Who Won't Be Back With The Ravens In 2011?

[Free Agent]

So, which Ravens do all of you think will not be with the Ravens in 2011?

Also, check out the article:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/604881-seven-players-that-wont-be-playing-for-the-baltimore-ravens-in-2011

[Alexir]

I agree with that list. Those players are most likely not going to be returning to Baltimore. Out of all of them ( I would love for Willis to stay but not if he isn't getting the ball. I want him to go to a team that will utilize his talents and stiff arms), I would love to keep Gaither to an incentive laden contract. And I would probably do an open competition for LT between him and Mike.

[Ravens Lover]

like the list just hope Gaither can stay, and hopefully we can get a second or third round pick for Mcgahee. He was awesome but 3 backs and keeping them all happy is tough, and he is more expendable than Mcclain is

[REEDPIXUOFF]

Along with the 7 already listed I'd add these 3.

Chris Chester- Someone will pay him more than the Ravens are willing to

Derrick Mason- Hopefully he retires but if he doesn't I doubt the Front office has the cajones to cut him

Kelly Gregg- The production isn't there anymore.

[Jamal]

The 2 players I want to see leave the most are Landry and Mason.

[T-ray]

I understand that Mason is old, but why do you all want to see him gone?? Sure, he isn't a very productive reciever anymore, but Flacco relies a ton on him when blitzes get going his way.

[PuRock]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1297474348' post='638412']
I understand that Mason is old, but why do you all want to see him gone?? Sure, he isn't a very productive reciever anymore, but Flacco relies a ton on him when blitzes get going his way.
[/quote]

Mason can still be productive. Big Fan. But its time we get some youth at WR. If Mason wants to come back, great. But the FO can't let it affect their decision to get some youth at WR. Coaching staff seems to rely upon the vets too much. So that's one of my concerns if Mason comes back.

[Jamal]

[quote name='T-ray' timestamp='1297474348' post='638412']
I understand that Mason is old, but why do you all want to see him gone?? Sure, he isn't a very productive reciever anymore, but Flacco relies a ton on him when blitzes get going his way.
[/quote]
I love Mason. Hes easily our franchises best WR. But its time to move on. (main reason being Cam)

Like PuRock said, we seem to rely way too much on vets. Its come to the point where vets are preventing us from seeing what we have on multiple positions. (David Reed, Art Jones)
Add that to the fact that Cam loves his 2 WR sets, and it spells doom for any young WR on the team.

[ravensfan2424]

I think mason is ok to leave once flacco gets used to having boldin to rely on. Flacco always needs one guy to fall back on and i think Boldin is trying to do that

[Free Agent]

[quote name='ravensfan2424' timestamp='1297475506' post='638433']
I think mason is ok to leave once flacco gets used to having boldin to rely on. Flacco always needs one guy to fall back on and i think Boldin is trying to do that
[/quote]

I agree. The only issue with Mason is Joe Flacco's dependence on him. Mason was Flacco's favorite receiver from Flacco's rookie season. Flacco needs to develop a trust with his other receivers and I think that would definitly happen if Mason retired.

[K-Dog]

Ugh. Keep Mase. No question. They cant double Bolden and Mase. He still has a fire in him. I would love to see him retire as a Raven. I would also disagree with the list for Housh. He was TOTALLY underutilized. Never got the chance he deserved. I also would like to keep McGehee but I fully understand the budget associated with that. If he accepts a pay cut and I cant imagine he would, I would keep him.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1297476938' post='638450']
Ugh. Keep Mase. No question. [b]They cant double Bolden and Mase[/b]. He still has a fire in him. I would love to see him retire as a Raven. [b]I would also disagree with the list for Housh. [b]He was TOTALLY underutilized[/b]. Never got the chance he deserved. I also would like to keep McGehee but I fully understand the budget associated with that. If he accepts a pay cut and I cant imagine he would, I would keep him.
[/quote]

That's the problem. Teams didn't need to double Q and Mason but could still take them out of the game in Cam's offense last season.

Houshmandzadeh was underutilized but so were a lot of players on the offense. The team needs youth at WR.

[ravensfan2424]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1297476938' post='638450']
Ugh. Keep Mase. No question. They cant double Bolden and Mase. He still has a fire in him. I would love to see him retire as a Raven. I would also disagree with the list for Housh. He was TOTALLY underutilized. Never got the chance he deserved. I also would like to keep McGehee but I fully understand the budget associated with that. If he accepts a pay cut and I cant imagine he would, I would keep him.
[/quote]

Dropped pass on fourth down against the steelers in the playoffs wasnt his chance?

[-Truth-]

I can live with every one of those departures except for Gaither.

[Blex64]

I seriously doubt we lose all of those players.

Gaither is obviously a big priority right now.

Washingtons gone, and won't really be missed.

McGahee is probably going to get traded to pay McClain.

Housh/Stallworth...we need to keep at least one of them. Ideally I'd like to see us keep both, but I doubt the FO will go for it if Mase returns. Were not exactly short on receivers, and we definitely have more pressing issues in the draft. The corps wasn't our offenses issue this season...

Bulger is almost definitely gone.

Landry I'm pretty indifferent about. He's not spectacular, but he's not bad either. We have more pressing needs then replacing him.

What worries me most is that soo much depends on who we resign and who we don't.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1297492777' post='638533']
McGahee is probably going to get traded to pay McClain.

Housh/Stallworth...we need to keep at least one of them. Ideally I'd like to see us keep both, but I doubt the FO will go for it if Mase returns. Were not exactly short on receivers, and we definitely have more pressing issues in the draft. The corps wasn't our offenses issue this season...
[/quote]

I just don't think Willis will be traded. He'd have to restructure his contract for that to happen. And if he's willing to take less money, why not stay with a contender.

I disagree the team needs to keep either T.J. or Donte'. I also disagree the WR corps wasn't part of the problem on offense. Playing-calling and execution were lacking but Boldin, Mason and Houshmandzadeh all had trouble separating throughout the season. Stallworth just wasn't used for whatever reason.

For me, if Mason returns, two aging WRs would be enough. I like Stallworth but he turns 31 this season and if the team intends to see what they have in Reed and even the young tight ends next season, bringing back both Houshmandzadeh and Stallworth wouldn't be wise.

[littleray27]

[quote name='Free Agent' timestamp='1297476055' post='638442']
I agree. The only issue with Mason is Joe Flacco's dependence on him. Mason was Flacco's favorite receiver from Flacco's rookie season. Flacco needs to develop a trust with his other receivers and I think that would definitly happen if Mason retired.
[/quote]

Mason was pretty much the only receiver Flacco had his rookie season, and on into Flaccos second season. The only wide out that Flacco could depend on for that fact of the matter.

[poedacrow]

Although I'd like to see Willis stay I'm okay with this list...just make sure that Fabian Washington is the first one bounced...

[Irish Girl]

The only person on that list that I'm fine with not playing is Bulger. Everyone else needs to stay, and I really hope they do because those were some pretty good players that we have chances of losing.

[Richmond_Raven]

Bye bye fabian

[tonyg6996]

I would honestly be alright with Housh and Stalls leaving, and I don't think Mason leaving would be the end of the world either. I still think Mason is a great player and would love to keep him in a reduced role, but I'm not sure how open he would be to that. Like others have said the main thing is we need youth at wide receiver, and (just like last year) Cam relies too much on the vets if we have them.

In my opinion having Boldin, a drafted wide receiver (my personal favorites are Titus Young and Torrey Smith, but I'm definitely open to a few others), David Reed, and James Hardy would be pretty solid. And if Mason wants to come back too, then he could definitely help. Not to mention Marcus Smith and Justin Harper as the back ups/special teamers.

[RavensWin2052]

Ngata and reed must stay i dont care for anyone else except maybe le`ron and housh

[Lefkowitz]

I have a feeling Willis wont be back. i think we signed McKie to be the FB and McClain to be the #2 back to McRice..

[letsgoflacco]

I agree with all of this. The person that I want to see back out of the list is definitely Gaither, but who knows what is going to happen there.

I would like to see Housh back, but honestly, he wants to start, and there are other teams who would start him. I haven't a clue whether Mason will be back... and I am sure no one will know for a while. I hope Mason being up in the air doesn't affect the way we draft. But I have faith in Ozzie.

And I'd love to see Torrey Smith as a Raven, gotta represent the Terps! haha.

[Shammy]

if mason retires ravens should try to get either stals or housh but if we happen to loose all three that could be a problem

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1297474986' post='638421']
Mason can still be productive. Big Fan. But its time we get some youth at WR. If Mason wants to come back, great. But the FO can't let it affect their decision to get some youth at WR. Coaching staff seems to rely upon the vets too much. So that's one of my concerns if Mason comes back.
[/quote]

I'd rather see Mason go as well. My main reasoning is that everybody knows who the number 2 guy is if Mason stays. He'll always be on the field, and Joe is "comfortable" with him. I actually think that hurts the passing game at times. We all know Boldin will be here for the next few years and will the the guy, but if the position of number 2 is unclear, I think it will force Joe to have to throw to more guys and evaluate the players he has around him. It's not because Mason is not still talented, but more because I think we need a serious turnover at the WR position if we are ever going to see Joe grow into elite status.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

I wonder looking at free agency and the draft if we can right the ship as far as WR and CB go I will be in disbelief. I think we should keep housh and gaither and trade willis (who still has value to a team like seattle who has no run game and some good picks.). When you look at the free agency for CB you have brent grimes, johnathan joseph, and carlos rogers, there are others but price is an issue. I think these guys can be attained for a reasonable price. We resign Josh wilson and cris carr, tell fabian thanks and leave. In the draft there is guys that we could get like brandon harris, jimmy smith, Ras -I Dowling, Aaron Williams. As far as WR the free agents that are attainable are, Jacoby jones, Mike Sims-Walker, Mike Williams, Steve Breastin, Malcolm Floyd. And in the Draft Leonard Hankerson, Titus Young, Torrey Smith, Johnathan Baldwin, and many more so this should be the year we can address everything people have been complaining about for years now.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Shammy' timestamp='1297631959' post='639131']
if mason retires ravens should try to get either stals or housh but if we happen to loose all three that could be a problem
[/quote]

Losing all three would be a good thing in my opinion. The complete absence of young talent that produced at the WR position last season was embarrassing. It'd be tough watching Mason go but his departure, along with Stallworth and Houshmandzadeh would be good for the team in the long run in my opinion.

@ArmyRavens52

If you want the team to re-sign Housh, why should they then look to FA [i]and[/i] draft someone? That would create another logjam at the position and the rookie, along with David Reed would be competing for snaps.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1297633271' post='639153']
Losing all three would be a good thing in my opinion. The complete absence of young talent that produced at the WR position last season was embarrassing. It'd be tough watching Mason go but his departure, along with Stallworth and Houshmandzadeh would be good for the team in the long run in my opinion.

@ArmyRavens52

If you want the team to re-sign Housh, why should they then look to FA [i]and[/i] draft someone? That would create another logjam at the position and the rookie, along with David Reed would be competing for snaps.
[/quote]

Ok good question, and stay with me for a minute. I know as a ravens fan our identity has always been power football, but I am sure most people are noticing that on offense it is changing a little bit. I would like to see more 3 or 4 wide reciever sets, preferably 4 but after watching the steelers packers game (and yeah I know we are not the packers) but when they spread the defense James starks was finding running lanes. And Starks is no ray rice so without that 8 guy in the box front that they do to us all the damn time ray rice would go off. And with that many recievers flacco is sure to find an open man, or rice out of the backfield. I think drafting one young wideout early and maybe a late round project we could have an extremely scary offense.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

And I am not saying get one from both but if we locked up a free agent WR that is young and has potential then we could focus on corner and tackle. If we get a free agent CB then we could go WR. It alleviates a lot of the headache if we just study the free agency, maybe mcgahee to seattle for Mike williams.