Who Do You Want Drafted Next?

[Perfekt]

Im really hoping that with our 2nd pick that we Casey Matthews. In the 3rd we can get a decent WR cuz the talent is all about the same. We need help with our pass rush an I think we are fine with Ngata, Suggs, Cody, an Redding on the line. Just wanted to see what everyone else is thinking?

[AwakenTheDemon]

There's a thread like this going on in the Draft Section:
[url="http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/36007-who-do-we-go-after-with-our-second-rounder/"]Who Do We Go After With Our Second Rounder[/url]

I'm hoping for a receiver, personally. Cobb, Young, or even Hankerson.

[Perfekt]

I didnt kno maybe they will merge this one for me then. I wouldnt mind Hankerson because of his frame an build but I really would rather address our defense because our offense is young. Plus like I said we can get one of these guys in the 3rd round. I think Matthews could come in an play behind JJ because i dont see Kindle returning just yet.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Perfekt' timestamp='1304087323' post='674151']
I didnt kno maybe they will merge this one for me then. I wouldnt mind Hankerson because of his frame an build but I really would rather address our defense because our offense is young. Plus like I said we can get one of these guys in the 3rd round. I think Matthews could come in an play behind JJ because i dont see Kindle returning just yet.
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Our receivers are not young though, that's the area of concern. The team can't wait and hope they land a hidden gem in the third and fourth rounds, outside of Little who may or may not be there.

[BohBalmerOsbohs]

Brooks Reed- pass rush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32KAqii4lrk

if not him, Torrey Smith is a solid WR

[AwakenTheDemon]

I'll second Reed if he makes it all the way to us, but I wouldn't touch Torrey Smith with a twenty foot pole. I doubt Smith makes it all the way to 58 though, anyways. Although I wouldn't be surprised, he's incredibly overrated.

[Perfekt]

I kind understand where your coming from ATD but I would still rather have Matthews then Reed although I would take Reed if Matthews isnt there. We got David Reed in the 5th i think an look he was instant help on ST an i think that he could be good on offense if given the chance. Hes not the biggest player or the fastest but he has good field vision an makes tough catchs.

Mason an Boldin will be here an you kno Cam isnt going to use the offense correct anyways so why waste a high pick on a player that will not see the field is how i feel.

[PurpleandBlackBlood]

trade up in the second round for leonard hankerson

[Militant X 1]

we need to go get our younger and faster deep threat at the WR spot next!

~Mili

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Perfekt' timestamp='1304089832' post='674216']
I kind understand where your coming from ATD but I would still rather have Matthews then Reed although I would take Reed if Matthews isnt there. [b]We got David Reed in the 5th i think an look he was instant help on ST an i think that he could be good on offense if given the chance.[/b] Hes not the biggest player or the fastest but he has good field vision an makes tough catchs.

Mason an Boldin will be here an you kno Cam isnt going to use the offense correct anyways so why waste a high pick on a player that will not see the field is how i feel.
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Reed was definitely a spark on special teams, I truly hope he's the return guy we've been looking for. And while he did make an impression during the offseason last year, he wouldn't be the first to turn heads in camp then fail to earn his way into a game capacity when given the chance (Marcus Smith and Justin Harper come to mind). Granted, I feel as if Reed has more potential than either of those two, and he his foot in the door with his return contributions, so that's definitely a plus for him.

The ideal (in my opinion) route would be to grab a potential future #1 or 2 in the second round (Cobb, Young, Hankerson) or Little in the third (if possible). I feel as if Reed has the ability to turn into a good slot receiver, so we'd have addressed two spots in our future receiving corp. However, I couldn't be upset with picking Houston or Reed either.

[Perfekt]

I can totally agree with you because I feel the same way with our luck with WRs which is all the more reason im pushing for Matthews. I know were old at WR but think Mason an Boldin are both going to be here an with Reed in the slot its not really that much of a need. We need help at Linebacker before WR cuz we can always find help from free agents. We still need to find a backup QB as well since Buldger will be in AZ. It wouldnt surprise me if we pull a slick move an grab a qb in the 3rd either.

[AwakenTheDemon]

I doubt we'd take a quarterback in the third, honestly. Regardless of whether Bulger leaves or stays, if we draft one it'd have to be in the later rounds. There's just way too many other positions of greater need to address, depending on what goes down in the second. We could either raid a quarterback from free agency or see who ends up an undrafted rookie.

[-Truth-]

Casey Mathews? He's slated to be a 4th/5th round selection. Why would we take him in the 2nd?

[berad]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304093735' post='674289']
I doubt we'd take a quarterback in the third, honestly. Regardless of whether Bulger leaves or stays, if we draft one it'd have to be in the later rounds. There's just way too many other positions of greater need to address, depending on what goes down in the second. We could either raid a quarterback from free agency or see who ends up an undrafted rookie.
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Yeah, I'd be pretty peeved if we picked a QB any time before the 5th... maybe even 6th. Agree with everything you said.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304088796' post='674194']
I'll second Reed if he makes it all the way to us, but I wouldn't touch Torrey Smith with a twenty foot pole. I doubt Smith makes it all the way to 58 though, anyways. Although I wouldn't be surprised, he's incredibly overrated.
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Why? Torrey Smith is a freak athlete with an incredible work ethic. Look who has been throwing the ball to him, so don't judge based off numbers. Hes not DHB.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='heapitup247' timestamp='1304095178' post='674320']
Why? Torrey Smith is a freak athlete with an incredible work ethic. Look who has been throwing the ball to him, so don't judge based off numbers. Hes not DHB.
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I'm not "judging based off numbers", I've watched quite a few Maryland games. I've watched Smith first hand and I'm not impressed. Quite a few of fans here aren't impressed. Smith has been discussed to death on this board, he's not as fast as people who love him claim him to be, he's not overly explosive, his routes are sloppy at worst and adequate at best, and his hands are far from consistent.

Young or Cobb would be far better prospects than Torrey Smith.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304088796' post='674194']
I'll second Reed if he makes it all the way to us, but I wouldn't touch Torrey Smith with a twenty foot pole. I doubt Smith makes it all the way to 58 though, anyways. Although I wouldn't be surprised, he's incredibly overrated.
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This. I'd be elated with Young, Cobb or Reed.

[gilgamesh]

I would really like someone like Ballard, Reed, Sheard, or Houston. My favorite WR left is probably Hankerson. He's probably the most likely guy that I listed to be there when we pick.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='gilgamesh' timestamp='1304096251' post='674340']
I would really like someone like Ballard, Reed, Sheard, or Houston. My favorite WR left is probably Hankerson. He's probably the most likely guy that I listed to be there when we pick.
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I like Ballard alot as well. I wouldn't mind picking him up if all the receivers and bigger name pass rushers were gone.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304095455' post='674324']
I'm not "judging based off numbers", I've watched quite a few Maryland games. I've watched Smith first hand and I'm not impressed. Quite a few of fans here aren't impressed. Smith has been discussed to death on this board, he's not as fast as people who love him claim him to be, he's not overly explosive, his routes are sloppy at worst and adequate at best, and his hands are far from consistent.

Young or Cobb would be far better prospects than Torrey Smith.
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Did you happen to catch the NC state game? Quality opponent and he took over that game. Titus Young is a product of Kellen Moore, a good opposite in Petit, and poor opponents. Torrey put up similar numbers in the ACC with worse QB play. Torrey has big play ability with great initial burst and a great second gear to get past the second level, then has a big enough frame to go up and get a jump ball, which is something Titus Young can't do. Not to mention, Torrey comes from an incredibly tough background, and practically raised his family and never has issues. Titus Young has been suspended multiple times for off the field issues.

We have Boldin and Mason, we need a big play guy, and Torrey is that guy if he's there.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='gilgamesh' timestamp='1304096251' post='674340']
I would really like someone like Ballard, Reed, Sheard, or Houston. My favorite WR left is probably Hankerson. He's probably the most likely guy that I listed to be there when we pick.
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Sheard is one of my deep dark favourites lol, plays with his hands well has pass rush and counter moves, anchors well but doesnt shed great in the run game.

Dude threw a guy through a window in a fight, and a year earlier saved a lady from a burning building. Sounds like the guys a sav....and I like it lol

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='heapitup247' timestamp='1304096692' post='674357']
Did you happen to catch the NC state game? Quality opponent and he took over that game. Titus Young is a product of Kellen Moore, a good opposite in Petit, and poor opponents. Torrey put up similar numbers in the ACC with worse QB play. Torrey has big play ability with great initial burst and a great second gear to get past the second level, then has a big enough frame to go up and get a jump ball, which is something Titus Young can't do. Not to mention, Torrey comes from an incredibly tough background, and practically raised his family and never has issues. Titus Young has been suspended multiple times for off the field issues.

We have Boldin and Mason, we need a big play guy, and Torrey is that guy if he's there.
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Torrey is not that guy, end of story. He's a possession receiver with slightly more speed, that's it. I find it very doubtful that he's going to get past any professional cornerback worth his salt on a regular basis. Smith catches more passes with his body than his hands, so please tell me how he's going to win a jump ball? He'd have to have an eight foot vertical jump to win a jump ball with his catching ability.

Young is [i]much[/i] more explosive and crafty getting off the line and shaking past defenders. Not to mention, his game time speed is better than Smith's. Young is more than capable of making some spectacular catches and breaking out big plays. He's more of the player that this team needs right now than an overrated, adequate at best, possession receiver.

Smith basically raised his family? He has good character? No one's questioning that, but that only goes so far for you. You need the talent, Young has more talent that the Ravens need than Smith. He's had some issues, so what? Smith has as well, and we've drafted him.

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304097220' post='674370']
Torrey is not that guy, end of story. He's a possession receiver with slightly more speed, that's it. I find it very doubtful that he's going to get past any professional cornerback worth his salt on a regular basis. Smith catches more passes with his body than his hands, so please tell me how he's going to win a jump ball? He'd have to have an eight foot vertical jump to win a jump ball with his catching ability.

Young is [i]much[/i] more explosive and crafty getting off the line and shaking past defenders. Not to mention, his game time speed is better than Smith's. Young is more than capable of making some spectacular catches and breaking out big plays. He's more of the player that this team needs right now than an overrated, adequate at best, possession receiver.

Smith basically raised his family? He has good character? No one's questioning that, but that only goes so far for you. You need the talent, Young has more talent that the Ravens need than Smith. He's had some issues, so what? Smith has as well, and we've drafted him.
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I agree 100%. Smith has incredible legs, and is a true yac threat...but unfortunately he lacks the pure talent and hands to be a real stand-out in the NFL.

Young on the other hand, is shiftier and capable of some truly amazing catches. Just watch his videos on youtube, the guy seems a little cocky, but he's an absolute BEAST.

Unless we can get a steal OT/DE in the 2nd, I pray we take young.

[AwakenTheDemon]

[quote name='Thepurplehaze' timestamp='1304100056' post='674433']
I agree 100%. Smith has incredible legs, and is a true yac threat...but unfortunately he lacks the pure talent and hands to be a real stand-out in the NFL.

Young on the other hand, is shiftier and capable of some truly amazing catches. Just watch his videos on youtube, the guy seems a little cocky, but he's an absolute BEAST.

Unless we can get a steal OT/DE in the 2nd, I pray we take young.
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Correct, Smith is much more of a YAC guy, making short slant, drags, what have you and gunning it down field. However, he doesn't have that deep threat ability. He's not crafty or strong enough to slip by attempts to jam him at the line and his routes are not good enough to help him get into the secondary.

Both men have committed their share of drops (before anyone tries to throw that argument into the equation), but when it comes to playmaking [i]deep threat[/i] ability, I'd much rather have Young lining up than Torrey.

[RoflDogs]

We have to take brooks reed or one of the receivers in the second

[Mount-Cody]

Brooks Reed Baby, who's with me!!!

[Perfekt]

I would go with Brooks Reed but I rather have Matthews honestly.

[Thepurplehaze]

[quote name='AwakenTheDemon' timestamp='1304100536' post='674444']
Correct, Smith is much more of a YAC guy, making short slant, drags, what have you and gunning it down field. However, he doesn't have that deep threat ability. He's not crafty or strong enough to slip by attempts to jam him at the line and his routes are not good enough to help him get into the secondary.

Both men have committed their share of drops (before anyone tries to throw that argument into the equation), but when it comes to playmaking [i]deep threat[/i] ability, I'd much rather have Young lining up than Torrey.
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Indeed.
And judging by the failure of the Stallworth project, wasting our 2nd pick on another fast, end-around guy with mediocre heads would be utterly ridiculous.

On the other hand, Smith seemed to impress everyone at the combine to put him as a 3-4 WR prospect. Perhaps he improved his route-running/catching? Either way, I don't want another free-agent WR... let's go with Young.

[Runnin Raven]

Don Banks projects us to take Rahim Moore (S) out of UCLA. Hmmm...didn't consider a safety. My gut wants either pass rusher or OL

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Perfekt' timestamp='1304101700' post='674471']
I would go with Brooks Reed but [b]I rather have Matthews honestly.[/b]
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The 2nd round would be too early for Matthews in my opinion.