Kevin Kolb

[JEEPercreepermd]

Ok, so this offseason there are quite a few teams that are seemingly a veteran QB away from making a playoff run. There are also a few good Vet QB's who will probably be out there one FA FINALLY hits. Here's my question though, why is Kevin Kolb's name always mentioned in these conversations? He did nothing in Philly and looked mildly mediocre in doing so. Sure, he's young but I just don't get the hype.

[Perfekt]

Hes not a bad qb but your right hes mostly hype. At this point tho he would help any team that needs a Qb tho.

[AwakenTheDemon]

I've never understood the Kolb situation either. Sure, he was drafted to eventually replace McNabb until Vick derailed that plan. However, the games he [i]has[/i] played in, he certainly didn't look like a quarterback that should be as vaunted as he apparently is. He definitely doesn't look like he's worth multiple draft picks, or a first rounder, especially when you realize that he's an original second round pick who hasn't done anything in the pros. Sorry, but "youth" only gets you so far if you don't have the talent to match it. I'm not saying he isn't talented, but he certainly hasn't shown he's worth what the Eagles are asking for.

[FerrariFan87]

He's not that good and is one big hit away from being out with another concussion.

[RavensAllTheWay]

I agree that he's getting too much love. But I'm hoping he goes to the NFC West. To me, him in San Fran would have been the dream fit for both parties. You talk about all these different possible scenarios for Kolb and other QBs along with the 49ers and other teams, but him in San Fran would've been just what both sides needed. However, that ship sailed when the 49ers not only drafted Kapernick, but traded up for him, and they are still showing some love towards Alex Smith.

It would be really interesting to see him as a Cardinal or Seahawk, so he'd play the 49ers twice a year.

I'm not necessarily hoping for this to happen, but I think it would be legitimately funny if he went to one of those teams and made a habit of torching the 49ers.

[Ravens Lover]

I just think he is just another Alex Smith

[Bltravens]

Last year he shredded the Falcons in the Georgia Dome. 2009 he had a couple decent back to back games when McNabb went down. He has talent I dont think you can debate that, him being valued at a 1st round pick was overblown to me, but I didnt think it was out of the question for the Eagles to ask for a 2nd round pick. He was the only QB to beat the Falcons in ATL last year until Rodger's came back to town, and even then he lost the first time there.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1305139531' post='685141']
Last year he shredded the Falcons in the Georgia Dome. 2009 he had a couple decent back to back games when McNabb went down. He has talent I dont think you can debate that, him being valued at a 1st round pick was overblown to me, but I didnt think it was out of the question for the Eagles to ask for a 2nd round pick. He was the only QB to beat the Falcons in ATL last year until Rodger's came back to town, and even then he lost the first time there.
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Actually the Eagles win over the Falcons this past season was in Philly. And the Saints went into the Georgia Dome in the last monday night football game last year and beat the Falcons.

But anyway, I agree that Kolb has 2nd round value as opposed to 1st.

[JO_75]

Even the Dolphins agree that Kolb isn't worth the Value that Eagles are asking for.

[quote]As one Dolphins official explained it, Kolb’s body of work consists of seven career starts, 11 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions.[/quote]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/11/dolphins-doubt-kevin-kolb-is-worth-the-price-in-a-trade/

Should be interesting to see who over pays for Kolb in terms of Trade Value and how much they would have to pay him in a long term contract.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1305140975' post='685149']
Actually the Eagles win over the Falcons this past season was in Philly. And the Saints went into the Georgia Dome in the last monday night football game last year and beat the Falcons.

But anyway, I agree that Kolb has 2nd round value as opposed to 1st.
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Was it in Philly...damn I thought I had a solid point lol

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1305141902' post='685160']
Even the Dolphins agree that Kolb isn't worth the Value that Eagles are asking for.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/11/dolphins-doubt-kevin-kolb-is-worth-the-price-in-a-trade/

Should be interesting to see who over pays for Kolb in terms of Trade Value and how much they would have to pay him in a long term contract.
[/quote]

Exactly. Kolb might be worth a conditional 4th Round pick. He's done squat in this league.

[Romo Ravens]

I think Kolb is worth a second, purely based off of potential. I think he's going to the Cardinals.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1305146285' post='685197']
I think Kolb is worth a second, purely based off of potential. I think he's going to the Cardinals.
[/quote]

I wouldn't even offer a Second for Kolb. I would just offer a conditional low Pick(5th) that can go as high as a 2nd if the team is able to make the NFC Title Game. 3rd Rounder if they make the playoffs, and 4th Rounder if they finish with 9 wins or higher.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1305144300' post='685175']
Was it in Philly...damn I thought I had a solid point lol
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Whatever, I still gotcha.

[lowrider]

Kevin Kolb was like the first qb to ever throw for over 300 yards in his first two games he ever played in. Now take that for what it is. But the Eagles line is dreadful. He never had time to drop back and make 7 step drops like he is made for. I think he can make big time throws and I think he could be a good qb in the NFL if he gets enough protection. I mean the Eagles struggled to block for Vick and he scrambles and gives the line so much extra time. I think you all are hating a bit early. He has a lot of potential, he just needs the opportunity. I see a Matt Schaub type of player. Pretty good, fills of the statsheet but is home during January and February.

[Clutch Ravens]

Every prospect's value decreases after being drafted. That is, unless they become an All Pro/Pro Bowlers or, for some reason, are a backup QB.

Any team that gives up anything more than a mid 2nd round pick is overpaying for the most over-hyped Quarterback. Mike Kafka's going to start getting attention too. Why? Because Andy Reid likes him and he's a backup QB.

[YYZ66]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1305141902' post='685160']
Even the Dolphins agree that Kolb isn't worth the Value that Eagles are asking for.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/11/dolphins-doubt-kevin-kolb-is-worth-the-price-in-a-trade/

Should be interesting to see who over pays for Kolb in terms of Trade Value and how much they would have to pay him in a long term contract.
[/quote]

Interesting. The Dolphins were the bozos that gave Philly a 2nd round pick for AJ freakin' Feeley! Guess they learned their lesson....

[AwakenTheDemon]

Honestly, I wouldn't even trade a 2nd rounder for him, even a 3rd would be stretching it in my opinion. He hasn't shown much of anything, and when he came in for McNabb against us... well, it wasn't pretty to say the least. I agree that someone will overpay for him, and I don't see the payoff being worth it.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1305275080' post='685917']
Honestly, I wouldn't even trade a 2nd rounder for him, even a 3rd would be stretching it in my opinion. He hasn't shown much of anything, and when he came in for McNabb against us... well, it wasn't pretty to say the least. I agree that someone will overpay for him, and I don't see the payoff being worth it.
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Yeah, I heard Schefter this morning talk about one of the teams in the NFC West giving up a 1st Round pick... that's insane unless you know for sure he'll turn into a franchise QB, which I just don't see.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1305297371' post='685951']
Yeah, I heard Schefter this morning talk about one of the teams in the NFC West giving up a 1st Round pick... that's insane unless you know for sure he'll turn into a franchise QB, which I just don't see.
[/quote]
Yeah, Billick and Eisen talked about him again today and both said late first/early second. I just don't see it. He had a 1 to 1 INT/TD ratio last year......

[AwakenTheDemon]

NFL.com is saying Bulger would be too "short-sighted" for the Cards in locking up Fitz for the long-term, and Kolb would make much more sense.

[JO_75]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1305326329' post='686111']
NFL.com is saying Bulger would be too "short-sighted" for the Cards in locking up Fitz for the long-term, [b]and Kolb would make much more sense.[/b]
[/quote]

They should just talk Kurt Warner out of retirement, or tank the season and get Andrew Luck next year, that might be the only way Larry re-signs with the Cardinals at this point.

Right Now 31 other teams are praying that the Cardinals don't find a QB and Larry hits Free Agency.

[ed.s52]

Considering the massive need some teams have at QB a first or maybe conditional first (being a first or a second depending on performance) would certainly be worth it for a team like the Cardinals who have absolutely no options or like the Skins if Mike Shanahan decides not to do the smart thing and give McNabb another chance.You could hate on McNabb all you want, but the Skins won't have a QB better than him next year.

But if I wasn't a team as desparate as the Cards, I'd definitely say Kolb is worth no more than a late second.

[ravensfan2424]

All i know about Kolb is that he threw the pass that set the record for longest interception return in NFL history XD. Seriously though, i does deserve some hype because of his youth and the moments he shines, but he shouldn't be signed over more experienced veterans like bulger or mcnabb.

[Bltravens]

Read today that the Eagles are still wanting that 1st round pick and the Cardinals are the front runner. John Clayton was saying that Bulger might be completely out of the Cardinal QB sweepstakes.

[SaVaGe]

I said at the beginning of last year he would be benched before the end of the year and I was right. He isn't good, I'm sorry it is just the truth, he will never be a franchise QB despite how hard teams are trying to make him that. He will be a game manager and a poor one at that. He has been developing for what? 4 years now. Bust. Vick and McNabb did significantly better with the same talent.

[Guest deltaraven]

[quote name='JEEPercreepermd' timestamp='1304965485' post='684152']
Ok, so this offseason there are quite a few teams that are seemingly a veteran QB away from making a playoff run. There are also a few good Vet QB's who will probably be out there one FA FINALLY hits. Here's my question though, why is Kevin Kolb's name always mentioned in these conversations? He did nothing in Philly and looked mildly mediocre in doing so. Sure, he's young but I just don't get the hype.
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The Eagles always get alot of press coverage period-I guess they have a pretty large fan base-Kolb will go to the 49ers or Cardinals

[JO_75]

[quote name='deltaraven' timestamp='1307133193' post='693010']
The Eagles always get alot of press coverage period-I guess they have a pretty large fan base-Kolb will go to the [b]49ers[/b] or Cardinals
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I can't see him going to the 49ers. From all indications Jim Harbaugh is committed to resigning Alex Smith and for Smith to be the bridge to the QB they drafted in the second round, Colin Kaepernick.

Arizona I can see happening, but I think Arizona is better off with trading for Kyle Orton since the Cardinals are in win now mode with the team they got, and they can draft a developmental QB next year to sit behind Orton. Again, Kolb is over rated.

[JO_75]

RUMOR: Seahawks offered a 1st & 3rd for Kevin Kolb. The Seahawks and Eagles must have had some talk when the lockout was lifted in April or before the Lockout in March.

http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/206008/report-seahawks-offered-two-picks-for-kolb?rw=1

Sounds like they are trying to replace Matt Hasselbeck with the younger Kevin Kolb. I now am starting to wonder the improvements to the offensive line in the draft with Carpenter, and Moffit are to improve the offensive line for not just the running game, but to protect Kolb.

[flynismo]

I'd give up a 4th for Kolb. And that is only if I were desperate and had no other options. Whoever said Alex Smith made a very cunning comparison. No arm strength, average accuracy, question decision maker, has not shown any improvisation skills. Have no clue what people are looking at when they say they see potential in him.