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We Need To Destroy New England!

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I know it's just a preseason game but we need to destroy these guys. im still very mad about what went down on December 3rd, 2007. Everybody who saw the game knows we should of won the game. Even the Patriots fans they just dont want to admit it. I really hope we go out there and play hard. Lets put an end to their path to preseason perfection!!!!!

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I know it's just a preseason game but we need to destroy these guys. im still very mad about what went down on December 3rd, 2007. Everybody who saw the game knows we should of won the game. Even the Patriots fans they just dont want to admit it. I really hope we go out there and play hard. Lets put an end to their path to preseason perfection!!!!!

HELLYEA!lol

but yea...the refs called a BS holding call when we stopped them on 4th down and gave them a catch that shouldnt have been one to win the game

RAVENS 24 PATRIOTS 20 shouldve been the final score

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HELLYEA!lol

but yea...the refs called a BS holding call when we stopped them on 4th down and gave them a catch that shouldnt have been one to win the game

RAVENS 24 PATRIOTS 20 shouldve been the final score

yep no doubt about it

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It really comes down to depth , which I think the ravens prob have a slight advantage. I can't wait to see them actually play and see how the team looks in real game action.

Ravens 24

Pats 17

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To be honest, I don't care what the scoreboard looks like until September 7th as you always have to take the preseason games with a grain of salt. Especially with all the injuries, etc. That being said, I can't wait to watch some of the younger guys and see how they play. I expect Antwaan Barnes to play like a monster as he did last preseason. I am really looking forward to seeing Smith and Flacco as well. I want to see Justin Harper really gel with either of them.

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To be honest, I don't care what the scoreboard looks like until September 7th as you always have to take the preseason games with a grain of salt. Especially with all the injuries, etc. That being said, I can't wait to watch some of the younger guys and see how they play. I expect Antwaan Barnes to play like a monster as he did last preseason. I am really looking forward to seeing Smith and Flacco as well. I want to see Justin Harper really gel with either of them.

well yea im excited to see the younger guys play too but i also want new england to pay. and i want the bragging rights over pats fans that i should of had 8 months ago

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To be honest, I don't care what the scoreboard looks like until September 7th

Totally agree.

And, the holding call was a bad call, and I've seen catches like that (GW TD catch)ruled incomplete, sure. But it wasn't calls that lost the game. As usual, it was our offense. We couldn't get a freaking' 1st down to save our lives late in the 4th. It was Boller's pick, and then the 3 straight 3-and-outs after the go ahead score that cost us the game. Not the refs.

Bad calls happen. If we had played better on offense in the 4th quarter, gotten a few first downs and ran some clock off then no call could've hurt us. I was upset too, but blaming refs is for noobs.

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Totally agree.

And, the holding call was a bad call, and I've seen catches like that (GW TD catch)ruled incomplete, sure. But it wasn't calls that lost the game. As usual, it was our offense. We couldn't get a freaking' 1st down to save our lives late in the 4th. It was Boller's pick, and then the 3 straight 3-and-outs after the go ahead score that cost us the game. Not the refs.

Bad calls happen. If we had played better on offense in the 4th quarter, gotten a few first downs and ran some clock off then no call could've hurt us. I was upset too, but blaming refs is for noobs.

dude i swear to god the refs were on the pats side the WHOLE season. it was planned for them to go undefeated. Goodell was in on it too. why do u think he destroyed the tapes? he's on their side. and i dont know what happened in the super bowl and why they lost but maybe it was to set them up for another great season this year that DOES end up in perfection. or maybe because its the super bowl and everyone in the country watches it. and look at there scheudle its the easiest thing ive ever seen.

heres all the bad calls that i can remember:

a block in the back that was not called- bart scott was about to tackle lawrence maroney but was pushed down by the back and that set up a long run for maroney

the timeout that gave new england their second chance- defensive coordinator cant call timeout

false start on new england- not really a bad call but i still think its bs that a penalty on a team actually helps them. (it helped em win the game too) that gave new england their 3rd chance

holding i belive was the call in the end zone atthe end and there was a little contact but it didnt effect the reciever or the play and if you watch the replay the flag comes out when the ball hits the ground. that gave new england their fourth chance

the td "catch" by gaffney- he clearly bobbled the ball

and if you watch the season finale game against the giants when the gmen had em on the ropes up by 12 i believe all the calls were going to new england.

basically in all the games where the pats were up against the ropes they got all the calls except in the super bowl because thats the big game that everyone in the country watches

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well yea im excited to see the younger guys play too but i also want new england to pay. and i want the bragging rights over pats fans that i should of had 8 months ago

Let last season be last season. Sure, there were some crappy calls, but the bottom line is we didn't put enough points on the board.

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heres all the bad calls that i can remember:

a block in the back that was not called- bart scott was about to tackle lawrence maroney but was pushed down by the back and that set up a long run for maroney

That actually was the biggest bad call of the game, because it was blatant. That play went for 50 yards and they scored on the drive. I went insane.

the timeout that gave new england their second chance- defensive coordinator cant call timeout

Don't blame the ref for that, Billick was calling it too, and it's not a bad call by the refs, Rex Ryan is not allowed to scream timeout in the linesmen ear like that. The only bad call there was the decision to call timeout.

holding i belive was the call in the end zone atthe end and there was a little contact but it didnt effect the reciever or the play and if you watch the replay the flag comes out when the ball hits the ground. that gave new england their fourth chance

I didn't think that call was late. Of course the flag came out when the ball hit the ground, most flags thrown by the backjudge come out after the play is over, that's football. And it was a picky call, especially for the situation, but you can't touch receivers like that, it is against the rules. I don't know how else to justify it.

the td "catch" by gaffney- he clearly bobbled the ball

The play was reviewed. NFL officials said the had had possession. I want to disagree. Like I said before, I've seen those get called incomplete. It's another tough one, but I wouldn't call it a blown call. The only blown call was the missed block in the back on Scott. That actually did really hurt us.

But even then, with all of the things you listed, the fact remains that if we could've gotten 1 first down on any of the 3 of our last possessions we could've run the clock out, and we couldn't do it. We couldn't get a yard. The offense blew the game. As a diehard Ravens, since 1997, the most embarrassing thing ever was listening to our guys blame the refs for 2 days on the internet and on Sportscenter. Clearly the frustrations of the losing streak had set in, and the guys lost their heads. I am not ashamed of them, or us, or anything. I just come from the school of thought that you never, under any circumstances blame the refs for a loss. You never blame anyone else for a loss. If we were winning by 20 none of it would've mattered. We can only control us, and how we play. And if we had played better on offense in the 4th quarter none of these calls would've hurt us. That's just how I feel about it.

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i too wish we could have played new england in the regular season. it is a preseason game so even if we do win, the win will feel kinda empty. no use going all out this game (although some of the rookies should go all out because it's make or break for them!)

i wonder how far bart scott can throw that yellow flag... :P

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I am not ashamed of them, or us, or anything. I just come from the school of thought that you never, under any circumstances blame the refs for a loss. You never blame anyone else for a loss. If we were winning by 20 none of it would've mattered. We can only control us, and how we play.

I wholeheartedly agree. What happened, happened -- and nothing can change that. Only the team can make its own destiny.

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Beating the Pats in the Pre-season means nothing to me! It does not count towards anything. Beating up on the Pats in the reg. season meant a lot, it would meant a Hell of alot more if we had won the game but we did not. We played that game hard. I believe the Raven's showed the NFL how to play the Pat's and that is to attack and play very physical. But pre-season game are used to evaluate the talent of your new player, Offensive and Defensive schemes that is it. :mellow::huh:

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We definitely showed the NFL how to beat the patriots but, i think there defense is going to be soft this year...im more interested in who starts at QB for us....and i am praying that the name on the back of the jersey doesn't start with a B!!!

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I believe the Raven's showed the NFL how to play the Pat's and that is to attack and play very physical.

I couldn't agree more. Any quarterback, especially the likes of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning will pick you apart if you give them time to do so, even with the best coverage. But have you ever noticed how rattled Peyton gets when he's constantly rushed and being hit?!?! He almost falls apart. Tom is a little more collected in my opinion, but still plays down when he is being pressured, as evident in our meeting. The key to stopping those two dominant quarterbacks is to get after them. I mean REALLY get after them. They've gotta HATE playing us. True, they have beaten us but it surely wasn't easy. That is, until the defense gets tired from constantly being on the field because the offense can't move the ball. Let's hope the other side of the ball does their part this year. I've been saying for years that if we had just an above average offense, nothing spectacular, we would've had a couple more rings by now.

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Im gonna focus on If Haruki can pick tom brady off or even they guy behing brady cause he's good too.

I wanna see Mark Clayton silence all you nay sayers out there, along w/ Wheelwright to see if he's good too

Troy Smith.

Special Teams Duo of Gary and Brandon.

Ray Rice.

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WBAL and Masn are showing it with replay 3 times on NFLN.

at Patriots: Thu, Aug 7

Gillette Stadium

Foxborough, Massachusetts

7:30 PM WBAL-TV - MASN - WBAL 1090AM

Schedule NFLN

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i know i should let last season be last season but i just cant let that one go. it would of been one of the biggest upsets ever and people wouldve actually started to respect the ravens. if we lost fair and square then id let it go but thats not what happened. something about that game just wasnt right. it seemed like the refs wanted them to win and they did. Cmac said it himself afterwards. and why did the refs have to disrespect our players so badly? was that really necessary? and not one of em was suspended or fined or anything.

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people wouldve actually started to respect the ravens.

Never gonna happen. Baltimore doesn't get positive press for anything. We get credit for nothing. Which is why, at least in my opinion, our defense plays the way it does. Year after year the only people who expect anything out of the team are it's fans. Very few announcers/analysts talk positively about the Ravens. And you know what? I kind of like it that way.

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. I am not ashamed of them, or us, or anything. I just come from the school of thought that you never, under any circumstances blame the refs for a loss. You never blame anyone else for a loss. If we were winning by 20 none of it would've mattered. We can only control us, and how we play. And if we had played better on offense in the 4th quarter none of these calls would've hurt us. That's just how I feel about it.
I wholeheartedly agree. What happened, happened -- and nothing can change that. Only the team can make its own destiny.

I guess I kind of agree. I mean, the refs kind of run the show. They're the bosses. And when they want to back you up, they back you up. And if they're playin' dirty they might do it for no good reason. I know there is no proof that the refs were making calls for NE but it's not as if there was no motive. Seriously, woldn't you want to be a referee making calls for a historic perfect season? But again, no proof. Then again, if the Ravens players had played a perfect game and made it impossible for the refs to call them than I guess it would've been a different story......

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Seriously, woldn't you want to be a referee making calls for a historic perfect season?

No, because then, you could end up being investigated like that NBA ref, Tim Donaghy, and end up with 15 months in federal prison like him.

Although intentionally-unbalanced officiating is strictly a league-punishable offense, the FBI can step in if they believe it has anything to do with fraud or conspiracy.

Plus, being deceptive in ANY sports organization is literally hazardous to your health -- just look at what people did to Rich Rodriguez's family, making threatening phone calls and harassing his family, after the paper trail controversy upon his departure from West Virginia.

Even just plain being BAD at your job in sports is dangerous -- look at how Tommy Maddox's family was harassed and abused after an ugly performance in a loss to Jacksonville in 2005. (Please, no Pittsburgh jokes)

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after what happened last year, we need to come out strong and stick it to the patriots...regardless of who is playing...first, second, or third string. we need to punish them!!! :angry:

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