Madden 12 Rookie Ratings

[20ravens52]

Anyone hear anything about the rookie ratings this year?

I remeber last year they had the ratings out a day or two after the draft. I am curious what our guys will get.


My guess for Jimmy Smith is about a 79 Overall.

[ryan23945]

cam newtons old spice swagger will be high

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[quote name='ryan23945' timestamp='1304385412' post='680266']
cam newtons old spice swagger will be high
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Ha well said sir

[AwakenTheDemon]

I'm just going to give approximate guesses:
J. Smith: 77-83
T. Smith: 76-80
Reid: 72-76
Doss: 73-77
Brown: 67-72
McPhee: 66-73
Taylor: 68-71
Allen: 65-72

[Bea]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304408513' post='680410']
I'm just going to give approximate guesses:
J. Smith: 77-83
T. Smith: 76-80
Reid: 72-76
Doss: 73-77
Brown: 67-72
McPhee: 66-73
Taylor: 68-71
Allen: 65-72
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Only J. Smith will be approaching/in the 80s. T. Smith will be in the low to mid 70s. If Doss is lucky he will hit 72. Reid will be lucky to get 70. Everyone else will be lucky to get 65.

Serious. That 'Ratings Czar' is a talentles hack. Easiest job in the world. I can't beleive he gets paid to do what he does. Does he even watch the NCAA or follow the sport? Unless you're a 1st round player your rating will be garbage.

This I guarantee.

They should fire this clown and use crowd sourcing for the ratings. There's enough of a fanbase to do it.

He calls himself the 'Ratings Czar'. That says it all.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Bea' timestamp='1304421142' post='680430']
Only J. Smith will be approaching/in the 80s. T. Smith will be in the low to mid 70s. If Doss is lucky he will hit 72. Reid will be lucky to get 70. Everyone else will be lucky to get 65.

Serious. That 'Ratings Czar' is a talentles hack. Easiest job in the world. I can't beleive he gets paid to do what he does. Does he even watch the NCAA or follow the sport? Unless you're a 1st round player your rating will be garbage.

This I guarantee.

[b]They should fire this clown and use crowd sourcing for the ratings. There's enough of a fanbase to do it.[/b]

He calls himself the 'Ratings Czar'. That says it all.
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Yeah, that's exactly what we need. Then nearly every pick will end up in the 90's

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304440509' post='680572']
Yeah, that's exactly what we need. Then nearly every pick will end up in the 90's
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It wouldn't work, but a number of real fans would be MUCH better at rating the rookies than him.

Seriously, if rating players in Madden was all I had to do for my job, I'd be ecstatic and do a better job than the fool they have doing it now.

[Bltravens]

Really what should happen is there should be a ratings guy for each division, and then a "Czar" for each conference to oversee the players and make sure the division guys are doing the ratings correctly and not just rating their guys for how they play in their own division.

JSmith will be around a 78-80- Kindle was in the same situation last year a top 15 talent that fell to us and he was a 78 before they dropped him to a 72 because of his injury. "A" potential

Torrey Smith will be around a 73 with about a 91 or 92 speed rating. "B" potential

Jah Reid my guess will be at exactly a 70 with good footwork ratings in run and pass blocking, but his strength will be lower than his footwork ratings. "B" potential

Tandon Doss will be around a 70 as well, his catch rating, route running should be high as well as catch in traffic. He's going to be a zone buster at the NFL level in the slot most likely."B" potential

Chykie Brown will be like a 65, his speed and press ratings should be ok, something a franchiser can work with, his man cov will be better than zone but neither will be above 72ish. "C" potential

McPhee will be like a 60, junior college transfer guy with limited success at Miss St doesnt translate to Madden ratings lol. "C" potential

Tyrod Taylor should be in the higher 60s imo, around 67. Rating a QB is hard because the only thing you can really do to rank their ability to scan the field, adjust protections, read coverages etc is their "awareness" rating. I imagine Taylor will have like a 50 awareness, but his raw skills should all be there, accuracy short, mid should be in the mid 70s, throw power should be in the mid 80s, speed should be in the low 80s as well. If we were talking strictly his raw tools he would have a "B" potential for me, but he'll likely have a "C"

Allen will be like a 63, he'll have mid 80s speed with ok acceleration, and should have a decent break tackle rating. If Parmele has a "C" potential rating then so should Allen.

[Clutch Ravens]

I HATE their stupid potential ratings.

There are so many variables included in a players development that they shouldn't be limited by a dumb cap. The Ratings Czar has no idea how to rate the players stats, nevermind their potentials.

Position specific Coaches (O-Line, D-Line, Secondary, Linebackers, Quarterbacks, Receivers, Runningbacks) should have an impact on how the player develops. So should the scheme, co-ordinator and head coach.

I bet all the undrafted free agents (despite being MUCH better than a LOT of guys drafted) will have pretty bad numbers and even worse potential. I understand that it's hard to rate every player individually, but their current system is cheap, shallow and ineffective. I want to pick up a Mario Harvey/Mark Herzlich etc. and have my coaches help make them the best players they can be. Not just sit there and think "Aww, crap, He has a C Potential? He's worthless to my team."

[TDubbs]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1304445326' post='680637']
Really what should happen is there should be a ratings guy for each division, and then a "Czar" for each conference to oversee the players and make sure the division guys are doing the ratings correctly and not just rating their guys for how they play in their own division.
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Id say that you are probably spot on with your predictions. Your potential ratings are most likely exactly right. This just got me so stoked to do the online franchise fantasy draft with my buddies. What an exciting madden to look forward too.

[20ravens52]

Gunna make my predictions now

Jimmy Smith OVR 80
92 Speed
Potential A

Torrey Smith OVR 76
93 Speed
Catching 76
Potential A

Jah Reid OVR 71
Potential B

Tandon Doss OVR 72
Speed 86
Catching 82
Potential B

Chykie Brown OVR 67
Speed 90
Potential B

Pernell McPhee OVR 70
Potential A (very balanced player in terms of strength and speed)
Speed 72
Strength 84


Tyrod Taylor OVR 66
Speed 86
Potential B

Anthony Allen OVR 66
Speed 86
Potential B


Curious to see if they are close...

[JO_75]

I been wondering about this too, I have made all 32 Rookies in the First Round and started on about 3-4 2nd Round Rookies and I'm ready to put their real ratings in.

I'll guess for the 2 Smith's and Jah Reid

- Jimmy Smith: 78-80 A POT

- Torrey Smith- 70-75 B POT

- Jah Reid: 65-70 B POT

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1304446328' post='680656']
I HATE their stupid potential ratings.

There are so many variables included in a players development that they shouldn't be limited by a dumb cap. The Ratings Czar has no idea how to rate the players stats, nevermind their potentials.

Position specific Coaches (O-Line, D-Line, Secondary, Linebackers, Quarterbacks, Receivers, Runningbacks) should have an impact on how the player develops. So should the scheme, co-ordinator and head coach.

I bet all the undrafted free agents (despite being MUCH better than a LOT of guys drafted) will have pretty bad numbers and even worse potential. I understand that it's hard to rate every player individually, but their current system is cheap, shallow and ineffective. I want to pick up a Mario Harvey/Mark Herzlich etc. and have my coaches help make them the best players they can be. Not just sit there and think "Aww, crap, He has a C Potential? He's worthless to my team."
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I think there has to be a potential rating, otherwise the CPU wouldnt know how to progress them after seasons. But I would love if you could put your guys through practices like in NCAA Campus Legend or w/e its called, and you earn points towards your player that way based on how he performs in practice. Even going through drills with a position coach like you stated would be a step up. But I think the potential rating has to be there just as a base from where the CPU works with. It shouldn't be possible to just pick up a bunch of UDFA with some tools and turn the entire team into studs after 4 years of practice lol, there has to be some limitations on their potential.

[BloodRaven]

The fact that EA changes the potential ratings in roster updates when you're not able to manually shows you how flawed it is.

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1304872190' post='683634']
The fact that EA changes the potential ratings in roster updates when you're not able to manually shows you how flawed it is.
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You can, technically.

To raise a player's cap to, say, Potential A 99 Overall you have to put him up to 99 overall, keep changes without saving, go back on to the player and drop his ratings back down to what they were and his potential will now be an A.

This, however, is time consuming and thankless. EA should make you able to change it without having to do that since the potential ratings they give them are awful.

Even after the latest roster updates Rodger Saffold is a potential B. Sorry, what? Did they miss him outperforming Russell Okung, Trent Williams and Bryan Bulaga? Why is this "Ratings Czar" in a job?

[SpeedKills]

Evil Ratings Czar. Here's my ratings.

Jimmy Smith: 75 - 81, most likely a 77. Speed 87-91, strength 69-76, awareness 70s, agility 85-95.

Torrey Smith: 70 - 77. I think he'll be a 73. Speed 90-93, strength 67-73, awareness 68-73, and jumping in the 90s, agility in the 80s, and catching 72-80.

Jah Reid: 70 - 75, with it falling to a 72. Don't know enough about him to guess at the strength/agillity ratings.

Tandon Doss: He should be a 71 - 77, but he'll be more like a 68-70 range; probably 70. Speed 80 - 86, strength 67-75, awareness 80-85, agility 80-85, and catching in the 90s.

Chykie Brown: 63 - 68, coming to a 66 because of his versatility. Don't know enough about Chykie either.

Pernell McPhee: Ratings Czar will not be kind to a Juco transfer that didn't have a huge impact, meaning a 60 - 65 rating. Probably a 63.

Tyrod Taylor: 65 - 70. I know 70's optimistic, but he certainly has the talent for it. I think he'll be a 68 though, with throw power in the 85 - 90 range and throw accuracy in the 70s.

Anthony Allen: 63 - 67. He's a dime-a-dozen type of back, but a pretty good one. He should be a 63. Speed 83-86, strength 75-85, awareness 63-69, agility 69-72, catching 60-65.


Really, Jimmy Smith should be the only one of our rookies that should crack the 80s. But this class is a great one for Madden players... I'll certainly be using Tandon.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='SpeedKills' timestamp='1304878445' post='683680']
Evil Ratings Czar. Here's my ratings.

Jimmy Smith: 75 - 81, most likely a 77. Speed 87-91, strength 69-76, awareness 70s, agility 85-95.

Torrey Smith: 70 - 77. I think he'll be a 73. Speed 90-93, strength 67-73, awareness 68-73, and jumping in the 90s, agility in the 80s, and catching 72-80.

Jah Reid: 70 - 75, with it falling to a 72. Don't know enough about him to guess at the strength/agillity ratings.

Tandon Doss: He should be a 71 - 77, but he'll be more like a 68-70 range; probably 70. Speed 80 - 86, strength 67-75, awareness 80-85, agility 80-85, and catching in the 90s.

Chykie Brown: 63 - 68, coming to a 66 because of his versatility. Don't know enough about Chykie either.

Pernell McPhee: Ratings Czar will not be kind to a Juco transfer that didn't have a huge impact, meaning a 60 - 65 rating. Probably a 63.

Tyrod Taylor: 65 - 70. I know 70's optimistic, but he certainly has the talent for it. I think he'll be a 68 though, with throw power in the 85 - 90 range and throw accuracy in the 70s.

Anthony Allen: 63 - 67. He's a dime-a-dozen type of back, but a pretty good one. He should be a 63. Speed 83-86, strength 75-85, awareness 63-69, agility 69-72, catching 60-65.


Really, Jimmy Smith should be the only one of our rookies that should crack the 80s. But this class is a great one for Madden players... I'll certainly be using Tandon.
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JSmith will have like 92 or 93 speed, dude ran a 4.42 40 and he plays really fast.

[20ravens52]

Have to agree with Blt, his speed will be at the VERY least a 90.

Can't believe the ratings haven't been released, maybe it has something to do with the later release date.

[wayne]

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/485175-its-ratings-season-patrick-peterson-top-rated-madden-12-rookie.html#post2042414062

That's the official rating for Patrick Peterson, the highest rated rookie on Madden 12. It leaves me wondering what Smith rating will be? Probably have higher man coverage and agility attribute than Peterson and that's about it being like a 78-79 overall.

[20ravens52]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1305849565' post='688692']
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/485175-its-ratings-season-patrick-peterson-top-rated-madden-12-rookie.html#post2042414062

That's the official rating for Patrick Peterson, the highest rated rookie on Madden 12. It leaves me wondering what Smith rating will be? Probably have higher man coverage and agility attribute than Peterson and that's about it being like a 78-79 overall.
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I dount he'll have a higher agility than Peterson since Peterson was such a good returner probably around 90 agilty. I think they're also saving the 90 man coverage for Jimmy Smith.

[Bltravens]

Damn 97 speed lol

[Token]

The top 10 is out

[quote]A fresh infusion of talent by way of the NFL draft is the surest way your favorite team can build for the future. Why do you think we always debate the top draft classes and not the top free agency classes of all time? We get excited adding rookies to Madden NFL 12 too. Rather than tweaking and adjusting ratings for the same old veterans we get to build new guys from scratch, projecting how they’ll transition to the pro game. If only their coaches could do that.

Today we’re looking at the top overall rookies in Madden NFL 12 according to ratings. Simply put, these are the new guys we’ve added to the game that should have the biggest impact right out of the box.

There are a lot more rookies in a lot more categories –like Top Wide Receivers or Running Backs—so keep it locked here. For now, get to know this batch of first year players.

10. Robert Quinn - DE - STL - 78 OVR



9. Julio Jones - WR, ATL - 78 OVR



8. Mark Ingram - RB - NO - 79 OVR



7. Mike Pouncey - OL - MIA - 79 OVR



6. Von Miller - OLB - DEN - 79 OVR



5. J.J. Watt - DE - HOU - 80 OVR



4. A.J. Green - WR - CIN - 80 OVR



3. Prince Amukamara - CB - NYG - 81 OVR



2. Marcell Dareus - DE - BUF - 82 OVR



1. Patrick Peterson - CB - ARZ - 82 OVR



That’s our look at the top rookies in Madden NFL 12. There are a lot more rookies in a lot more categories still to come. And remember we’ll be consistently updating all rosters and all players during the 2011 NFL season, so these lists are just a starting point. Keep it here for more on Madden NFL 12 rookies, ratings and info.[/quote]
[url="http://www.ea.com/madden-nfl/blog/top-rookies-in-madden-nfl-12"]EA Sports Link[/url]

Also, Torrey Smith is 69.
And Jimmy Smith is a 76.

[3-4 Assault]

Smith should be higher then a 76 IMO.

I think they dropped him a couple points for the fact that he was a late round pick.

[Token]

[quote name='columbia raven' timestamp='1311250930' post='710482']
Smith should be higher then a 76 IMO.

I think they dropped him a couple points for the fact that he was a late round pick.
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Yea, I don't understand how Prince is that much higher than Smith.

[3-4 Assault]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1311259971' post='710535']
Yea, I don't understand how Prince is that much higher than Smith.
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He shouldn't be at all.

The players draft slot has a big say in the overall ranking...which, in Jimmy's case, it shouldn't. He could have easy been drafted ahead of Prince were it not for the off field/character issues.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1311259971' post='710535']
Yea, I don't understand how Prince is that much higher than Smith.
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Ya that is an atrocious rating, Prince doesnt have close to the potential or ability to cover down the field.

[RL52TheGreatest]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1311271798' post='710649']
Ya that is an atrocious rating, Prince doesnt have close to the potential or ability to cover down the field.
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I wouldn't call it atrocious, but I would have liked to see Jimmy in the top 10 or at least be within 2-3 points of Prince. In any case, Smith's rating should only go up after a couple games if he's half the player we think he is.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='RL52TheGreatest' timestamp='1311272399' post='710661']
I wouldn't call it atrocious, but I would have liked to see Jimmy in the top 10 or at least be within 2-3 points of Prince. In any case, Smith's rating should only go up after a couple games if he's half the player we think he is.
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Ya I meant in relation to Amukamura's rating JSmith's is brutal. They played in the same conference and Amukamura was not the best cover corner.

[JO_75]

Didn't see this posted but figured to post it here. OS has a list of Top 10 Rookie Overalls based on Position.

Top 10 Rookie DB: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/496003-madden-nfl-12-rookie-ratings-top-ten-defensive-backs.html

Top 10 Rookie LB: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/496291-madden-nfl-12-rookie-ratings-top-ten-linebackers.html

Top 10 Rookie RB: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/495637-madden-nfl-12-rookie-ratings-top-ten-running-backs.html

Top 10 Rookie DL:
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/496295-madden-nfl-12-rookie-ratings-top-ten-defensive-linemen.html

Top 10 Rookie WR: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/495920-madden-nfl-12-rookie-ratings-top-ten-wide-receivers.html


What really surprised me was the Linebackers and how Brooks Reed was only a 69 and that Von Miller didn't get a 80. The Defensive Line and WR ratings surprised me, I mean especially Da'Quan Bowers who got a 74 and Clayborn who got a 78, wow is Tampa going to be a good team to play with in Madden. Great to see that AJ Green & Julio Jones stand out compared to the rest of the receivers, but Greg Little has a better rating than Torrey Smith who was taken a pick after him?

[3-4 Assault]

I see they have T. Smith rated at a overall 69. I'd be interested to see what his speed is ranked.