2011 UDFA's

[omar586]

i hope the oz signs former hokies DT john graves and RB daren evans, what u guys think ? who u guys think we should sign

[Token]

Deunta Williams or Deandre McDaniel
Mario Harvey
Mark Herzlich
Kris O'Dowd or Jake Kirpatrick
Steven Friday

[Yooniboy]

Jeffrey Maehl (WR)
dude was pretty nice in oregon
nice hands, really a wes welker-esque player

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1304221526' post='678566']
Deunta Williams or Deandre McDaniel
Mario Harvey
Mark Herzlich
Kris O'Dowd or Jake Kirpatrick
Steven Friday
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I cant believe not one of those guys from the list didnt get drafted at all. Herzlich went from a top 10 pick to undrafted in 2 years...man

[Yooniboy]

Devine, Noel RB 5'8" 179 West Virginia
small frame back, great acceleration, like a Sproles type, but a tad faster

[Token]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1304223505' post='678592']
I cant believe not one of those guys from the list didnt get drafted at all. Herzlich went from a top 10 pick to undrafted in 2 years...man
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Yea, I feel bad for him.
+ I think he's the first player to accept an invitation to the draft and go undrafted.

[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1304224989' post='678618']
Yea, I feel bad for him.
+ I think he's the first player to accept an invitation to the draft and go undrafted.
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wow...are you sure on that? he got accepted to an invitation and to not be picked out of 254 players. yeah...that's is not funny.

[ravensfan160]

How about Tim Barnes a center from Missouri. He's the 2nd rated center behind Wisniewski and he went undrafted. Third best if you consider Pouncey a center. Si.com has him listed as a guard.

[jdynamite]

I see a lot of names I wanted to mention already on thread...

I like
RBs d.Evans, N.Devine, Graig Cooper

CB Kendric Burney

Safety Will Hill,DeAndre McDaniel,Deunta Williams

DT Ian Williams

WR Terrence Toliver , Darvin Adams

QB Pat Devlin

[ed.s52]

Another guy not mentioned that I really like is SS Joe Legefed. Besides Searcy he was my favorite later round SS.

And we NEED to get us some OT Willie Smith. The dude literally has potential to be a Pro Bowl Tackle. Extremely raw but GINORMOUS upside

[BabydollFlacco5]

Mark Herzlich - LB - I want us to sign Mark Herzlich. This guy may not be the Round #1 Talent he once was .. But this guy can still Play. He has Awesome Instincts and is still a hard hitter. Docter's say he should only continue to get better and regain his strength. The fact he wasnt drafted really makes me Sick !

Brandon Bair - DE - He is a Delvelopmental 3-4 DE and has shown great upside with the abilty to rush the passer. Many compared him to a more unpolished version of Watt.

Deandre McDaniel - SS - Talented SS, Whom I am shocked never got drafted.

Nick Bellore - ILB - Interesting ILB, Strong and a Hard worker. He could be Interesting to take a closer look at.

Tim Barnes - C - He is very Underated and He could provide us with a Solid Back up center and then eventually take over for Birk.

Ricardo Lockette - WR - Yes, I know we already drafted 2 WR's Plus we have a roster full of them now .. But there is No Denying his speed.

John Clay - RB - He just seems to really fit us Well when I watch his tape.

Zach Hurd - OG - He is Delvelopmental, but has potential Inside at OG. Since our O-line is shaky .. even with the addition of OT Jah Reid, I cant see where this would be a Bad pick up.

Noel Devine - RB - A Very Small RB, But with some of the fastest feet youll see. He could provide us a nice depth at RB to Rice, etc. Plus he seems like a solid ST pick.

Alex Linnenkohl - C - Another Center, who like Barnes .. Could provide us with depth at Center and fill in if we need him too. Then possibly take over for Birk in a year or 2.

Jeron Johnson - SS - Another talented SS, Who could contribute on ST right away.

Joe Lefeged - SS - A Talented SS .. Who knows what Zibby will decide to do with Boxing/Football ??/

Dane Sanzenbacher - WR - He is a WR with Averege Speed, But great hands and nice routes.

Terrance Toliver - WR - Solid WR. Although I think we have enough depth at WR - I figured I'd throw these guys name in too.

[BloodRaven]

Joshua Portis, QB, unlike the remaining QB's Portis is fearless under pressure and has ideal physical tools for the Air Coryell (big arm, athleticism). Raw.

Craig Cooper, HB, explosive and versatile dual threat/third down type, can play slot and has special teams ability.

Henry Hynoski, FB, versatile, smart, good blocker, adequate hands, special teams ability.

Willie Smith, LT, raw, athletic former TE. Needs coaching/strength but has ideal tools and is a good development prospect with upside.

Jarriel King, LT, like Smith has athletic potential as a pro LT and has lower body strength, draft stock fell because of heart defect.

Justin Boren, G/C, similar to Jason Brown, plays low and powerful but with limited range, stock fell due to his departure from Michigan.

[b]Note: Not a fan of any remaining DL prospects.[/b]

Pierre Allen, OLB, athletic enough to play OLB at 265, can shed, closes fast and has a relentless motor. Good character.

Mark Herzlich, ILB, smart linebacker with intangibles and good character. Battle with cancer sapped a lot of his athleticism.

Kendrick Burney, CB, undersized but smart player with instincts and ball skills. Nickle/dime/ST potential. Stock fell due to suspension.

[raylewislapsu]

[u]Mario Harvey[/u]
This guy wasn't drafted and I think we should definately give him a shot in camp. Mario Harvey, ILB out of Marshall, at 5' 11 257 he ran a 4.43 40 and had 27 reps at 225 at his pro day. Those are insame numbers for a guy that size, but what is baffling to me is his production. He had 421 tackles during his 4 years with 144 his senior year alone. He also had 9 sacks this season with a ton of TFL. Basically at that level of play he dominated, and he has crazy speed, I do not understand how no team even took a shot at him with a 7th Rd. pick. It sounds like he is versatile, can play inside or outside, and is a solid special teams player. He has to be a no-brainer and can compete with Ellerbe and Phillips for a roster spot.

[u]Kristofer O'Dowd[/u]
Another guy that wasn't drafter that has great physical measurements and college production. Kristofer O'Dowd C, USC 6'4 305. I know he had injury issues his senior year but he has great size and athletism, not to mention Matt Birk is the only true center on our roster and he isn't getting any younger. I really hope we can get this guy into camp.

[u]Deunta Williams[/u]
A big safety 6'2 210 out of UNC that was initially a wide receiver and has great ball skills. He has upside and can address a potential position of need pending the CBA.

[Clutch Ravens]

For such a "weak" draft class, this is one of the best UDFA classes I can remember.

[gregreid5]

I cant believe McDaniel the safety out of clemson went undrafted. We need to call him the second we are allowed and tell him to come learn how to play safety from ed reed. Both him and Deunta Williams.

I also agree on Burney, Odowd, and Darren Evans. Also Tolliver and Darvin Adams.

How did all these guys go undrafted? I really think they need to add some rounds to the draft. Tons of guys I would want the ravens to draft instead of scramble for

[ravensfan160]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1304260328' post='678787']
For such a "weak" draft class, this is one of the best UDFA classes I can remember.
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I agree and that's because teams were reaching for need like I've never seen. It was silly at times.

[BloodRaven]

Also GM's were taking players nobody has ever heard of, either they know something we don't or their scouts don't know what they're doing.

[Corvus]

Hate to rain on everyone's parade, but I was back into football for about 4 days. Now that the lockout is back on due to conservative judges who back big business, I don't care..I was surprised no one took Herzlich with a 7th rounder at least, dude deserved to be drafted...

[T3hRaven]

The top five guys we need to pursue are:
1. DeAndre McDaniel
2. Deunta Wiliams
3. Mark Herzlich
4. Pierre Allen
5. Jake Kirkpatrick

They all address a specific need on this team. I would assume McDaniel fell because of character concerns, but he was one of the most talented safeties in the draft and could easily be a replacement to Landry. Williams fell because of his injury history, but has good ball skills and could develop into Reed's successor at the free safety position. Herzlich is still recovering from cancer, but he has a good football IQ and the high character that Harbaugh craves while adding depth at the OLB position. Pierre Allen played DE for Nebraska and was fairly productive, and at 273 I can still see him playing OLB in our 3-4 and rushing the passer. Jake Kirkpatrick is the center with the most upside and the least amount of injury concerns, by my estimation. Any of the remaining centers would be acceptable, but I'm hopping on the Kirkpatrick bandwagon.

[SpeedKills]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1304268262' post='678859']
The top five guys we need to pursue are:
1. DeAndre McDaniel
2. Deunta Wiliams
3. Mark Herzlich
4. Pierre Allen
5. Jake Kirkpatrick

They all address a specific need on this team. I would assume McDaniel fell because of character concerns, but he was one of the most talented safeties in the draft and could easily be a replacement to Landry. Williams fell because of his injury history, but has good ball skills and could develop into Reed's successor at the free safety position. Herzlich is still recovering from cancer, but he has a good football IQ and the high character that Harbaugh craves while adding depth at the OLB position. Pierre Allen played DE for Nebraska and was fairly productive, and at 273 I can still see him playing OLB in our 3-4 and rushing the passer. Jake Kirkpatrick is the center with the most upside and the least amount of injury concerns, by my estimation. Any of the remaining centers would be acceptable, but I'm hopping on the Kirkpatrick bandwagon.
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*Cough* What character concerns? McDaniel did absolutely nothing to get the "red flag" tag in college. He's brazen, yes - but a great player.

The guys we should get are
1. DeAndre McDaniel/Deunta Williams. A great replacement for Dawan if he falls flat, or is injured.

2. Mark Herzlich. Kid could be a great defensive leader for us.

3. Kristofer O'Dowd.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='SpeedKills' timestamp='1304268803' post='678873']
*Cough* What character concerns? McDaniel did absolutely nothing to get the "red flag" tag in college. He's brazen, yes - but a great player.[/quote]

McDaniel was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend and settled it before trial. That seems like a character red flag to me.

[SpeedKills]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1304269085' post='678878']
McDaniel was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend and settled it before trial. That seems like a character red flag to me.
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Huh... I was not aware of this. :/

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='SpeedKills' timestamp='1304269207' post='678879']
Huh... I was not aware of this. :/
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It happened in 2008, so maybe that's why, but from what I could find it seemed like a pretty serious incident. I would have thought McDaniel's talent outweighed the risk in the later rounds, but apparently I was wrong.

[Ravenslifer]

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Deunta Williams or Deandre McDaniel
Mario Harvey
Mark Herzlich
Kris O'Dowd or Jake Kirpatrick
Steven Friday
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I agree with every one of those guys.

[Ozzsome]

I would love to see a healthy competition at RB between darren evans and allen, may the better win if we sign evans.
Friday would provide a outside rusher we are looking for. Kirkpatrick could be our future center, still wonder why he wasnt drafted
herzlich would be cool but i think we have the same kind of a player in jason phillips
mcdaniel would be a good pick up, but i think the FO trusts zibby to handle the majority of the snaps and play well if we dont re-sign landry

but i wouldnt mind getting all of them and even more prospects

[Bea]

[quote name='Bea' timestamp='1304399637' post='680388']
damnit. I hit that stupid button on my mouse that does the back and forward and I lost everything. I swear I'll smash it into a million peices. It's all it ever does. Most every team will make him have a competition with their incumbent kicker anyway.

DeAndre McDaniel - SS: I don't know what will happen with Landry. If he goes it makes it easier to sign but we might look at the FA market and get experience. He's clearly got talent and is competent at least when it comes to handling the ball. Put him up against Zibby and Nakamura and see who comes out on top. The only problem with him is if a SS weak team comes in. Then we can't compete as he might want to just jump straight in. That said he might perfer to join a good team and fight for a spot there. Never know. Also see Joe Lefeged.

Mark Herzlich - LB: He was one of the best LBs in college. He got cancer. He beat it. Cut Jason Phillips and give him his job. Simple. If he sucks it's still better than having someone that has done nothing in two years. Also, Ray Lewis, big attraction in terms of both working with him and getting the opportunity to replace him. Soon.

Kai Forbath - K: Competition for Cundiff in the offseason. Doesn't hurt. If he wants to prove he's good enough he can't do worse than taking on someone already in the NFL.

Terrence Toliver - WR: Had a crappy QB. Has talent. Mason is old. Hopefully he'd see that as a chance to work for a spot on the roster in the very near future. He must know he's going to have to be developed wherever he goes. Might as well go to a good team that's going places.

Noel Devine - RB: Change of pace when compared to Rice. That is all. I feel he would have his uses on our roster, especially against tiring defences or later in games. All reward no risk as far as I'm concerned. Has return ability too. Might be nice to have two potentially really good returners in Torrey Smith and Devine.

Kris O'Dowd/All the other C's - C: Need to replace Birk at some point and he's a clever guy. Not the best athelete and has had injury woes but like Devine, all reward and no risk. I'd also look at all the other decent C's that went undrafted (Beeler etc). Who do we even have at C now? I don't know.

Mario Harvey - LB: See thread.
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Didn't know there was two threads.