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[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1304277444' post='679036']
Raven why would you even think that Tyrod couldn't make it in the NFL as a QB when he has broken EVERY record at VT (including Michael Vick's) as a QB, won numerous ACC Championships and was recently voted the ACC's MVP?

and then you mention....Taylor could be "trade bait?" oh my goodness! Flacco is our guy BUT we need a backup IN CASE he goes down or is injured. Tyrod brings a element to the QB postion that Peyton, Brady or Flacco lacks. it is interesting though because when "Big Ben" scrambles out of the pocket and runs around....they (media and so-called experts) say "he is great and knows how to extend plays with his feet!" but, hey, if Tyrod Taylor does that.....which he does....he can't cut it in the NFL as a QB but should be a running back or wide receiver? gtfo!

~Mili
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College awards and records mean nothing in the NFL.

Yeah, Taylor could be trade bait if he proves to be somewhat capable in the NFL. We're a playoff team, we don't need an inexperienced back-up Quarterback, we need a veteran that can manage games if worst came to worst. Why wouldn't we use him to acquire players that would actually contribute to the team, as opposed to sitting on the bench holding a clipboard?

[organizedchaos007]

few more good videos. On a side note, we had a great draft..., we still have FA for any other needs (pass rush, Oline.

[b]Tandon Doss[/b][i][/i]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNdQtiNVgw

[b]Jimmy Smith[/b][i][/i]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rzaqPIyPtg

I personally think Doss is gonna be an incredibly good reciever. And Jimmy, looks so board sometimes, I actually see alot of upside for him to get better, after the coaches get ahould of him, and once he starts being challenged.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1304280613' post='679095']
living in VA, i am a true VA Tech fan. meaning, i have watched and recorded all their televised games! Tyrod is a beast at scrambling, bying time with his feet and throwing "accurate" passes to an open receiver on the run. [b]just like Ben does![/b] nothing different! his work speaks for itself:

[b]everyone needs to stop the hate! and stop "trying" to tear this young man down! [/b] Tyrod is a beast!

~Mili
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The difference is, Ben is 4 inches taller, roughly 20 heavier and has made those plays in the NFL.

Taylor isn't special. We've seen QBs like him before and most didn't do squat in the pros.

I'm happy Taylor is a Raven but I'm not going to assume he'll do much in the NFL because of what did at VT.

[Ed_Reed20]

I noticed the video of McPhee in the OP was just one play. Here's a short but sweet highlight video.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZmJWkcCfmc"]Link[/url]

[Bltravens]

[quote name='tweety' timestamp='1304233493' post='678699']
Pick 1(27) Jimmy Smith CB Colo : He will be better than Ladarius Webb
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So are Carr/Wilson/Foxworth. Smith can be better on on the field than all three of those combined.

[Bltravens]

Working off the Taylor stuff, Taylor is a project we're going to work on (another reason I wish we had an actual QB coach) hes got better tools than Troy Smith so its a project worth taking on in the 6th round. He's not going to be expected to contribute in the NFL right away anyway so I dont really understand the pessimism surrounding that pick. We have 1 QB on our roster, we took one that is going to give teams something else to think about if Taylor ever has to play and in the mean time work on his pocket presence and his ability to run a pro offense.

[Runnin Raven]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304286594' post='679190']
I noticed the video of McPhee in the OP was just one play. Here's a short but sweet highlight video.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZmJWkcCfmc"]Link[/url]
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Niiice.

[Bltravens]

Jah Reid actually looks alot better than I thought he would, in that tape at least against Georgia. He was the only guy actually blocking anybody half the time lol.

[Bltravens]

Allen looks like he could very well give Parmele a run for his roster spot.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1304291832' post='679241']
Allen looks like he could very well give Parmele a run for his roster spot.
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I just hope he doesn't turn out to be complete waste of a pick like Allen Patrick and Cedric Peerman were.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304286342' post='679187']
The difference is, Ben is 4 inches taller, roughly 20 heavier and has made those plays in the NFL.

Taylor isn't special. We've seen QBs like him before and most didn't do squat in the pros.

I'm happy Taylor is a Raven but I'm not going to assume he'll do much in the NFL because of what did at VT.
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I totally agree Ben is a different QB, but Taylor does extend plays just like Ben does, and his elusiveness in the pocket helps him escape tackles just as Ben does with his size and strength.

And while I'd agree Ben has shown superior accuracy, Taylor is a developing QB. Every year he showed improvement at VT and was pretty accurate with pretty good arm strength. His ability to read defenses soared and likely isn't done doing so, and if he fixes his throwing motion his accuracy and arm strength should only increase as well.

And, imo, his potential at WR and possibly even RB due to his running ability only further his worth.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1304283679' post='679150']
[b]College awards and records mean nothing in the NFL.[/b]

Yeah, Taylor could be trade bait if he proves to be somewhat capable in the NFL. We're a playoff team, we don't need an inexperienced back-up Quarterback, [b]we need a veteran that can manage games if worst came to worst. [/b]Why wouldn't we use him to acquire players that would actually contribute to the team, as opposed to sitting on the bench holding a clipboard?
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game film does! that's how these young players are scouted and then ultimately drafted due to what they can bring to a "Pro" team! smh!


[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304286342' post='679187']
The difference is, Ben is 4 inches taller, roughly 20 heavier and [b]has made those plays in the NFL. [/b][b]Taylor isn't special. We've seen QBs like him before and most didn't do squat in the pros.[/b]

[b]I'm happy Taylor is a Raven but I'm not going to assume he'll do much in the NFL because of what did at VT.[/b][/quote]

Ben made those throws in the NFL cause TYROD JUST GOT DRAFTED! sheesh!

and...of course he is special! all the young men that got draftd are! that's why you, me and the rest of the posters on this board are sitting at home watching the draft and the games instead of actually being on the field playing or getting drafted ourselves. lol

and.....we've also seen QBs and other positions that everyone was jocking and pubbing up in the media as the next great thing and they didn't do squat in the pros either!

evidently, Ozzie and the crew know more of what they are doing than all of us and while we can nic-pic this or that in these young kids games....who are we really, to say who will or who won't be a bust or contribute greatly at the pro level? they haven't even practiced yet! smh! give these young kids a sporting chance.

~Mili

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1304293350' post='679250']
I totally agree Ben is a different QB, but Taylor does extend plays just like Ben does, and his elusiveness in the pocket helps him escape tackles just as Ben does with his size and strength.

And while I'd agree Ben has shown superior accuracy, Taylor is a developing QB. Every year he showed improvement at VT and was pretty accurate with pretty good arm strength. His ability to read defenses soared and likely isn't done doing so, and if he fixes his throwing motion his accuracy and arm strength should only increase as well.

And, imo, his potential at WR and possibly even RB due to his running ability only further his worth.
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All of that is true and are reasons why, again, I'm happy the Ravens drafted him.

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1304293655' post='679257']
Ben made those throws in the NFL cause TYROD JUST GOT DRAFTED! sheesh!

and...of course he is special! all the young men that got draftd are! that's why you, me and the rest of the posters on this board are sitting at home watching the draft and the games instead of actually being on the field playing or getting drafted ourselves. lol

and.....we've also seen QBs and other positions that everyone was jocking and pubbing up in the media as the next great thing and they didn't do squat in the pros either!

evidently, Ozzie and the crew know more of what they are doing than all of us and while we can nic-pic this or that in these young kids games....who are we really, to say who will or who won't be a bust or contribute greatly at the pro level? they haven't even practiced yet! smh! give these young kids a sporting chance.

~Mili
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My point was Ben has shown the ability to make those plays in the NFL and Taylor hasn't. Obviously Tyrod hasn't had the opportunity to show what he can do in the league yet but that's exactly why your initial criticism of the media praising Ben's elusiveness and play-extending abilities while feeling Taylor may not be more than backup in the NFL makes no sense.

They're at completely different stages of their careers and I don't think you can really compare them, even if it's just on how they extend plays, because there are numerous other areas Ben is simply better at.

By "special", I meant in comparison to current and past pro prospects. I can bring up any number of QBs that have or had similar skills to Taylor.

Your point is?

I simply voiced my opinion on what I think he'll do as a pro. This is a forum and I'm entitled to do that.

[RoflDogs]

It's offensive to Tyrod Taylor to compare him to Troy Smith (as in a prospect perspective, not a college player perspective). Tyrod's better than Troy at everything

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304295169' post='679282']
My point was Ben has shown the ability to make those plays in the NFL and Taylor hasn't. Obviously Tyrod hasn't had the opportunity to show what he can do in the league yet [b]but that's exactly why your initial criticism of the media praising Ben's elusiveness and play-extending abilities while feeling Taylor may not be more than backup in the NFL makes no sense.

They're at completely different stages of their careers and I don't think you can really compare them, even if it's just on how they extend plays, because there are numerous other areas Ben is simply better at.[/b]By "special", I meant in comparison to current and past pro prospects. I can bring up any number of QBs that have or had similar skills to Taylor.

Your point is?

I simply voiced my opinion on what I think he'll do as a pro. This is a forum and I'm entitled to do that.
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Ed, i know this is a forum for opinions. we all have one and are free to voice it. i definitely voice my own and i am never swayed by others viewpoints or opinions in here. i think for myself! so i wasn't i bothered by yours.

now, you say my criticism of the media in reference to Ben's gameplay in comparison to Tyrod's doesn't make sense? to me it does! especially, when everyone seems to want to knock Tyrod's running or scrambling ability or his athleticism. and as a result of it....they want to call or attempt to "label" him as a running back or wide receiver. othe young man is a QB! orr, they'll say that he won't do "squat" at the pro level when this young man hasn't even taken a snap at that level yet. and yet, Ozzie and company have seen things in him that made them draft him! interesting!

now, i brought Ben's "style" of gameplay into the equation that is similiar to Tyrod's (not Ben's entire body of work as a Pro-there is no comparison there) because it is interesting to see how that when Ben runs, scrambles and throws on the run; the sports announcers, critics and "so-called" experts say that he's "extending" the plays! or, "Ben is buying time with his feet and he is a master at that!" or, "Ben, creates plays out of nothing!"

and yet.....here's is a young talented and gift young man (Taylor....NOT...Troy Smith) that demonstrates the same traits and qualities at the collegiate level and yet, we are quick to knock his gameplay and say he can't cut it in the NFL as a dual-threat QB when there are already successful prototypes for that in both Ben and Vick (last season)? That's my point!

~Mili

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304292367' post='679244']
I just hope he doesn't turn out to be complete waste of a pick like Allen Patrick and Cedric Peerman were.
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lol Cedric Peerman, we cut him and he makes the Bengals 53 man roster....unreal lol

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1304297099' post='679321']
Ed, i know this is a forum for opinions. we all have one and are free to voice it. i definitely voice my own and i am never swayed by others viewpoints or opinions. i think for myself! so i am not nor was i bothered by yours.

so you say my criticism of the media in reference to Ben's gameplay in comparison to Tyrod's doesn't make sense? interesting! especially, when everyone seems to want to knock Tyrod's running ability or his athleticsim. and as a result of it....they want to call him a running back or wide receiver. or, he won't do "squat" at the pro level and he hasn't even taken a snap yet. wow!

listen....the young man is a QB! he's a QB with great athleticism. something Peyton, Brady and even Flacco don't have! i brought Ben's "gameplay" and "style" into the equation (not his entire body of work) cause it is interesting to see how that when Ben runs, the sports announcers and "so-called" experts says that he's "extending" the plays! or, "Ben is buying time with his feet and he is a master at that!"

and yet.....here is a young man (Taylor) that demonstrates the same traits and qualities at the collegiate level and yet, we are quick to knock his gameplay and say he can't cut it in the NFL? unbelievable! Ben does the same thing and is successful! That's my point! and to be honest...to me...that type of thinking is pure B.S. in my opinion!

~Mili
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You're exaggerating. I haven't seen anyone knock Taylor's running ability or athleticism. And not everyone feels he needs to transition to another position.

I clearly said there have been QBs [i]like[/i] Taylor who didn't do "squat" in the NFL. That doesn't mean I don't think he can or won't find success though. The track record of those similar to him isn't good but there are always exceptions.

Again, you're simply looking at one attribute. The ability to elude the pass rush is one thing. Being able to do that, while keeping your eyes down-field and then make a big-league throw is another.

No one can knock Taylor's ability to scramble. It's others attributes, ones you really need to succeed in the NFL that have been questioned.

[RoflDogs]

Just watched the Miss St. vs Michigan game (ESPN3 is a great tool btw). McPhee looked good, but he couldn't get a tick on the stat sheet because of Rich Rod's terrible offense.

McPhee showed a lot of burst and speed outside than I remembered. People say that he's really slow and such, but I thought he had good speed. He also dropped into coverage a few times, and he looked very good in space.

I'd say he should be an OLB on this team, but I'm not really sure that's how the team will use him

[indianstick]

Who is your favorite/least favorite?
My favorties are jimmy smith, torrey smith, doss and tyrod taylor

Who will start?
Jimmy smith, jah reid and torrey smith could start the fastest (in that order)..i think doss can eventually be our third wr

Do any remind you of other players past/present?
Jimmy smith- C mac for sure, the size, speed, physicality and swagger scream Cmac

Torrey smith- I can see the stallworth comparisons, he should be able to be the bigplay threat we need to compliment boldin

Tandon doss- TJ housh, thats the first thing i thought of when i saw highlights of him

Tyrod taylor- Dennis dixon and a splash of mike vick. I liked this pick because tyrod can actually throw the ball. He should be able to be a good back up and a nice developmental project.

What concerns do you have about any of them?
Jimmy smith- After watching the interviews with jimmy smith and the FO talking about him, i lost doubt that he'll handle him self as a model citizen.

Torrey smith- My concern with torrey smith are his hands, and is he able to make the tough catches he will have to in the nfl

Jah reid- Is he going to be able to start from day 1 and will be able to hold off above average pass rushers off the edge

Anthony allen- will he make the final roster and be able to spell rice

Give OZ a grade!!!
B+- i liked this draft a lot, yeah there were some picks that a lot of us wish would of been used to address otehr needs but the fact is that none of these picks were a reach, we really got value out of all the picks. At first, i was confused about the chykie brown pick but we def needed size in our secondary and the FO is confident he will be able to contribute in special teams. I'm glad we picked up a back up qb, and the thing i like about tyrod is that he wants to play qb and hes going to put in the work to improve where he has to

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='RoflDogs' timestamp='1304299212' post='679353']
Just watched the Miss St. vs Michigan game (ESPN3 is a great tool btw). McPhee looked good, but he couldn't get a tick on the stat sheet because of Rich Rod's terrible offense.

McPhee showed a lot of burst and speed outside than I remembered. People say that he's really slow and such, but I thought he had good speed. He also dropped into coverage a few times, and he looked very good in space.

[b]I'd say he should be an OLB on this team, but I'm not really sure that's how the team will use him[/b]
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I hope they do. His strength and ability to anchor are pluses but he doesn't look like a 3-4 DE to me.

[Yum Chickens]

Who is your favorite/least favorite?

Favorite: Jimmy Smith. I was always screaming at our secondary last season whenever I watched a game.
Least Favorite: Little bias, but T Taylor.. I dunno.. that one just doesn't fit me well, no specific reason so don't hate me =)


Who will start?: Both Smiths better start, and I hope the tackle does as well.


Do any remind you of other players past/present?: Nope


What concerns do you have about any of them?: Jimmy's is completely overplayed by the media.


Give OZ a grade!!!

A PLUS

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='ravensfan160' timestamp='1304283031' post='679140']
Good point. I forgot about that. It still wouldn't have taken a lot to trade up. It only cost us a 6th rounder to trade up 5 spots in the third round to get Reid. We probably could have traded up 3 spots in the 5th round for just our 7th rounder.
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But it wouldn't have been 3 spots, it would have been more like 18 spots because we absolutely could not move from this comp picks. The Ravens would have picked back to back in the 5 no matter what. So we would have had to trade from 180 up to at least 161. If the Eagles didn't want to trade, it would have been the Bears and we definitely didn't want that again. The next team would have been the Patriots and they most certainly would have wanted a pick for next year.

So it was kind of hard to move up, i'm not saying it wasn't worth it or the Ravens didn't try. I'm sure if they could trade one of those comp picks they would have went up to get Carter. But there hands were tied pretty much. So they had to sit and hope the Steelers didn't take him

[Guest deltaraven]

[quote name='Mahatma_Sloth' timestamp='1304223461' post='678591']
All Picks are also links to vids of the pick

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQeLrLog-yQ"]Pick 1(27) Jimmy Smith CB Colo[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A_6n_eoI2o"]Pick 2(58) Torry Smith WR MD[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltGHVtRSg_E&feature=related"]pick 3(85) Jah Reid OT/G Cent Fla[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAR8ATXD-X4&feature=related"]Pick 4(123) Tandon Doss WR Ind[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb3BNXAHyRQ"]Pick 5(164) Chykie Brown CB Tx[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu3a3ddcRzM"]Pick 6(165) Pernell McPhee DT Miss St[/url]
[url="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81f223da/2011-Draft-Profile-QB-Tyrod-Taylor-Virginia-Tech?r_src=ramp"]Pick 7(180) Tyrod Taylor QB VaT[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB2A7YQzeWQ"]Pick 8(225) Allen Anthony RB GaT[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZmJWkcCfmc"]Found a better vid for Pernell McPhee click here[/url]

Who is your favorite/least favorite?
Who will start?
Do any remind you of other players past/present?
What concerns do you have about any of them?
Give OZ a grade!!!
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Great draft Ozzy- Taylor is the only one i think Id have some reservations with -the rest look good

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304301754' post='679403']
I hope they do. His strength and ability to anchor are pluses but he doesn't look a 3-4 DE to me.
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I thought Haloti Ngata was more of a 3 technique in a 4-3 coming out of Oregon. But he's turned into a dominate DE in the 3-4, so looks aren't everything

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304298679' post='679348']
[b]You're exaggerating. I haven't seen anyone knock Taylor's running ability or athleticism. And not everyone feels he needs to transition to another position. [/b]
I clearly said there have been QBs [i]like[/i] Taylor who didn't do "squat" in the NFL. That doesn't mean I don't think he can or won't find success though. The track record of those similar to him isn't good but there are always exceptions.

[b]Again, you're simply looking at one attribute. The ability to elude the pass rush is one thing. Being able to do that, while keeping your eyes down-field and then make a big-league throw is another. [/b]No one can knock Taylor's ability to scramble. It's others attributes, ones you really need to succeed in the NFL that have been questioned.
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1st...i don't exagerate! go back over the forums and re-read the posts bruh! quite a few people have said that Taylor could be trade bait or is just a glorified running back or maybe he should switch to receiver. smh!

2nd...i am not the one focusing on one attribute! i've NEVER just focused on or limited Tyrod's ability to just being a scrambler! others have done that! Not me! listen....i am a Virginian and a HUGE Virginia Tech Hokies fan man! i've watched and recorded every televised game of the Hokies. plus, Taylor is my local homeboy here in VA (the Hampton Roads/Tidewater area) so, i already know he has a cannon for an arm! i already know that he has improved upon and can further improve upon his pocket-passing (he proved that this past season). and....in my comparison to his "style" of gameplay with Ben's? again....i already know that Tyrod has the ability to extend plays with his feet while at the same time looking down field to make a big time throw! he's done it numerous times in his collegiate career. that's nothing new to him.

now, as far as the other attributes you mentioned? which i agree upon. isn't that what NFL coaching is for? i think so! with QB coaching at the NFL level, his other attributes should greatly improve. but let's be honest here......Flacco has been in the league 4 years and has had that NFL coaching and that cat STILL does a lot of stuff wrong! go figure! if given an opportunity....Tyrod will once again....have to prove his critics and haters wrong!

~Mili

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1304304473' post='679451']
I thought Haloti Ngata was more of a 3 technique in a 4-3 coming out of Oregon. But he's turned into a dominate DE in the 3-4, so looks aren't everything
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That's true. McPhee's long arms and strength could certainly help him excel as a 5 technique in the 3-4 but he'd have to add bulk to play the position effectively in the NFL. Plus, with Redding, Ngata, Kruger, Jones and McKinney(on occasion) on the team, I think he'll be given a shot at rush LB.

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1304305343' post='679475']
1st...i don't exagerate! go back over the forums and re-read the posts bruh! quite a few people have said that Taylor could be trade bait or is just a glorified running back or maybe he should switch to receiver. smh!

2nd...i am not the one focusing on one attribute! i've NEVER just focused on or limited Tyrod's ability to just scramble! others have done that! Not me! listen....i am a Virginian and a HUGE Virginia Tech Hokie fan bruh! i already know Tyrod has a BIG arm! i already know Tyrod has and can further improve upon his passing accuracy from the pocket. i already know that Tyrod has the ability....like Ben....to extend plays by scrambling while at the same time.....looking down field to make a big time throw! he's done it numerous times in his career!

as far as the other attributes you mention...that's what coaching is for! that will help him improve. but let's be honest......Flacco has been in the league 4 years and that cat STILL does a lot of stuff wrong! smh!

~Mili
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You exaggerated by saying "everyone" when mentioning his critics. And I have yet to see anyone question the guy's running skills, or athleticism.

A QB extending plays and making plays in college doesn't mean he can do it to the same degree in the NFL.

NFL coaching should help him but some skills are innate and others can only develop with experience.

No one was talking about Joe but I'm glad you brought him up. Despite starting over 50 games, like you said, there are still parts of his game that are inconsistent and haven't developed as quickly as one would hope.

[ravensfan2430]

I see the Doss- Housh comparison.

My prediction is by the end of the season Doss will be #3 on the depth chart.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='organizedchaos007' timestamp='1304285280' post='679170']
few more good videos. On a side note, we had a great draft..., we still have FA for any other needs (pass rush, Oline.

[b]Tandon Doss[/b][i][/i]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNdQtiNVgw

[b]Jimmy Smith[/b][i][/i]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rzaqPIyPtg

I personally think Doss is gonna be an incredibly good reciever. And Jimmy, looks so board sometimes, I actually see alot of upside for him to get better, after the coaches get ahould of him, and once he starts being challenged.
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What I like most about that Jimmy Smith video, is that his team was getting crushed, and Smith played hard to the end. I really like that kind of fight.

[Alexir]

Who is your favorite/least favorite?
[b]Favorite: Jimmy Smith. Least: Chykie Brown. Hate the Brown pick, we should of went after Quan Sturdivant, Tyler Sash, Greg Jones or Brandon Fusco. Not a huge fan of anything after our first 3 picks really.[/b]

Who will start? [b]Jimmy Smith. Ozzie did the right thing in getting a receiver but Mason and Boldin will remain starters in 2 WR sets. Jah Reid will compete with Cousins and Harewood and they have the advantage of a training camp under the belts. Dunno if Reid will have that luxury.[/b]

Do any remind you of other players past/present?[b] Jimmy Smith=CMac, Torrey Smith=Braylon Edwards/Sidney Rice Hybrid, Tyrod Taylor=Suggs Package[/b]

What concerns do you have about any of them? [b]Being able to contribute immediately. Only 1 guy will probably start out of all 8 picks. We haven't had more than one drafted rookie start since 2007.[/b]
Give OZ a grade!!! [b]C for Average. A lot of head scratcher's in this draft outside the top 3, even moving up to get Reid was a "huh" moment. We didn't address Pass Rusher at all. I would of liked us to go after Steven Friday instead of Allen personally. No center was addressed yet we got Doss and Brown, 2 people who are headed straight to the PS. Not my favorite draft of Ozzie's but then again it's been a while since he has impressed me with a draft outside the first 2 picks.[/b]
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[b]KINDLE! Get healthy man!
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[Bltravens]

I dont know where some guys here got off saying Smith wasnt a willing tackler. Those couple of videos posted shows him seeking out the ball carrier, and he actually prevents a TD in a goal line stand.