Rumor: Ravens Likely To Cut Willis Mcgahee

[RLewis52]

Willis played his best as a Raven pretty much changing from a speed back to a power back, we could count on him for the short yardage, he will be missed, but if could use the money for players we need and we dont need willis really

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1299032226' post='647802']
That was directed at [b]PITCH52BLACK[/b], not anything you directly said.
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What was directed at me Blood? and why? where in this thread did you see me say that i "hate" McClain or McGahee? you missed the point bruh!

myself and a few others before my post was remembering when Le'Ron "tripped" over his own feet in open space. we were laughing and having fun over that! not saying that McClain is a poor runner or we need to release him.

[Shammy]

people also seem to forget when mcclain was running he had lorenzo neal making truck holes in defenses

[Bltravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1299032226' post='647802']
That was directed at PITCH52BLACK, not anything you directly said.



McClain isn't typical HB but neither was Jerome Bettis, you can count on one hand how many FB's in this league that can step up and carry the rock for a season.
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Jerome Bettis? Bettis just got nominated for the hall of fame, McClains not even close to that. I already stated McClain's unique versatility and abilities is a strength of his, just a strength that won't get used with the way Cam uses Rice. So having said that it makes no sense to sign McClain to a high salary when McClain himself wants to carry the ball and is going to command most likely one of the most expensive FB contracts in the NFL. My initial point was that McClain's running ability is over rated by alot of Ravens fans, he doesnt have the ability to be a feature back, or even a back who splits carries.

[ghost1986]

I'd much rather keep McClain than McGahee. I like both of them a lot. McGahee has done quite a bit for us here in Baltimore. The one thing I've noticed sometimes is he takes one or two extra stutter steps than he needs to instead of hitting the hole. But I can't argue with either. They're both great. But I really hope to see McClain back.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1299049773' post='647911']
Jerome Bettis? Bettis just got nominated for the hall of fame, McClains not even close to that. I already stated McClain's unique versatility and abilities is a strength of his, just a strength that won't get used with the way Cam uses Rice. So having said that it makes no sense to sign McClain to a high salary when McClain himself wants to carry the ball and is going to command most likely one of the most expensive FB contracts in the NFL. My initial point was that McClain's running ability is over rated by alot of Ravens fans, he doesnt have the ability to be a feature back, or even a back who splits carries.
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You missed the point, you said McClain isn't a natural HB, I said exceptions like Bettis exist and McClain has flashed that potential especially at the goalline (double digit scores in '08). Don't make out like I was comparing careers.

[pittman2052]

Cutting Willis McGahee would be one of the dumbest things the Ravens have done in a long time. He is very productive and if you look at the whole scheme of things, he is as valuable as Ray Rice. Ray Rice had one good year and this year was the start of his decline in my eyes. McGahee still makes big plays, scores more touchdowns on a per carry basis and can catch the ball as well as Rice. DO NOT LET HIM GO!!!

[-Truth-]

[quote name='pittman2052' timestamp='1299088049' post='648069']
Cutting Willis McGahee would be one of the dumbest things the Ravens have done in a long time. He is very productive and if you look at the whole scheme of things, he is as valuable as Ray Rice. Ray Rice had one good year and this year was the start of his decline in my eyes. McGahee still makes big plays, scores more touchdowns on a per carry basis and can catch the ball as well as Rice. DO NOT LET HIM GO!!!
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Oh, so apparently almost 1,800 yards doesn't constitute as a good year. Don't look now, but Rice might actually, "decline," to only 1,700 yards next Season. *Gasp* A back-up RB is just as valuable as the RB who's been in the Top 3 of all NFL players in yards from scrimmage for the last 2 years? Don't buy it. And did you honestly say that Rice doesn't catch the ball better than McGahee?

[Bltravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1299080975' post='647984']
You missed the point, you said McClain isn't a natural HB, I said exceptions like Bettis exist and McClain has flashed that potential especially at the goalline (double digit scores in '08). Don't make out like I was comparing careers.
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You just said it again though, "exceptiong like Bettis exist and McClain has flashed that potential", Im saying he doesn't have what Bettis did. McClain is 260 pounds and rarely runs people over. McGahee scored 14 in 09 at the goal line as well. I still don't think McClain is a natural runner and overpaying for his services wouldn't be a smart move.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1299091674' post='648094']
You just said it again though, "exceptiong like Bettis exist and McClain has flashed that potential", Im saying he doesn't have what Bettis did. McClain is 260 pounds and rarely runs people over. McGahee scored 14 in 09 at the goal line as well. I still don't think McClain is a natural runner and overpaying for his services wouldn't be a smart move.
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So? McGahee is a starting quality rusher and is as good as any at the goalline, I'm saying you can count on one hand how many FB's can take over during a season and score 10 times.

[berad]

Ozzie said no cuts were going to happen before March 2nd... It's the 2nd and it's still quiet out there.

[The Raven]

[quote name='pittman2052' timestamp='1299088049' post='648069']
Cutting Willis McGahee would be one of the dumbest things the Ravens have done in a long time. He is very productive and if you look at the whole scheme of things, he is as valuable as Ray Rice. Ray Rice had one good year and this year was the start of his decline in my eyes. McGahee still makes big plays, scores more touchdowns on a per carry basis and can catch the ball as well as Rice. DO NOT LET HIM GO!!!
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Whys that dumb? He's making 6.7 mil or somethin like that to be a BACK-UP. We get that he's good, but at the end of the day, its a business. Money is money. RB's are a dime in a dozen. He needs to take a pay check, or leave. Simple as that.

[scrock]

It's not that hard to find RB talent, meaning it's much harder to find a WR, or CB, etc. If we have to part ways with McGahee it's not the end of the world, I'm sure the Ravens can find another guy to step up.

[scrock]

[quote name='pittman2052' timestamp='1299088049' post='648069']
Cutting Willis McGahee would be one of the dumbest things the Ravens have done in a long time. He is very productive and if you look at the whole scheme of things, he is as valuable as Ray Rice. Ray Rice had one good year and this year was the start of his decline in my eyes. McGahee still makes big plays, scores more touchdowns on a per carry basis and can catch the ball as well as Rice. DO NOT LET HIM GO!!!
[/quote]

Wow, you are crazy!! Ray Rice wasn't the problem, he made yards that weren't there. The O-line was the issue...what star RB declines after 1 year? Give me a break, Rice is young and has many good years left.

You have a low football IQ..go away

[Bltravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1299105364' post='648277']
So? McGahee is a starting quality rusher and is as good as any at the goalline, I'm saying you can count on one hand how many FB's can take over during a season and score 10 times.
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Thats not what the initial argument was about. Initial argument was that McClain is not as good a runner as alot of Ravens fans think he is and paying him as a FB and the backup HB wouldnt be smart.

[BloodRaven]

McClain and McGahee are both touchdown machines when given the opportunity, if we let them both walk can Parmele replace that production?

[flynismo]

No one likes it, but McGahee HAS to go if he does not take a big pay cut. Biznaz as usual.Besides, how else are we going to squeeze Nnamdi and V Jax under the cap so that we can sign 'em ??

[berad]

Rosenhaus now says that Willis won't be back in Baltimore unless he gets every cent of his $6 million...

[color="#0000FF"][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/07/agent-confirms-that-willis-mcgahee-is-unlikely-to-take-pay-cut/"]LINK[/url][/color]

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“We don’t expect to be back unless they’ll pay him his contract,” McGahee’s agent Drew Rosenhaus said.[/quote]

Wow... So Drew must be pretty confident that Willis is worth that $6 million in a back-up role or McGahee can command a pretty decent contract on the open market. Add this to the list that defines my ire for Rosenhaus - I know he's doing his best for his client but making statements like this to the public does neither side any good. Now, Willis looks greedy and stubborn.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1299521928' post='649955']
Rosenhaus now says that Willis won't be back in Baltimore unless he gets every cent of his $6 million...

[color="#0000FF"][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/07/agent-confirms-that-willis-mcgahee-is-unlikely-to-take-pay-cut/"]LINK[/url][/color]



Wow... So Drew must be pretty confident that Willis is worth that $6 million in a back-up role or McGahee can command a pretty decent contract on the open market. Add this to the list that defines my ire for Rosenhaus - I know he's doing his best for his client but making statements like this to the public does neither side any good. Now, Willis looks greedy and stubborn.
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I was just about to post this. Thanks for your contributions but they are not paying you six million to be a backup. He's done here in Baltimore.

[Clutch Ravens]

Either find a new agent or find a new team.

Sorry, Willis but your agent is a leach.

[JO_75]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1299521928' post='649955']
Rosenhaus now says that Willis won't be back in Baltimore unless he gets every cent of his $6 million...

[color="#0000FF"][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/07/agent-confirms-that-willis-mcgahee-is-unlikely-to-take-pay-cut/"]LINK[/url][/color]



Wow... So Drew must be pretty confident that Willis is worth that $6 million in a back-up role or McGahee can command a pretty decent contract on the open market. Add this to the list that defines my ire for Rosenhaus - I know he's doing his best for his client but making statements like this to the public does neither side any good. Now, Willis looks greedy and stubborn.
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Hate to say it Drew but here are the real options for you:

1) Willis takes a Pay cut, is willing to stay on a team that gives him a chance to win a Super Bowl.

2) Refuses a Paycut, gets traded to a some other team, most likely isn't ready to win a Super Bowl.

3) Refuses Paycut, gets released and ends up like Willie Parker and a bunch of other aging RBs who just never get signed to a team again.

[Bltravens]

Rosenhaus is a clown if he thinks McGahee is going to get even 4 mil a year.

[757RavensFan]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1299528185' post='650007']
Rosenhaus is a clown if he thinks McGahee is going to get even 4 mil a year.
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I'd be shocked if they offered him anything over $3M for 2011.

[Shammy]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1299529723' post='650028']
I'd be shocked if they offered him anything over $3M for 2011.
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hes going around the corner to washington and will probably get 10 mil .. seriously though willis is a great asset but hes a great back up , and honestly a lot of his runs he just dances in the backfield for negative yardage .. but he does show up in big games and makes plays when needed but def not worth 6 mil hasnt even rushed for 1000 yds in 4 yrs even tho he has had limited carries but he has had his chances to prove he can still to be the feature back

[thomasbriggs3]

Again this the ravens m o when they owe you they cut you

[Bltravens]

Your damn right you get cut when your owed 6 mil for 150 snaps a year...its called managing the salary cap.

[BloodRaven]

That's $40,000 a carry assuming he get's 150 carries, it's more likely to be over the 100 mark.