Rumor: Ravens Likely To Cut Willis Mcgahee

[Bltravens]

I'd rather keep McGahee too but I don't think anybody didn't see this coming. 6 mil is waaaay to much for 100 carries in a season. I like Willis as much as anybody but unless he restructures its just not economically smart to keep him.

[berad]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1298358009' post='643461']
Depending on how confident we are in resigning him, why dont we just trade him for a pick?
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Not too many teams would trade for an RB going on 30 with a $6 million cap hit, especially one who hasn't really produced in about 3 years - not all his fault, just saying.

I think the Ravens would entertain trade offers but they'd prefer to restructure his deal or release and re-sign him. The latter being if there's the ever-mysterious ever-present "roster bonus" looming.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1298358638' post='643464']
Not too many teams would trade for an RB going on 30 with a $6 million cap hit, especially one who hasn't really produced in about 3 years - not all his fault, just saying.

I think the Ravens would entertain trade offers but they'd prefer to restructure his deal or release and re-sign him. The latter being if there's the ever-mysterious ever-present "roster bonus" looming.
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And I'm sure that there were offers available last Offseason. If we didn't pull the trigger then, I don't see it happening now. Besides, I doubt that any team would trade for a player who is likely to be released. They would just be giving up picks and/or personnel instead of simply waiting out the process and claiming him as a FA.

[ghost1986]

Are there any columnists/journalists in Baltimore that people here like? First I heard someone here say they didn't like Jamison Hensley and now someone's saying they don't like Mike Preston. Anyways, I'd be sad to see Willis go if this is indeed true(which I think it is) but at least he gave us a lot of positive production here in Baltimore. It's much more than he would have done for the Bills. I'll miss his flexing TD celebration the most.

[ed.s52]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1298359592' post='643470']
And I'm sure that there were offers available last Offseason. If we didn't pull the trigger then, I don't see it happening now. Besides, I doubt that any team would trade for a player who is likely to be released. They would just be giving up picks and/or personnel instead of simply waiting out the process and claiming him as a FA.
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Yes, but giving up a 5th or some small pick would seal the deal. If they let him hit the market, they risk the good chamce he will return to Baltimore with a restructured contract or go to another team that is interested. It all depends on the degree of which they want Willis, but if they want him enough giving up a 5th (which could very well be a player who doesnt even make the team) wouldn't be a bad idea.

The main variable in this case is how much we and the other teams in the league think he's worth. Both money-wise and draft pick-wise.

[berad]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1298359592' post='643470']
And I'm sure that there were offers available last Offseason. If we didn't pull the trigger then, I don't see it happening now. Besides, I doubt that any team would trade for a player who is likely to be released. They would just be giving up picks and/or personnel instead of simply waiting out the process and claiming him as a FA.
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Well, hypothetically, the reason a team would trade for an impending free agent would be to assure that they had the rights to that player instead of playing the free agency game and possibly getting into a bidding war with other teams. That's not really an issue, here, though - Willis' pricetag now is much bigger than any offer he'll get in FA.

[justifythegame]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1298338389' post='643247']
I don't think many OCs around the league can.
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No...plenty of OCs can, like the ones in NE, IND, DEN, SD, DAL, WAS, DET, GB, NO, ARI, SEA to name a FEW. Maybe you should watch some football before you post.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1298349208' post='643407']
Ok then, you cant pay a guy 6M dollars to play half the snaps when you have a young RB that is more productive and costs far less. Its not that I dont like Willis, but the team doesnt need him. I'd much rather spend that money elsewhere, bring back Le'Ron and give him 100 carries.
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The problem as I see it is Willis not being used. I could be wrong about this, but as per the NFL article [url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e694b6/article/ravens-likely-to-cut-ties-with-mcgahee-and-his-6m-2011-salary?module=HP_headlines"]here[/url], Willis wants more carries.

[quote]McGahee, who longs to be a starting tailback again, is not inclined to take less than his $6 million salary to stay behind Ray Rice.[/quote]

I'm guessing McGahee could be re-signed for less than 6 million if he gets a starting role.

[flynismo]

Like we didn't see this coming? Love me some Willis, hope we are able to bring him back at a lower cap hit.

[flynismo]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1298387766' post='643529']<br />No...plenty of OCs can, like the ones in NE, IND, DEN, SD, DAL, WAS, DET, GB, NO, ARI, SEA to name a FEW. Maybe you should watch some football before you post.<br />[/quote]


its easy to make passing the focal point of your offense when Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers and Romo are the QBs. And Sea, Was, Det and Ari offenses dont exactly strike fear into anyone's hearts, so they're not exactly great examples to make your point.

[BloodRaven]

His age is relative, everyone around the league knows he is 3 down playmaker with low tread on his tyres, he'll get snatched up because he can still be a primary back for 2-3 years or a split carries for 4.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1298387766' post='643529']
No...plenty of OCs can, like the ones in NE, IND, DEN, SD, DAL, WAS, DET, GB, NO, ARI, SEA to name a FEW. Maybe you should watch some football before you post.
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You initially said:

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Cam Cameron can't run an offense without competent RBs...
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I said that most OCs around the league can't and not only do you respond that way but you take a shot at me?

As fly said, six of those teams have the best QBs in the league taking snaps. Even still, those same teams have competent RBs playing for them. The other teams have decent RBs of their own but didn't exactly field top-ranked offenses last season.

Great argument dude...

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1298392477' post='643560']
You initially said:



I said that most OCs around the league can't and not only do you respond that way but you take a shot at me?

As fly said, six of those teams have the best QBs in the league taking snaps. Even still, those same teams have competent RBs playing for them. The other teams have decent RBs of their own but didn't exactly field top-ranked offenses last season.

Great argument dude...
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Not only that, but Ricky Williams wasn't even the back-up when Cameron was Miami's HC. He took 6 snaps all Season.

[blackfeather]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1298327772' post='643090']
If I was Willis I wouldn't come back. He could get more carries else where. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes and hopefully a chance to start....
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This is depressing....But its a money thing. I liked McGahee as well as I liked Ray Rice. I know That sounds
insane...but McGahee did extremely well when he got the carries.

[Militant X 1]

this will not be surprising if they let Willis go.

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1298358009' post='643461']
Depending on how confident we are in resigning him, why dont we just trade him for a pick?
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I'm sure we would if we could. However, $6 mil for a runningback like Willis is not going to have too many teams jumping at that one.

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1298387766' post='643529']
No...plenty of OCs can, like the ones in NE, IND, [b]DEN[/b], SD, DAL, [b]WAS, DET[/b], GB, NO, [b]ARI, SEA [/b]to name a FEW. Maybe you should watch some football before you post.
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[ed.s52]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1298387766' post='643529']
No...plenty of OCs can, like the ones in NE, IND, DEN, SD, DAL, WAS, DET, GB, NO, ARI, [b]SEA[/b] to name a FEW. Maybe you should watch some football before you post.
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Dude, were you even watching the Seahawk Saints playoff game.

Go to youtube, type in Marshawn Lynch True Meaning of Determination, and tell me he isn't a competent RB.

GET OFF ME.......... CHILD'S PLAY!!!!!!!!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDd5DPAGoCk[/media]

[dirtybird10]

quite the commentator that guy is. They have any room on MNF?

[Romo Ravens]

If, or when, McGahee is released, what kind of back do you guys want to compliment Rice? Should we make McClain into the rotational, change of pace RB, or should we release him as well?

I'm also interested in picking up a faster back, one with 4.30 speed to give opposing defenses different looks.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1298413727' post='643776']
If, or when, McGahee is released, what kind of back do you guys want to compliment Rice? Should we make McClain into the rotational, change of pace RB, or should we release him as well?

I'm also interested in picking up a faster back, one with 4.30 speed to give opposing defenses different looks.
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I'm not looking for a backup RB who specializes in anything; an all-around good RB would be nice. Curtis Steele flashed some skill in pre-season last season -- I wouldn't mind seeing him be the backup.

There are few RBs in the draft the Ravens could take a flier on late like Graig Cooper, Darren Evans or Allen Bradford.

Le'Ron is a good ball-carrier for a player his size but I'd like for the backup RB to be bit more versatile.

[ed.s52]

For me, if we were going for a three back tandem system (including McClain) and wanted to go beast mode with our run game, I'd have a couple of FA names in mind.

Ricky Williams (I know he is kind of old but in a limited carry system he could flourish)
Michael Bush
Pierre Thomas
Kevin Smith
Tim Hightower
Joseph Addai
Caddilac Williams
Mike Bell


I'd be really happy with any of these players, although not particularly excited with Bell. Our tandem would be insane. We could also go through the draft but if our pick busted we'd be stuck with it, although I'd love to have Michael Leshore or Daniel Thomas in our backfield. Otherstronger guys we could get later include Stevan Ridley, Alex Green, John Clay, Alenn Bradford, etc.

Although some scat backs like Noel Devine from WVU could be nice.

[Shammy]

bring back jamal ;P

[Token]

[quote name='ed.s52' timestamp='1298413055' post='643765']
Dude, were you even watching the Seahawk Saints playoff game.

Go to youtube, type in Marshawn Lynch True Meaning of Determination, and tell me he isn't a competent RB.

GET OFF ME.......... CHILD'S PLAY!!!!!!!!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDd5DPAGoCk[/media]
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One of my favorite videos on youtube tbh.

[Alexir]

For a back up role, I would be fine with Steele and Parmele.

[tonyg6996]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1298422234' post='643878']
For a back up role, I would be fine with Steele and Parmele.
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I would also, one thing learned from this year is that you don't have to be a superstar RB to succeed in the NFL. Arian Foster, James Starks, Peyton Hillis, Mike Tolbert etc. Now I'm not saying these 2 will be at that level, but it's not out of this world to say they could do it given the chance.

[bauer77]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1298387766' post='643529']
No...plenty of OCs can, like the ones in NE, IND, DEN, SD, DAL, WAS, DET, GB, NO, ARI, SEA to name a FEW. Maybe you should watch some football before you post.
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so wait you tell ER 20 he doesnt watch football, but then you say DeN, Det, Ari, and Sea are making due without a competant RB? lmao.

[DE_RavensFan]

[quote name='ravens rule' timestamp='1298327145' post='643081']
from Baltimore sun
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I saw that! McGahee is good by maybe with the lose change they can stiffen the line and pick a shutdown corner and number one scarry receiver. Just a thought. Willis will be missed..

[bpytnjr58]

Though i would hate to see him go he is an expensive part timer standing there waiting for third down.

[Alexir]

Apparently Parmele ran a 4.47 40 at combine....He looks wayyyyyyyyyyyy slower than that. Like a 7.44 40....

But I like his work ethic, and if he busts his butt this offseason, I would like to see him get 40% of RB carries. He could be a great bruiser.