players we need to re-sign:
yanda
car
wilson
mcclain
nhata
landry
that's all i can remember , add any player u think we should re-sign or add through free agency.

[flynismo]

Is nhata related to Haloti Ngata? If so, lets get him, having two of them on the line would be sick...Forget Wilson. He'll cost too much, and we already have Smith, Foxy and Webb.Carr would be nice if we can get him in the $2M range, else let him walk too.Honestly, given the situation of certain players, I think this is a year that we should hang back and see what FA lands us.

[Thepurplehaze]

Ngata, Landry, Yanda, and Carr for sure.

-Stallworth could potentially stay based on his relationship with Torrey Smith.
-Housh and Gaither are most likely gone.
-Wilson will probably cost too much, and with J. Smith, Foxworth, Webb, Carr, etc. we should be just fine at CB.
-Mcclain apparently doesn't want to stay.. so who knows
-Ellerbe, Zibby, Nakamura, and Gooden I believe are all RFA's and certainly need resigning.

[hawkprey]

If we don't sign Landry there goes the run D.

[Ravens Lover]

Ngata and Wilson would be my top two, I would only resighn Yanda if they plan on playing him at gaurd as a gaurd hes awesome but he's not tackle material

[Ed_Reed20]

With Foxworth, Webb, Jimmy, Brown and Williams on the roster, I don't think both Wilson and Carr need to been re-signed, especially not to long-term deals. From a personnel and financial standpoint, it makes no sense.

With Q, Mason, Reed, the rookie WRs in the fold and all the other capable pass-catchers on the team, I see little reason either T.J. ors Donte' should be re-signed.

Something else to consider is whether those players want to return. The team added two new players to their respective positions. To me, the Ravens made it perfectly clear how interested they are in having them return. Why would I want to return to a team that may not truly want me back?

Ngata and Yanda are obviously priorities.

I think Le'Ron and Landry are expendable but we'll see if the organization feels differently.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1305580484' post='687129']
If we don't sign Landry there goes the run D.
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Not really.

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1305581655' post='687151']
Not really.
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Sure it does.
Landry was one of the our team's and the league's leading tacklers. Where his cover skills suffer he makes up for with strength and tackling(most of the time).

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

My list of players that I want re-signed (in order) is:

Ngata - No brainer.

Yanda - Plays a key role for our rushing attack. Put him back at guard where he belongs and watch him open holes like we didn't see last year.

Gaither - If he plays somewhere else for a low price, incentive based deal then I will be pissed. His absence massively derailed our offense last year, and he's our best option at LT. We're not desperate for him, but he provides a significant upgrade over whatever else we have here.

McClain - I think we will cut McGahee then give McClain most of his touches and a lot of his money as well. That way he's happy and so am I.

Wilson - Best CB on the team last year and was an absolutely brilliant piece of business from Ozzie to reel him in for a fifth round pick. Deserves to stay and be rewarded for his service last year when we needed him most, but we could maybe get by without him. Would much prefer him to stay though.

Landry - I personally think Landry on the whole played at a serviceable level last year, but I could point out a number of plays where he let up TDs, which in some cases cost us the games. We could pursue a UDFA safety or another FA (maybe both) for cheaper and not miss him much.

Carr - I feel it's now a case of him or Wilson staying, and it could quite well be Carr if Wilson demands a sizable contract, which we won't give him due to the contract that Foxy already has, and the one Smith will receive.

I don't particularly want either Stallworth or Houshmanzadeh to return. Nothing personal, but we need to develop the guys we've drafted in the past couple of years. Also, neither of the vets produced to the point where I could say that they were irreplaceable.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1305581655' post='687151']
Not really.
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I second that.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305581928' post='687156']
Sure it does.
Landry was one of the our team's and the league's leading tacklers. Where his cover skills suffer he makes up for with strength and tackling(most of the time).
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOKEF0RKZg[/media]


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfcQcgaxQu8[/media]


This is not 2007 Landry anymore. He is not as detrimental to our defense as you make him out to be.

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1305583982' post='687181']

This is not 2007 Landry anymore. He is not as detrimental to our defense as you make him out to be.
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Like I said..most of the time...
And I'm sorry but you don't make 111 tackles as a SS coming off a life-threatening injury without being a pretty special player.

And you could take a couple bad plays from ANY player for the year. I see a lot of people like Wilson on this board. Can we get clips of the multiple blown-coverages he gave up last year? (e.g. Roddy White play). Also that Redman play was the result of about 6 Ravens' poor tackling..you can't exactly hang that on Landry.

Landry isn't the best SS out there, but he's a definitive Raven player at this point. We'd be stupid to give him up, and I KNOW Ozzie won't.

[flynismo]

Yeah I really dont think our run d will collapse without Landry. Lol

[JO_75]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1305580484' post='687129']
If we don't sign Landry there goes the run D.
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We'll be fine. We need a upgrade at SS and right now until Free Agency begins and he signs with another team or stays with the Bills, I say let Landry go and sign Donte Whitner!

Ngata is Franchised, Wilson yes and if somehow we can re-sign Carr our CB depth will be great.

[Bltravens]

If our run D relies on a SS then our rush D sucks, plain and simple.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305584579' post='687189']
Like I said..most of the time...
And I'm sorry but you don't make 111 tackles as a SS coming off a life-threatening injury without being a pretty special player.

And you could take a couple bad plays from ANY player for the year. I see a lot of people like Wilson on this board. Can we get clips of the multiple blown-coverages he gave up last year? [b](e.g. Roddy White play)[/b]. Also that Redman play was the result of about 6 Ravens' poor tackling..you can't exactly hang that on Landry.

Landry isn't the best SS out there, but he's a definitive Raven player at this point. We'd be stupid to give him up, and I KNOW Ozzie won't.
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Oh, we're blaming the White play completely on Wilson now? I'm about to clear out my Inbox, because I'm obviously not getting these memos.

[ravens rule]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1305586599' post='687202']
If our run D relies on a SS then our rush D sucks, plain and simple.
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steelers

[Bltravens]

[quote name='ravens rule' timestamp='1305587804' post='687207']
steelers
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Steelers rush D doesn't revolve around Polamalu, it suffers abit but not remotely close to when they lost Smith and Keisel in 09

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1305587301' post='687206']
Oh, we're blaming the White play completely on Wilson now? I'm about to clear out my Inbox, because I'm obviously not getting these memos.
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You should check your inbox again... Wilson got burned on the play by a bigger, stronger Roddy White.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FvC4wPzI8w&feature=related

[Gremraven]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305588690' post='687221']
You should check your inbox again... Wilson got burned on the play by a bigger, stronger Roddy White.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FvC4wPzI8w&feature=related
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I guess you never noticed that was a PI,and Roddy admitted to pushing wilson down,the refs just never called it.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305581928' post='687156']
Sure it does.
Landry was one of the our team's and the league's leading tacklers. Where his cover skills suffer he makes up for with strength and tackling(most of the time).
[/quote]

No, it doesn't.

This team has three of the best run defenders in the league and a good number of other players that also excel in run support. Losing a solid but unspectacular player like Dawan wouldn't be a devastating blow like you imply.

[Free Agent]

Ngata, Yanda, McClain, Carr and/or Wilson are my priority FAs. I would also like to see Stallworth and maybe Gaither return.

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1305589224' post='687224']
No, it doesn't.

This team has three of the best run defenders in the league and a good number of other players that also excel in run support. Losing a solid but unspectacular player like Dawan wouldn't be a devastating blow like you imply.
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I never said it would be a devastating blow...but it's a loss for sure.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305590657' post='687237']
I never said it would be a devastating blow...but it's a loss for sure.
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Anytime you lose a starter it hurts, but we've let guys walk before that were starters on defense and have been ok. Lets just hope Dallas signs him to a ridiculous contract and we get a comp pick out of it lol

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305584579' post='687189']
Like I said..most of the time...
And I'm sorry but you don't make 111 tackles as a SS coming off a life-threatening injury without being a pretty special player.

And you could take a couple bad plays from ANY player for the year. I see a lot of people like Wilson on this board. [b]Can we get clips of the multiple blown-coverages he gave up last year? (e.g. Roddy White play).[/b] Also that Redman play was the result of about 6 Ravens' poor tackling..you can't exactly hang that on Landry.

Landry isn't the best SS out there, but he's a definitive Raven player at this point. We'd be stupid to give him up, and I KNOW Ozzie won't.
[/quote]
So an obvious Offensive PI is now a blown coverage? I dont think so. Wilson was our best CB last year, and personally I would love to see him brought back. With Wilson, Smith, and Webb we would have a young and talented group of CBs that we could keep around for years.

Landry is a mediocre SS at best. I agree that he is above-average when it comes to assisting in run stuffing, but he is also a liability in coverage. With the way the NFL has evolved into a pass-first league it is critical that both safeties are adept at coverage. We can sign a FA safety that will be an improvement in that aspect, and its not like Landry is the only safety that knows how to assist in the run-game.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305584579' post='687189']
Like I said..most of the time...
And I'm sorry but you don't make 111 tackles as a SS coming off a life-threatening injury without being a pretty special player.

And you could take a couple bad plays from ANY player for the year. I see a lot of people like Wilson on this board. Can we get clips of the multiple blown-coverages he gave up last year? (e.g. Roddy White play). Also that Redman play was the result of about 6 Ravens' poor tackling..you can't exactly hang that on Landry.

Landry isn't the best SS out there, but he's a definitive Raven player at this point. We'd be stupid to give him up, and I KNOW Ozzie won't.
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White pushed off of Wilson at least twice that game. And I mean White is a freak athlete and a number 1 receiver. Not some 3rd string or 2nd string running back like Redman and Snelling

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1305590657' post='687237']
I never said it would be a devastating blow...but it's a loss for sure.
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But you agreed with someone who said the run D would go with Dawan if he left. That would imply you believe him leaving would be a devastating loss.

[Romo Ravens]

Wilson needs to stay. He played better last season than Foxworth did in his first season, plus he's coming off a torn ACL. I have nothing against him, but Wilson needs to come back. That should be made a priority. If we need to cut Foxworth to do so, so be it

[hawkprey]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1305581655' post='687151']
Not really.
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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1305584947' post='687190']
Yeah I really dont think our run d will collapse without Landry. Lol
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Oh yeah, who's going to replace Landry? Nakamura? He's way too light to make the 100+ tackles Landry does in one season.

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1305583982' post='687181']

This is not 2007 Landry anymore. He is not as detrimental to our defense as you make him out to be.
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Are you implying pass defense is somehow related to run defense? Because I said Landry is great in run support and those are passing plays.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1305599989' post='687314']
Oh yeah, who's going to replace Landry? Nakamura? He's way too light to make the 100+ tackles Landry does in one season.
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I don't see why Zibby couldn't transition to SS. Donte Whitner and Quintin Mikell are capable run stopping FAs too.