Steve Smith To Bmore?

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1303934337' post='671589']
[size="4"][b]I'd much rather make a nice contract offer to Sidney Rice. And if they could do that AND draft Torrey Smith, they'd have the dread-head twins on the outside for Flacco to use![/b][/size]
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Sidney Rice will make a ton of money somewhere else, no matter how much I too would like to see him as a Raven.

I can't say the same for Torrey Smith, no matter how good the kid is as a person. Young, Hankerson and Cobb would be preferable in the second. We wouldn't touch him in the first.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='TreTheRaven' timestamp='1303926916' post='671518']
I think people need to realize who the Panthers have had at QB the last few seasons, as a possibility to why his stats have been declining. It's not like Clausen is a top elite QB in the NFL.

I think Rotoworld hit it right on the head with this comment:

"[i]If Smith does end up playing with a top-tier QB, he's a good bet to re-join the ranks of the fantasy elite. Any time he's had even an adequate passer, Smith has been one of the most unstoppable receivers in the game[/i]."

Give him Flacco, and I am more than positive ... things would happen.

One thing about Smith is, he certainly knows how to stretch the field. Something the Ravens do not have.
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His stats probably weren't helped by his quarterback, but it's not as though Cam Cameron's gameplan is likely to help him either. Just look at Boldin's stats last year or Donte Stallworth's two catches.

I'm not even sure that Clausen is the only problem. Look at Larry Fitz or Calvin Johnson (or Boldin's early years in Arizona), they don't let lousy qbs slow them down very much.

[ellicottraven]

Don't care about steve Smith. He is a Diva WR, except tiny!!!! LOL

[RL52TheGreatest]

Even though I'm a big fan of Steve Smith (especially since he helped me win some fantasy championships a few years back lol) I would rather not have another aging WR on the team. Time for the Ravens to get younger at WR and have some players that Flacco can grow with who aren't going to be gone in a few years.

[Guest deltaraven]

[quote name='Wacko4Zacko' timestamp='1303865348' post='671239']
Steve Smith from NYG, maybe, but Carolina? No
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Hes got an attitude and he always drops passes-not a good idea

[Ravens go hard]

teve smith would be a great addition to the team. but for our 4 round pick Cassey Matthews, He's one of the best pass rushers i seen in a long, lets go get'em.....

[FerrariFan87]

I'd love to see Smith in purple and black... Boldin, T. Smith and Steve Smith on the field at once? Pick your poison. Oh yeah and that old guy, D-mase.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1304131075' post='676290']
I'd love to see Smith in purple and black... Boldin, T. Smith and Steve Smith on the field at once? Pick your poison. Oh yeah and that old guy, D-mase.
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I pray that doesn't happen. The coaches would feel obligated to give Steve his targets and touches, like they were with Houshmandzadeh last season and that would come at the expense of Q, Rice, Heap, the young TEs, Torrey, Mason and David Reed.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1304133907' post='676396']
I pray that doesn't happen. The coaches would feel obligated to give Steve his targets and touches, like they were with Houshmandzadeh last season and that would come at the expense of Q, Rice, Heap, the young TEs, Torrey, Mason and David Reed.
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Smith only struggled because he didn't have a Qb. I'd argue Smith would immediately be the #2 on this team. It's not gonna happen anyway... So it doesn't matter.

[shawn ny]

With all of the Smiths on the team atm why not one more???

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1304135362' post='676438']
Smith only struggled because he didn't have a Qb. I'd argue Smith would immediately be the #2 on this team. It's not gonna happen anyway... So it doesn't matter.
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He actually dropped a good number of passes too.

Like you said though, it's not going to happen.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

I just got done watching NFL top 10 free agent busts of all time (haynesworth won go figure. On an NFL network now update they said CAR WR Steve Smith could come to the Ravens during FA. Would it bee good to grab him for a year or two like Housh or should this just be considered Idle chat. Bear in mind that it would be good to have a veteran speedster to teach torrey how to utilize his talents in route running, when to break routes off, film study on how to use his attributes to exploit weakness of different types of DB's, and hopefully he could instill that fire in his gut into torrey's but just lookin for some thoughts here.

[Gremraven]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1304867245' post='683595']
I just got done watching NFL top 10 free agent busts of all time (haynesworth won go figure. On an NFL network now update they said CAR WR Steve Smith could come to the Ravens during FA. Would it bee good to grab him for a year or two like Housh or should this just be considered Idle chat. Bear in mind that it would be good to have a veteran speedster to teach torrey how to utilize his talents in route running, when to break routes off, film study on how to use his attributes to exploit weakness of different types of DB's, and hopefully he could instill that fire in his gut into torrey's but just lookin for some thoughts here.
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We don't need more old WRs.Drafting two WRs shows that we plan to go young in that position.

[D-Rey]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1304867245' post='683595']
I just got done watching NFL top 10 free agent busts of all time (haynesworth won go figure. On an NFL network now update they said CAR WR Steve Smith could come to the Ravens during FA. Would it bee good to grab him for a year or two like Housh or should this just be considered Idle chat. Bear in mind that it would be good to have a veteran speedster to teach torrey how to utilize his talents in route running, when to break routes off, film study on how to use his attributes to exploit weakness of different types of DB's, and hopefully he could instill that fire in his gut into torrey's but just lookin for some thoughts here.
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I don't think we will. WR isn't a need for us. We have D-Mase, Q, Smith, Doss (who Ozzie said he thinks he will play from day 1.), and Reed. I think we have other things to worry about than another WR. Don't get me wrong though, I would love to have Steve Smith. I've always liked him, I just don't see it happening though.

[flynismo]

If Smith were to come here, he would immediately be our #2, and exactly what the FO wants - a lethal deep threat to compliment Boldin.That would be friggin' nasty.Is it going to happen? Who knows...Smith has gone public with the statement that the Ravens are one of the teams he wants to play for. So...we want that proven deep threat, And Smith wants to come here.From the business side of things, if we don't bring back Gaither, we may as well give that skrillah to Smith.Drafting two rookies is great, but we want to win now too, while we wait for them to develop.But the first time he sucker punches Foxworth, he's outta here!

[D-Rey]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1304872415' post='683635']
If Smith were to come here, he would immediately be our #2, and exactly what the FO wants - a lethal deep threat to compliment Boldin.That would be friggin' nasty.Is it going to happen? Who knows...Smith has gone public with the statement that the Ravens are one of the teams he wants to play for. So...we want that proven deep threat, And Smith wants to come here.From the business side of things, if we don't bring back Gaither, we may as well give that skrillah to Smith.Drafting two rookies is great, but we want to win now too, while we wait for them to develop.But the first time he sucker punches Foxworth, he's outta here!
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True, I would love Steve Smith here and let the others develop. I didn't know we were at the top of his list, seems like a common theme with some of these talented vets. Did he sucker punch one of his own corners, Foxy before, or something like that. Haven't heard anything about it.

[flynismo]

[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1304872842' post='683638']<br />True, I would love Steve Smith here and let the others develop. I didn't know we were at the top of his list, seems like a common theme with some of these talented vets. Did he sucker punch one of his own corners, Foxy before, or something like that. Haven't heard anything about it.<br />[/quote]


yeah, in fact I think he two pieced a couple of his teammates....the one I know for sure was the time he punched Ken Lucas in the eye on the field during TC

[SpeedKills]

I wouldn't hate it if he came here - that'd actually be great. But after we drafted two young WRs, I just don't think it'll happen. Torrey would probably fall to 4th WR, since I doubt Mase would let himself be outplayed by a rookie, and Doss would rarely see the field at all.

It'd be a nice luxury, but it's not something we absolutely NEED at the moment.

[Milton145]

He'd be just as good a fit here as Boldin is, maybe better, I love him as a player but no. IMO we'd be wasting money since WR isn't a need and he'd be effecting the time our young receivers get on the field. You can groom them all you want at practice, meetings, etc. but they won't know until they actually go out there and try to make things happen.

I love Smith but I would be pretty disappointed for our young guys if he came.

[flynismo]

[quote name='SpeedKills' timestamp='1304876989' post='683671']<br />I wouldn't hate it if he came here - that'd actually be great. But after we drafted two young WRs, I just don't think it'll happen. Torrey would probably fall to 4th WR, since I doubt Mase would let himself be outplayed by a rookie, and Doss would rarely see the field at all. <br /><br />It'd be a nice luxury, but it's not something we absolutely NEED at the moment.<br />[/quote]

if you consider a deep threat to be a need, then bringing in Steve Smith should be a high priority. Torrey Smith is a rookie, we cant count on him to be our deep threat.

[SpeedKills]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1304878508' post='683681']
if you consider a deep threat to be a need, then bringing in Steve Smith should be a high priority. Torrey Smith is a rookie, we cant count on him to be our deep threat.
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But I'm coming from our FO's point of view here. If you're them, you've already drafted who you think will be your deep threat of the future, so you want to groom him AND get him playing time. With Steve Smith, that doesn't happen.

[Bltravens]

Ya its time we let our young guys play. On the Dline, WR, TE we need to get these kids reps, thats the only way they'll actually be able to produce when theyre in their prime

[ed.s52]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1304878508' post='683681']
if you consider a deep threat to be a need, then bringing in Steve Smith should be a high priority. Torrey Smith is a rookie, we cant count on him to be our deep threat.
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This.

Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed if we didnt grab Smith, but considering the lack of QB play he's had he should only improve having Flacco.

And for everybody saying we should play Torrey Smith, remember there is no offseason, so he probably won't be ready, and I still think the dude is a little raw for the league although I love the return ability and worth ethic.

Instead of throwing all our eggs in one baskett (being Torrey Smith as our deep threat), getting a vet who can do the same thing likely better than Smith can and can tutor Smith would be amazing. We still have promising Youth at the position, but they just aren't being thrown in the spotlight right away.

Just because our rookies aren't being rushed on the field doesn't mean they can't be the future of the Franchise.

[wayne]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1304880752' post='683699']
This.

Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed if we didnt grab Smith, but considering the lack of QB play he's had he should only improve having Flacco.

And for everybody saying we should play Torrey Smith, remember there is no offseason, so he probably won't be ready, and I still think the dude is a little raw for the league although I love the return ability and worth ethic.

Instead of throwing all our eggs in one baskett (being Torrey Smith as our deep threat), getting a vet who can do the same thing likely better than Smith can and can tutor Smith would be amazing. We still have promising Youth at the position, but they just aren't being thrown in the spotlight right away.

Just because our rookies aren't being rushed on the field doesn't mean they can't be the future of the Franchise.
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Yea, but can Smith put his ego in check if he's not getting the amount of balls thrown to him as he expects? Thats the main issue with bringing in someone like that, can he check is ego.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1304881415' post='683703']
Yea, but can Smith put his ego in check if he's not getting the amount of balls thrown to him as he expects? Thats the main issue with bringing in someone like that, can he check is ego.
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He can't. I love the way Steve plays but he also goes into games with the biggest chip on his should and would more than likely fly off the handle if he didn't get his targets or catches in a tight game.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1304881415' post='683703']
Yea, but can Smith put his ego in check if he's not getting the amount of balls thrown to him as he expects? Thats the main issue with bringing in someone like that, can he check is ego.
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Personally I'm not sure, but he should know based on the teams he said he would like to go to (Chargers, Ravens) that the highest he will ever be on the depth chart is #2 with the strong possibility of being a #3. There is no way he starts above V-Jax or Q, and a good chance he is still behind Floydd or Mase (if he doesn't retire). Still, as a number 2, I doubt he doesn't get a good amount of balls.

And personally I don't see why many want to rush the rookies on the field. I'm pretty positive Steve Smith (who actually has experience in the league) will be better than Torrey Smith especially with no TC or OTA's NOW, as well as Tandon Doss.

And if he isn't, than Torrey will start ahead of him, but personally I don't think that will happen.

[Free Agent]

Torrey Smith is probably better than Steve Smith anyway.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

i just dont see how adding talent is a bad thing, he may be old however he is still talented. He is 31 so it is not like he is mase old and the two years left on his contract would give us a lot of time to develop our young receivers so when all of the vets decide to hang it up we have players who are ready to play the moment they leave so the transition is seamless and joes production never slides with a new system. While mase, Q, and possibly smith are still maing plays, it would almost be a perfect scenario, tandon doss = young Q, david reed= young mase, torrey smith = youn steve smith (possibly?, but it would be like joe never loses his targets.

[Romo Ravens]

Mason is the wildcard in this situation. If he retires, do we feel comfortable in having Smith or Doss as the number two? I know I would. It's worked for nearly every other team in the league. You throw guys into the fire to let them succeed. I'm tired of our youth riding the bench or playing on Special Teams. So since Mason is not going to retire, it means Steve Smith is not coming to Baltimore. It would just be a remix of last year if he did, and I want to see Smith, Doss and Reed on the field. If any of them don't play a single snap this season, something needs to be changed with the coaching staff when the season is over, and that includes the Head Coach for not stepping in

[flynismo]

Well honestly I think the only real issue here is $$. No one in their right minds would choose Torrey over Steve if their salary was the same. But that's not reality...reality is when you're a proven superstar like Steve Smith, you get paid like one. It's a matter of deciding whether having a deep threat to go along with all these other weapons is worth that kind of money (and sorry Torrey fans, Torrey is nowhere near a suitable alternative to Steve Smith. That's just insulting.)as for throwing these rookies on the field...I think you fellas are thinking wishfully. Other than Flacco, when was the last time we just threw a skill position out on the field as a starter? (well apparently Jimmy Smith, but that's a bit different...he's on a whole different planet than Torrey)