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[color="#0000FF"][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/08/tiki-barber-plans-to-end-his-retirement/"]Wow[/url][/color]... he must have been plenty jealous when the Giants got a SB win the year after he retired. I, for one, found it hilarious - especially after he spent all that time bashing his former team.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1299613328' post='650454']
[color="#0000ff"][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/08/tiki-barber-plans-to-end-his-retirement/"]Wow[/url][/color]... he must have been plenty jealous when the Giants got a SB win the year after he retired. I, for one, found it hilarious - especially after he spent all that time bashing his former team.
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The funny thing is, I think he has a good chance of becoming a Raven.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299613873' post='650460']
The funny thing is, I think he has a good chance of becoming a Raven.
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God, I hope not.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1299614022' post='650461']
God, I hope not.
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He was better on his worst day than McGahee on his best.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299614107' post='650462']
He was better on his worst day than McGahee on his best.
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Maybe so, but he's going on 36. I don't know too many players that can take a 5-year hiatus from football, especially at that position, and come back to actually contribute. Deion Sanders is the only one that comes to mind, and he was a corner.

That said, though, it's not his ability that makes me not what him - it's his mouth and his personality. He's a passive-aggressive malcontent and I don't think it's merely coincidence that the Giants won a Super Bowl without Barber [i](and Shockey, for that matter)[/i] on the field.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1299614344' post='650466']
Maybe so, but he's going on 36. I don't know too many players that can take a 5-year hiatus from football, especially at that position, and come back to actually contribute. Deion Sanders is the only one that comes to mind, and he was a corner.

That said, though, it's not his ability that makes me not what him - it's his mouth. He's a passive-aggressive malcontent and I don't think it's merely coincidence that the Giants won a Super Bowl without Barber [i](and Shockey, for that matter)[/i] on the field.
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Remains to be seen, but it's not impossible. If anyone can do it, Tiki Barber can. Personally, I like him (met him more than once and he is a very nice person). I shouldn't have to say a word about his play; he left as one of the best. But his antics in his last years and after he left were complete garbage by him. With all of that said, I think he could still contribute.
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[quote name='McBurks' timestamp='1299616319' post='650504']
He'll be lucky to make a practice squad.
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Please tell me you're joking. And if you're not, then kindly back that statement up.
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That's what happens when you can't keep it wrapped up!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/08/tiki-barber-unretires/

Thinking with the wrong head will do you in every time. After what happened with NBC I doubt he ever finds a decent paying TV job again and the chances of him making enough to cover his divorce, child support, (4 tiki's) and be able to live a comfortable life aren't very likely.

His best bet is to train like he never did in his entire career before or after, get on a team with a good O-Line and just blow it up. Chances are slim but hey, sometimes the most motivated player is a broke one, no place for him to go but up (maybe).
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[quote name='McBurks' timestamp='1299616319' post='650504']
He'll be lucky to make a practice squad.
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Barber couldn't make the PS even if he wanted to. It's only for rookie-third year players, I believe.

He's probably a lot better of a player than that, anyways. He can probably be a good 3rd down back in the NFL and, depending on how well he's kept in shape, could handle ~100 carries. Minnesota would be my early guess - they missed Chester Taylor. Maybe TB? He said Ronde made him want to play.

I know he hasn't made any friends in the NFL with his antics.

EDIT: Antonio Pierce slammed him on NFL Live.
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[quote name='die_hard_raven' timestamp='1299617208' post='650519']
That's what happens when you can't keep it wrapped up!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/08/tiki-barber-unretires/

Thinking with the wrong head will do you in every time. After what happened with NBC I doubt he ever finds a decent paying TV job again and the chances of him making enough to cover his divorce, child support, (4 tiki's) and be able to live a comfortable life aren't very likely.

His best bet is to train like he never did in his entire career before or after, get on a team with a good O-Line and just blow it up. Chances are slim but hey, sometimes the most motivated player is a broke one, no place for him to go but up (maybe).
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Wow, I didn't even realize this...

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In April 2010, Barber reportedly left his wife of 11 years, Ginny, for 23-year-old Traci Johnson, a former NBC intern. Ginny was eight months pregnant at the time. Soon after, NBC cited its morals clause and terminated Barber's contract[/quote]

Just wow. That said, I agree with you. I think his debt was a little more inspiring than Ronde. Fall from grace, indeed.
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I wonder who will kick his tires and give him workouts?

On a side note, since Tiki wants to play again, who says we should go try to get JO out of retirement to solve our LT issue?
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299613873' post='650460']
The funny thing is, I think he has a good chance of becoming a Raven.
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I'd take Portis over Tiki to tell you the truth. Portis can at least block and pick up blitzes (which we desperately need in a possible McGahee replacement). Tiki, meanwhile, hasn't even worn pads on an NFL field in over 4 years.
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[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1299620503' post='650571']
I'd take Portis over Tiki to tell you the truth. Portis can at least block and pick up blitzes (which we desperately need in a possible McGahee replacement). Tiki, meanwhile, hasn't even worn pads on an NFL field in over 4 years.
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I wish there were a way I could have the Ravens with Tiki play your Ravens with Portis. Portis is an overhyped numbskull. He couldn't hold Tiki Barber's jock. haha
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299614107' post='650462']
He was better on his worst day than McGahee on his best.
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Little rough.. Mcgahee pre-injury was absolutely insane.. Go back to his time at the u if need be..

With that said id still say tiki is the better back obviously and also the bigger [i]<jerk>[/i]... Sad what he did to his wife and now he's trying to make a comeback.. Prolly needs the mone.. I hope the giants cut him lol
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299620629' post='650574']
I wish there were a way I could have the Ravens with Tiki play your Ravens with Portis. Portis is an overhyped numbskull. He couldn't hold Tiki Barber's jock. haha
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Lol very true
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[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1299620632' post='650575']
Little rough.. Mcgahee pre-injury was absolutely insane.. Go back to his time at the u if need be..

With that said id still say tiki is the better back obviously and also the bigger [i]<jerk>[/i]... Sad what he did to his wife and now he's trying to make a comeback.. Prolly needs the mone.. I hope the giants cut him lol
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I'm sure it's more about money than anything too, but I also think he's had some regrets knowing he left for the wrong reasons.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299620713' post='650577']
I'm sure it's more about money than anything too, but I also think he's had some regrets knowing he left for the wrong reasons.
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agreed
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299620629' post='650574']
I wish there were a way I could have the Ravens with Tiki play your Ravens with Portis. Portis is an overhyped numbskull. [b]He couldn't hold Tiki Barber's jock. haha[/b][/quote]
If it were 2006 or even 2007, I'd agree with you hands down...
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299620629' post='650574']
[b]I wish there were a way I could have the Ravens with Tiki play your Ravens with Portis.[/b] Portis is an overhyped numbskull. He couldn't hold Tiki Barber's jock. haha
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[i]No one[/i] would be able to run the ball, except for possibly Rice
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[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1299621585' post='650590']
If it were 2006 or even 2007, I'd agree with you hands down...
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McGahee's never impressed me.

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1299621691' post='650592']
[i]No one[/i] would be able to run the ball, except for possibly Rice
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Rice is a younger, tougher runner. I wouldn't compare him to a 36 y/o Tiki Barber. However, I don't think Rice will last long enough to come close to Tiki's career numbers.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299620629' post='650574']
I wish there were a way I could have the Ravens with Tiki play your Ravens with Portis. Portis is an overhyped numbskull. He couldn't hold Tiki Barber's jock. haha
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How is Portis over-hyped? His buffoonery has actually overshadowed a stellar career. I've always admired how hard he ran and the tenacity with which he blocked.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299621838' post='650595']
McGahee's never impressed me.



Rice is a younger, tougher runner. I wouldn't compare him to a 36 y/o Tiki Barber. However, I don't think Rice will last long enough to come close to Tiki's career numbers.
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I didn't say anything about McGahee, although present day him vs. present day Tiki the edge goes to Willis. Same with present day Rice vs present day Tiki.
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[quote name='thewarden86' timestamp='1299621838' post='650595']
McGahee's never impressed me.



Rice is a younger, tougher runner. I wouldn't compare him to a 36 y/o Tiki Barber. However, [b]I don't think Rice will last long enough to come close to Tiki's career numbers.[/b]
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How come? It's not as if he's injury prone.
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[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1299622108' post='650598']
I didn't say anything about McGahee, although[b] present day him vs. present day Tiki the edge goes to Willis.[/b] Same with present day Rice vs present day Tiki.
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based on what???

Tiki left at the top of his game. Willis hasn't done squat IMO.

No one is comparing him to Rice. Tiki will be a back up/3rd down back. Rice is a starter, but you can say that about a lot of players: 25 year old this one > 35 year old that one. You're not really saying anything there. But at the same time, there are going to be exceptions.

Right now, I would put my $$ on 35 year old Tiki over Willis McGahee of any age.
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[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1299622269' post='650600']
How come? It's not as if he's injury prone.
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His yearly numbers and his running style. Plus our division. It's not mean to be a knock on him.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1299621916' post='650596']
How is Portis over-hyped? His buffoonery has actually overshadowed a stellar career. I've always admired how hard he ran and the tenacity with which he blocked.
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What has he EVER done in the NFL? Nothing.
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