What Happens If Boller Wins A Ring?

[BloodRaven]

Hating on a player is the most distasteful thing for a fan to do. Kyle never asked for Billick to trade up for him and throw him to the dogs as a rookie trying to make it on a playoff caliber team. All Kyle Boller has done is give it his all and considering he had to carry the burden of the coaching staff and a porous O Line he's done well to stay upright. I actually admire his courage. I'm sure many of the Boller haters, if they would search their hearts, will find that they would like to have his courage.

Are you saying fans should never voice their disapproval of how someone plays because its "distasteful"?

What about the guys we cut because they dont play well enough? is that distasteful? of course not, Im sorry but this is a professional sport and the only acceptable outcome is success, its harsh but thats the reality of it.

Hypothetical: If I was stinking up some pro team for years and the fans hated me I would still be turning up to collect a fat paycheck with a big smile on my face.

[theFRANCHISE]

please, let's not make this another long, drawn-out thread about who we think should start at QB.

Let's just keep this exclusively on the topic of how people would feel about Kyle Boller if he were to win a Super Bowl as the starting QB for the Ravens.

What I said there. Please.

We had a good thing going there, for a while...

[K-Dog]

I'll revisit this thread in Febuary....

I have a hunch some twinkies will be eaten

[SickBoy]

I think Boller should be the starting quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens until he proves he can't be. He doesn't have to win the SuperBowl to keep the job over Joe Flacco. I honestly dont believe that the Baltimore Ravens have ever put Kyle in a position to succeed. I honestly expect Kyle to start the season and have a good year, But I also expect that somewhere along the line, we will need Troy Smith and Joe Flacco at some point this year.

[foreversunny23]

i wouldn't know how to react if Boller wins a ring. probably because i just don't see it happening. however, i will say that i would be happy for him if he did win. he has shown flashes of brilliance despite the piles of gut wrenching "hiccups" (i'll sugarcoat it). the comparisons to eli seem appropriate. i wouldn't be surprised if eli has a bad season and thus proving that he is still inconsistent. boller winning it all and flunking the next year would sum up his career of inconsistency.

[Ravenoid]

Are you saying fans should never voice their disapproval of how someone plays because its "distasteful"?

What about the guys we cut because they dont play well enough? is that distasteful? of course not, Im sorry but this is a professional sport and the only acceptable outcome is success, its harsh but thats the reality of it.

Hypothetical: If I was stinking up some pro team for years and the fans hated me I would still be turning up to collect a fat paycheck with a big smile on my face.

No I'm not saying that. Simply comment on what I said.

[berad]

I guess your creepy man crush on Boller won't allow you to see the TRUTH!

KYLE BOLLER is detrimental to every fan's health!!

If you haven't been filled with an insane amount of rage after watching 4 quarters of a kyle boller meltdown, to the point where you have to stop and ask yourself... "should I run Kyle Boller over with my truck for the better good of our football team??" then you will NEVER! understand my pain...

side note: If kyle Boller takes us to the superbowl and wins us a ring..i will be a very happy man, cuz that's the same day i sit on my toilet and **** out 3 golden eggs.

My "man crush"?

Not quite, pal. I'm just not going to overreact to Boller's poor play. Sure, he's not a consistent starter, but he's not the worst in the league. And I've never contemplating running him over with a truck. It is what it is. Take a chill-pill, dude.

[Bleeding Purple]

If Boller wins the super bowl it wont be because of him. When Dilfer won the Raven's defense and special teams was winning games. So unless Boller actually does something productive and consistant then my mind wont change of him. I will hate him. But for the record i think that the ravens organization should formally apologize to Dilfer for thinking he was replaceable and not resigning him.

Why does it matter if one player is directly responsible for winning the game? Dilfer never did anything spectacular, yet we won the Super Bowl. That's all that matters. If Boller can do enough to "not lose", it leads to the same result as if he won the game. Either way, we win. That's all that matters. Now that I think about, I'd rather one player not be responsible for the win, as that means we have a great team, not just a great player.

By the way,

For those of you that don't have the incredible memory that I do, while watching that game on television one of the commentators clearly explained that Boller pulled that throw because someone walked in front of him. If you watch, you can even see someone's feet. Quit taking things out of context.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

If Boller can do enough to "not lose", it leads to the same result as if he won the game. Either way, we win.

Wow, that has to be one of the most asinine statements I have heard in a long time, no offense. I respect your opinion but feel that you are completely wrong on this issue. That mentality was exactly why Brian Billick was fired. He played not to win, but to not lose. That's the work ethic of LOSERS. I'm not terribly fond of any of our QB's. Boller has proven to be inconsistent in the past, I don't think Smith can get it done, and Flacco is unproven. I hope I'm wrong on all 3 accounts because I WANT TO WIN, not to not lose.

I think we have/have had the potential to be a better defense than the 2000 squad. We just haven't had the efficiency at quarterback to keep them off the field and rested......yet.

I think the Ravens were right in pursuing other quarterbacks following the SB 35 victory, but I thought it was bad business to let Dilfer go. At least keep him as a backup, an insurance policy.

[Ravens_Pwn12]

Could you please try to answer the question objectively?

How would you feel about Kyle Boller IF he won a Super Bowl as the starting QB for the Ravens?

Sorry

I feel that if he WON a SB for the ravens he would not live up to the what we would expect him to be for the next season. I could also seeing him being a one shot wonder in other words.

[berad]

you just dont get it

I'm sorry. There are a lot of fish in the sea, one day you'll get over what Kyle did to you.

[berad]

Sorry

I feel that if he WON a SB for the ravens he would not live up to the what we would expect him to be for the next season. I could also seeing him being a one shot wonder in other words.

That's a good point. Eli's had a fairly inconsistent past and now, after winning it all with a great postseason run, he has expectations piled sky-high on his back. Also, being in New York doesn't help his situation, the media will add tons of pressure.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

I'm sorry. There are a lot of fish in the sea, one day you'll get over what Kyle did to you.

Werd

If you honestly feel that Kyle Boller has hurt you personally, than you have more problems than one. I am just as passionate about the Ravens as the next guy, but get a life man!

[berad]

Werd

If you honestly feel that Kyle Boller has hurt you personally, than you have more problems than one. I am just as passionate about the Ravens as the next guy, but get a life man!

That's what I'm saying!

Hear, Hear!

[wun22]

That's what I'm saying!

Hear, Hear!

u sir have a man crush

[wun22]

and for the record, I never said Boller has done anything 'personal' to me..I said he has personally (as in the one being at fault) let tons of Ravens fans down.

Yes, when the Ravens lose, it basically mucks up my day, do i feel 'personally offended' by any player, of course not, thats just silly...

Me saying Boller has personally let alot of us down means just that. As in he in personally is at fault

you're refusal to acknowledge that is just ridiculous

[catty112]

I don't know about you guys but it seems to me that whenever the Ravens win on Sunday the next week is always a good week and when they lose it sucks! Same goes for how good they do that season for some reason affects how that year went for me. Last year, 5-11, horrible fall/winter for me... don't know if they're related but dayum

[die_hard_raven]

NOTE: This is a strictly HYPOTHETICAL question -- I'm simply playing devil's advocate to see what might happen. This is NOT a reflection of who will be the starter by the season opener, nor who I think will have the most success of the three QBs. Therefore, please DON'T make this a discussion about who you think the starter SHOULD be.

EDIT: I added a poll question above to go along with the topic.

Now that Kyle Boller has gotten the starting nod for Thursday's preseason opener against New England, I couldn't help but think back to all of his struggles and criticism during his time in Baltimore.

After reading about how Boller has had a tendency to play things safe in camp, I immediately thought of Trent Dilfer's approach to quarterbacking when he had taken the Ravens to the Super Bowl in 2000.

Although Boller and Dilfer are two different players, at the helm of two different Ravens squads, Dilfer's mistake-free play brought him success at Raymond James Stadium -- that same mistake-free play that Boller is hoping will do the same, should the Ravens make their return to Tampa.

Trent Dilfer was considered a hero in Baltimore after cementing the team in the annals of history.

My question is, if Kyle Boller does the same and brings home another Lombardi Trophy, will we hold him in the same regard as Dilfer?

Boller gets up a ring and Bush should be re-elected to another term in office. No way, no how!!!!

[die_hard_raven]

To be honest I would need to see more than a year of solid play to have a change of heart

[ROH522155]

To be honest I would need to see more than a year of solid play to have a change of heart

dude! its a super bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats all i need

[Purple Punishment]

I would instantly like Boller if he gives us a run to the Super Bowl. We drafted this guy, Brian threw him to the Wolves and lets be honest guys, our offensive scheme shouldnt have even been called a scheme. Wel lacked any real weapons, and when we did get them, we didnt have them together as one. Now we have a Cam Cameron offense, different from anything our players saw in the Brian Billick era, Lets see what Boller can accomplish in a real offense that can keep the defensive minds guessing. Im certain he will do well. Just think about it, How would any of you have performed in Brian Billicks offense???? I will give him this season to see if his play is different, then I will decide on if I like the guy or not

[smashmouth]

Boller gets up a ring and Bush should be re-elected to another term in office. No way, no how!!!!

Trent Dilfer did it.. Why couldent Boller, People gave Dilfer alot of credit for the superbowl, which He had a good amount to do with it but not nearly as much as the D did, Remember He played Mistake free football for the most part and thats why we did well. Kyle has been practicing that this year, and If it works out right maybe He can do what Dilfer did? I for one Hope Troy Smith will take a note and start doing Mistake free football, Then We would be set at QB IMO because of His ability to score and make big plays with not only His arm but with His feet also. Hope He looks at some film on Steve Young.

[RavensIQ]

You know what, this may seems kinda odd but if Boller threw over the top instead of throwing the football like a shot put, He might actually get more love. Don't ask me why but i bet fans would actually look at him as a real quarterback.

If he wasn't so hyper and he didn't have that goofy throwing motion it would be a lot easier to get behind him. But he doesn't look like the typical QB you would want to see running your teams offense, which makes it even harder when you see him throw 2 interceptions and fumble the ball in the same game.

I use to stand behind the guy like he was gonna be the next best thing. I use to argue my friends to the point of verbal shouting but after the Denver game in 2005...I couldnt do it anymore. Does anybody remember that last god awful game of 05' against the browns?

How can people really defend Boller? I mean a 6 page thread on Hypothetically what if Boller wins a superbowl? Whats the next thread gonna be about? What if Ed Reed quits the team to push carts at walmart? How would you "feel" about him?

There is a reason why the Locker room has been divided for the last several years...

[Sub-Zero]

I think it's possible he could be held in an even higher regard than Dilfer, depending on how the Super Bowl goes down. If he completely dominates and/or leads the team to a game winning drive, he will become an instant legend and people will always remember him for it. The way Mike Jones is remembered for making the tackle on Kevin Dyson one yard short of the endzone, or the way Eli Manning led the Giants to the most memorable game winning drive.

[theFRANCHISE]

How can people really defend Boller? I mean a 6 page thread on Hypothetically what if Boller wins a superbowl? Whats the next thread gonna be about? What if Ed Reed quits the team to push carts at walmart? How would you "feel" about him?

*sigh* It's NOT a thread defending Boller.

It didn't even resemble a pro-Boller thread until the QB conversation/argument started again...but, I guess people didn't disappoint me in that regard, as well.

[rickster]

NOTE: This is a strictly HYPOTHETICAL question -- I'm simply playing devil's advocate to see what might happen. This is NOT a reflection of who will be the starter by the season opener, nor who I think will have the most success of the three QBs. Therefore, please DON'T make this a discussion about who you think the starter SHOULD be.

EDIT: I added a poll question above to go along with the topic.

Now that Kyle Boller has gotten the starting nod for Thursday's preseason opener against New England, I couldn't help but think back to all of his struggles and criticism during his time in Baltimore.

After reading about how Boller has had a tendency to play things safe in camp, I immediately thought of Trent Dilfer's approach to quarterbacking when he had taken the Ravens to the Super Bowl in 2000.

Although Boller and Dilfer are two different players, at the helm of two different Ravens squads, Dilfer's mistake-free play brought him success at Raymond James Stadium -- that same mistake-free play that Boller is hoping will do the same, should the Ravens make their return to Tampa.

Trent Dilfer was considered a hero in Baltimore after cementing the team in the annals of history.

My question is, if Kyle Boller does the same and brings home another Lombardi Trophy, will we hold him in the same regard as Dilfer?

First of all, trent didn't get us a ring. It was the mighty defence that got us a ring.And Trent wasn't all that mistake free. I remember the d pulling him out of quite a few jams he put us in .

[rickster]

I think it's possible he could be held in an even higher regard than Dilfer, depending on how the Super Bowl goes down. If he completely dominates and/or leads the team to a game winning drive, he will become an instant legend and people will always remember him for it. The way Mike Jones is remembered for making the tackle on Kevin Dyson one yard short of the endzone, or the way Eli Manning led the Giants to the most memorable game winning drive.

I do agree.

[rickster]

Hey,

I think Boiler has come along way. You guy's just don't undestand that he's

not a pocket QB. The guy is use to rolling out. Until he get an O scheme that allows him to

roll out, he's not going to be good to any body.

[rickster]

Players has to use to thier strenths and full abilities or it just dosn't work.

[theFRANCHISE]

Just a friendly warning, rickster, could you please cut down on the multiple back-to-back posts?

As a general rule, if you have something to add but you still have the most recent post in the thread, you should just edit the last post to include whatever else you need to add.