Ravens Franchise Haloti Ngata

[Admin 3]

The Ravens officially assigned the franchise tag to two-time Pro Bowler Haloti Ngata on Tuesday, keeping him with the team and allowing both sides time to work on a long-term contract extension once a new collective bargaining agreement is in place.

"The tender allows us to secure Haloti as a Raven right now," stated General Manager Ozzie Newsome. "As we have said, our intention is to enter into a long-term contract with him. We want him to be a Raven."

Read the full article here: [b][url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/02/15/ngata-gets-the-franchise-tag-2/"]http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/02/15/ngata-gets-the-franchise-tag-2/[/url][/b]

[cursona pirate]

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The Ravens officially assigned the franchise tag to two-time Pro Bowler Haloti Ngata on Tuesday, keeping him with the team and allowing both sides time to work on a long-term contract extension once a new collective bargaining agreement is in place.

Read the full article here: [b][url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/02/15/ngata-gets-the-franchise-tag-2/"]http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/02/15/ngata-gets-the-franchise-tag-2/[/url][/b]
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yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

[20ravens52]

Get that Man locked up.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

I had to lol at the fact that the franchise tag for next season alone is worth about as much as his entire rookie contract. (If I'm correct)

No doubt the long term deal will be ironed out ASAP after the CBA.

[JO_75]

Just got the text message, this is great news!

How much you think we will have to pay him? How many years?

I say 6-8 Years for about $70 Million with $42 Million Guaranteed. Give him a 10 year contract for all I care, just make sure this is one of the last contracts he ever signs.

[Ngata92NT]

We need to keep him a Raven for LIFE. I hope that this will keep him a Raven for a longgg time.

[kagejb]

This is definitely great news.

[Romo Ravens]

You ain't going anywhere, Haloti.

[20ravens52]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1297805453' post='640357']
You ain't going anywhere, Haloti.
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Don't tell him what to do...

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='20ravens52' timestamp='1297805547' post='640358']
Don't tell him what to do...
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We're buddies

[JO_75]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1297805585' post='640359']
We're buddies
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lol even than I don't think Ngata wants to be told what to do.

Hopefully now that we have Franchised Ngata, we can start working on other players.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Completely expected and great move to keep him as a Raven.

[ghost1986]

Awesome

[FerrariFan87]

Yeah, this comes as no surprise... time for the NFLPA and NFL to get a deal done so we can lock up Haloti for the foreseeable future

[bpytnjr58]

Major relief!!!

[gabefergy]

It's quite possible that the Franchise Tag will mean nothing if there is no new CBA. However, I do like that the team is fully commited to Ngata. He deserves the raise for sure!

[AsianRice]

Greatest news so far in the offseason: locking up Kingkong Ngata

[PuRock]

Its a good move, but make sure you give the man his long term contract before the season starts. Lets not just tag him and let the season move on.

[JO_75]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297811595' post='640407']
Its a good move, but make sure you give the man his long term contract before the season starts. Lets not just tag him and let the season move on.
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Yes I agree, let's make sure we don't have to go the Suggs route and have to Franchise him twice before getting a long term agreement done.

P.S. Rex Ryan Dislikes this lol.

[ellicottraven]

Can someone please explain the difference between the tag applied to Manning vs Ngata? Based on my understanding, Ngata can still be signed by another team if they offered him ridiculous money that the Ravens were unwiling to match + 2 first round picks. How is Manning's different? Why did we not use the same type for Ngata? Thanks.

[PuRock]

[quote name='ellicottraven' timestamp='1297832321' post='640535']
Can someone please explain the difference between the tag applied to Manning vs Ngata? Based on my understanding, Ngata can still be signed by another team if they offered him ridiculous money that the Ravens were unwiling to match + 2 first round picks. How is Manning's different? Why did we not use the same type for Ngata? Thanks.
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I sort of answered your question in the news thread. But the answer could be many things.

I think the price difference might be a bit better if they don't sign him to the long term deal. But I think the Ravens are willing to match any offer another team might give him. But in the case where Ngata is demanding more than the team is willing to pay, and another team comes in and offers him something, they'd at least get two first rounders.

Which ofcourse for Ozzie would mean that he could trade back and make two first rounders into 6 additional picks.

I think the Colts fear that some team is going to give Manning an offer he can't refuse and be willing to give up two first rounders.

I don't think the Ravens are that worried about Ngata.

[B-more Ravor]

The difference between the 2 franchise tags is that the non-exclusive Tag which Ngata received does allow him to sign an offer sheet with another team, which the Ravens can either match or take 2 1st round picks. That Tag comes with a salary that is the average of the top 5 at that position as paid in 2010.

The exclusive tag with Manning got does not allow him to negotiation with other team or sign an offer sheet. It pays him the top 5 for the players at his position based on 2011 salaries. But, in Manning's case since he was already one of the highest paid last year, he gets 120% of his 2010 salary, since that is higher than the average of the top 5 salaries.

[FerrariFan87]

Ngata's great, but there's no way any team gives up 2 First Round picks for a DT, even one as talented as Haloti.

[justifythegame]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this mean some crazy team (like the ones owned by the Dan Snyders of the NFL) could give up their 2 first round draft picks and pay the man 100 mil? Franchising buys you more time but thats a risky move when you slap one on the best interior lineman in football. Even if I weren't a crazy team, i might give up the 2 first round picks for Ngata because he is young, and you can easily spend 2 first round picks on average players and never get an elite player let alone the best NT/DE in the game right now.

[PuRock]

[quote name='B-more Ravor' timestamp='1297834343' post='640550']
The exclusive tag with Manning got does not allow him to negotiation with other team or sign an offer sheet. It pays him the top 5 for the players at his position based on 2011 salaries. But, in Manning's case since he was already one of the highest paid last year, he gets 120% of his 2010 salary, since that is higher than the average of the top 5 salaries.
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Good point. So for Manning, in terms of costs it really doesn't matter if they slap him with the exclusive or Non-exclusive tag. Either way he'll get paid 120% on top of last years salary.

[PuRock]

[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1297862772' post='640575']
Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this mean some crazy team (like the ones owned by the Dan Snyders of the NFL) could give up their 2 first round draft picks and pay the man 100 mil? Franchising buys you more time but thats a risky move when you slap one on the best interior lineman in football. Even if I weren't a crazy team, i might give up the 2 first round picks for Ngata because he is young, and you can easily spend 2 first round picks on average players and never get an elite player let alone the best NT/DE in the game right now.
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I could see some team doing that for Manning or Brady. But I have a hard time believing that some team would be willing to give Ngata a 100M contract and 2 first round picks for him.

Even if some team is willing to give a huge contract which we are willing to meet. We still come away with two first round picks. Which like I said earlier could be turned into 6 picks which would greatly fill a lot of this teams needs. But I can't ever see it come to that.

[PuRock]

FYI, this is what the Tag cost is looking like:

[u][b]DT[/b][/u]
2010 - 7M
2011 Non- exclusive- 12.3M (Projected)
2011 Exclusive - TBD

The Jump from 2010 to 2011 was in thanks to Albert's contract and the fact that Richard Seymour was classified as a DT (and he had a pricey franchise tag).

The Exclusive is too hard to project because of the CBA, who re-signs, who has the Franchise Tag stick. If Seymour gets stuck with the Tag two years in a row, the Exclusive could go up.

But it just doesn't make sense because it seems like 2010 which was an uncapped year was sort of freakish for DT salaries. Haynesworth contract took full advantage of the uncapped year in 2010. It just seems to me that the the Exclusive Tag might come down a bit for DT.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297865898' post='640587']
I could see some team doing that for Manning or Brady. But I have a hard time believing that some team would be willing to give Ngata a 100M contract and 2 first round picks for him.

Even if some team is willing to give a huge contract which we are willing to meet. We still come away with two first round picks. Which like I said earlier could be turned into 6 picks which would greatly fill a lot of this teams needs. But I can't ever see it come to that.
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Yeah we would improve our overall team even if that was to happen. I doubt a team is willing to give all of that up just for Ngata, but there's positives on both sides that greatly come out in our favor.

[Proxzyn]

When I first saw it was a non-exclusive tag, it scared the beep out of me. But then it got me thinking.
What if this is a way of letting him "test" the market and see what kind of contract he can expect. If some team is crazy enough to offer him a contract, then he knows what he's worth, the FO knows what he's worth, and then we just match the contract and make him a Raven for life earlier than expected.

[ellicottraven]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297832867' post='640540']
I sort of answered your question in the news thread. But the answer could be many things.

I think the price difference might be a bit better if they don't sign him to the long term deal. But I think the Ravens are willing to match any offer another team might give him. But in the case where Ngata is demanding more than the team is willing to pay, and another team comes in and offers him something, they'd at least get two first rounders.

Which ofcourse for Ozzie would mean that he could trade back and make two first rounders into 6 additional picks.

I think the Colts fear that some team is going to give Manning an offer he can't refuse and be willing to give up two first rounders.

I don't think the Ravens are that worried about Ngata.
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Thank you PuRock! The clarificaton is apprciated...